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Screenshots of Windows 11 have leaked.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/15/22535123/microsoft-windows-11-leak-screenshots-start-menu
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Leroux: Plus, Win 8.1 at least allowed you to make the best of it and customize tiles (not directly, but with the help of free third-party programs). Win 10 made that harder or even impossible.
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patrikc: That actually looks nice. Might have to give it a try at some point.
It's a bit roundabout, and quite a bit of work if you have lots of tiles, but for a few or one at a time it's easy enough. Look for a program called OblyTile (only works on Win 8 though, not Win 10). And don't get too attached, seeing that Win 8 has an expiration date, too. ;)
Post edited June 15, 2021 by Leroux
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timppu: Ok I admit I spent so little time with Windows 8.1 that I don't quite recall how it differed from Windows 8...
If you Install Classic shell on 8.1, you'll have a "glorified" Windows 7.
Better start menu but with the same W7 style, same Control Panel with fast Start Menu short cuts, same drivers, same programs, better task manager, much easier to tweak and install, lot's of colors to choose from (medium gray in my case). And more important, same performance and low resources (06/0.7 GB of RAM and CPU dead zero most of the time) as Win7, with better hardware support )native USB 3.0, Xbox controller drivers etc...)
Post edited June 15, 2021 by Dark_art_
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patrikc: That actually looks nice. Might have to give it a try at some point.
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Leroux: It's a bit roundabout, and quite a bit of work if you have lots of tiles, but for a few or one at a time it's easy enough. Look for a program called OblyTile (only works on Win 8 though, not Win 10). And don't get too attached, seeing that Win 8 has an expiration date, too. ;)
Much appreciated. I am using 8.1 in an offline environment for gaming and I think I will stick with it for a while.
I uninstalled/disabled most of the irrelevant stuff and it runs great, very light on resources.
Post edited June 15, 2021 by patrikc
Optimistic part of me wants to believe that it will be for Windows 10 what Windows 7 was for Windows Vista, but I always had problems with optimism. Changes that were revealed thus far don't look convincing - new disk management tool for example looks horrible (old one may look dated but at least it's easy to read).
The key text there was: “ it is likely to include a host of new features, a more modern look and a redesigned Start menu”. Great, so more bloatware which needs special tools to get rid of, and still reinstalls itself every update (looking at you edge). And a new redesign of start menu, as obviously people going to the extremes of replicating the old start menu because that is more functional doesn’t clue you in its no good. To be fair though, win 10 pro has not been all bad. Solid compatability, relatively fast. Just make sure you get a pro version in dvd form. Latest computer I got has windows 10 pro alright, it’s hard built onto a motherboard chip! Whilst I used to promote pcspecislist.co.uk, I don’t anymore. Build your own and get a proper windows copy.
Just as an idea.
Shouldn't we wait till 24. of june to see what MS does plan?


@timppu
Right now every 6 month update of windows 10 is very close to a releaseupgrade from older to newer windows.
At last the big updates are more like a new install of a new windows and the user data is moved by the installation in the end.
You even got the windows.old folder with your old windows install in it for a possible rollback.

Even if they come up with a new number. There will be less hazzle with upgrading this time. Just because you do it all the time already.
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InSaintMonoxide: I thought they said they weren't going to release another Windows back when they announced Windows 10.
If I remember correctly it was a Ms employee that said that (as in his personal opinion), but I don't think it ever was officially stated by Microsoft themselves.
They should end it now and go back to 7.
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DoomSooth: They should end it now and go back to 7.
They should make a proper successor to 7 instead, but that ship has sailed since Nadella happened :\
Screenshots leaked for windows 11, it actually looks nice I am impressed. I didn't like windows 10 and using 7 still but so far based on the leaks I am hopeful. The only thing I dont like is that they centered the taskbar icons like apple does but maybe they will allow us to left align it.
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ChrisGamer300: A bird whispered a while ago that Microsoft will implement daily online verification, Monthly payment subsciption (free to install) and require consent to a EULA agreement to periodically scan some directiories on your PC:
Joy. Can't wait to have an offline mode where none of my games work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E983349p7Q
Post edited June 15, 2021 by Grargar
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Paradoks: Optimistic part of me wants to believe that it will be for Windows 10 what Windows 7 was for Windows Vista, but I always had problems with optimism. Changes that were revealed thus far don't look convincing - new disk management tool for example looks horrible (old one may look dated but at least it's easy to read).
I am much less interested in how it will look, whether icons are rounded, what kind of start menu it has, what kind of startup sound it has etc...

I am more interested what will be delivered under the hood. For instance:

Microsoft has reportedly been working on a new app store for Windows in recent months, and rumors suggest it will be a big change from what exists today. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has promised to “unlock greater economic opportunity for developers and creators” with Windows, and that will likely come in the form of a new store.

Microsoft is reportedly overhauling its Windows app store to allow developers to submit any Windows application, including browsers like Chrome or Firefox. Microsoft may also be considering allowing third-party commerce platforms in apps, allowing developers to avoid the cut Microsoft usually takes from in-app purchase systems.
...which to me seems to suggest that MS is ramping up the push for Windows Store as the default place for people to go to, even if they wanted to install a Steam or EGS or Galaxy client from there.

I want to see how Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney react to those news. Earlier they have been the biggest critics of Windows Store, calling it an attempt for Microsoft to lock down Windows so that competing digital software stores wouldn't have meaningful life in their ecosystem, in the long run.

"Allowing" competing software stores to work through the Windows Store sounds like the familiar "embrace, extend and extinguish"-tactic that Microsoft has used also in the past. First try to make it appear you are their friend, but at the same time taking control over them, etc. etc.

We will see. Maybe Valve will put even more effort to their Plan B, Linux gaming.
Post edited June 15, 2021 by timppu
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ChrisGamer300: A bird whispered a while ago that Microsoft will implement daily online verification, Monthly payment subsciption (free to install) and require consent to a EULA agreement to periodically scan some directiories on your PC:
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Grargar: Joy. Can't wait to have an offline mode where none of my games work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E983349p7Q
I heard about that, consoles are just drm machines nowadays. Gaming on PC might have an uphill atm with parts as consoles but also ridiculous prices but atleast we have the option to be free of such restrictions.
Post edited June 15, 2021 by ChrisGamer300
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lupineshadow: Windows 2000 - bet not many of you had this installed at home.
Exceptional operating system. Basically Windows XP without the bloat and with a proper colour scheme and UI. I went straight from this to Windows 7 Professional.