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Darm. This means I will need to upgrade my computer before the OS for new systems are switched to Windows 11.
Interestingly, Windows 10 will have about the same 10 year lifespan than what e.g. Windows 7 had.

Windows 7 was released in 2009, but its mainstream support ended already in early 2015 IIRC, meaning no more new features to it, only security fixes. The security fixes for Windows 7 ended in the beginning of 2020.

So, if Windows 10 will stop receiving security fixes already as soon as in 2025, 4 years from now... when will it stop receiving new features? 2023? 2022? This year?

Whenever that is, I presume they would be releasing the next Windows version already before that (the end of Windows 10 mainstream (feature) support), so that people can migrate to the new Windows for new features.

Anyway, I am sure masses of Windows users will boldly proclaim Windows 10 is the most bestest Windows version ever, and they will absolutely NEVER migrate to the next Windows version! Just like they NEVER migrated to Windows 10, or Windows 7, either! :)
Post edited June 15, 2021 by timppu
Also don't forget to turn off automatic updates if you have Win10, i wonder if MS will try to pull such stunts again.
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timppu: Anyway, I am sure masses of Windows users will boldly proclaim Windows 10 is the most bestest Windows version ever, and they will absolutely NEVER migrate to the next Windows version! Just like they NEVER migrated to Windows 10, or Windows 7, either! :)
some stragglers cant be helped
we can only hope the new win will be so awesome nobody wants to use other OS
except hipsters they always want to be different..
So much for the 'contiuous update model' and 'no new version numbers'. But that was to be expected. Of course Win 11 will be even more full of spyware, even more restricted to Microsoft products and a Microsoft account. And of course it will be released buggy.
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lupineshadow: Windows 8 - horrible
Windows 10 - seems ok but who knows what's going on under the hood
Is there any reasonable explanation for this huge difference in judgement, apart from Win 8 being a shock for all at first? What does Win 10 do so much better than Win 8(.1)? I use both versions, and for me the biggest noticeable difference is that Win 10 does even more stuff you can't opt out of and the new tiles are even harder to customize so that they look halfway decent (if you even want to bother with those, but Win 10 still has them, only worse). If Win 10 was a passable version following a really bad one, why is all the mobile UI / app / Microsoft account stuff still in it?
Post edited June 15, 2021 by Leroux
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ah the tolerant linux fans already dvoting :)

they must be angry win gets a new version while they still couldn't stop distrohopping hoping to find a good linux
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Leroux: Is there any reasonable explanation for this huge difference in judgement, apart from Win 8 being a shock for all at first? What does Win 10 do so much better than Win 8?
I felt the Windows 8 "fullscreen tablet interface" and start menu was awful, and with Windows 10, Microsoft seriously backpedaled, bringing the Windows desktop once again to the front, at least for the time being. As if Windows 10 was Microsoft's way of saying "Ok we are sorry, we screwed up seriously with the Windows 8/8.1 user interface, trying to make all our desktop users ===> tablet users right away.".

That alone made me like Windows 10 much more than Windows 8/8.1. At the same time though, Windows 10 user interface felt and still feels messy and incoherent, as if it can't decide whether it wants to use the old legacy, or new, user interface. Many things are in both, gah...

Anyway, I felt Windows 10 user interface is still easier to use for a desktop user with a mouse and a keyboard, than the 8/8.1 interface.

Microsoft was not alone, I think Ubuntu (Linux) also introduced some silly user interface back then that seemed to be more suitable for touchscreen tablets than desktop PCs and laptops. That was the point when I started seeking for an alternative to Ubuntu, and ended up with Linux Mint (XFCE), using it in home use ever since. It felt some companies suddenly felt that the future is solely in the touchscreen tablets and phones, and desktop users are a dying breed. (Microsoft went even to proclaim that in the "near future" (ie. about now), home users will not use physical keyboards or mouse at all, but do 99% of their computing stuff on touchscreen devices. Only programmers and such need keyboards and a mouse, yeah...).
Post edited June 15, 2021 by timppu
Oh, come on. Feels like I only just switched to this piece of shit.
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timppu: I felt the Windows 8 "fullscreen tablet interface" and start menu was awful, and with Windows 10, Microsoft seriously backpedaled, bringing the Windows desktop once again to the front, at least for the time being. As if Windows 10 was Microsoft's way of saying "Ok we are sorry, we screwed up seriously with the Windows 8/8.1 user interface, trying to make all our desktop users ===> tablet users right away.".
But 8.1 already allows you to ignore the start screen and start with the desktop instead, plus it re-introduced a no-frills classic start menu. Win 10 actually backpedaled on that and merged the classic start menu with the tablet style tiles, so now you can't fully ignore them anymore like in Win 8.1. Instead of getting a choice between the two, you now have the worst of both worlds, with an even uglier, inconsistent look. I'd rather have tiles on a separate page I can switch to or ignore than have them clutter up the start menu.
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Leroux: But 8.1 already allows you to ignore the start screen and start with the desktop instead, plus it re-introduced a no-frills classic start menu. Win 10 actually backpedaled on that and merged the classic start menu with the tablet style tiles, so now you can't fully ignore them anymore like in Win 8.1. Instead of getting a choice between the two, you now have the worst of both worlds, with an even uglier, inconsistent look. I'd rather have tiles on a separate page I can switch to or ignore, then have them clutter up the start menu.
Ok I admit I spent so little time with Windows 8.1 that I don't quite recall how it differed from Windows 8... I mainly went back to Windows 7, and later used Windows 10 with PCs where it came preloaded. So for the most part, I skipped both Windows 8/8.1, only shortly visiting both.
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Breja: Oh, come on. Feels like I only just switched to this piece of shit.
Just use Linux... and everything will smell nice and fresh, guaranteed!
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timppu: Ok I admit I spent so little time with Windows 8.1 that I don't quite recall how it differed from Windows 8... I mainly went back to Windows 7, and later used Windows 10 with PCs where it came preloaded. So for the most part, I skipped both Windows 8/8.1, only shortly visiting both.
Plus, Win 8.1 at least allowed you to make the best of it and customize tiles (not directly, but with the help of free third-party programs). Win 10 made that harder or even impossible.
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Leroux: Plus, Win 8.1 at least allowed you to make the best of it and customize tiles (not directly, but with the help of free third-party programs). Win 10 made that harder or even impossible.
That actually looks nice. Might have to give it a try at some point.
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timppu: I felt the Windows 8 "fullscreen tablet interface" and start menu was awful, and with Windows 10, Microsoft seriously backpedaled, bringing the Windows desktop once again to the front, at least for the time being. As if Windows 10 was Microsoft's way of saying "Ok we are sorry, we screwed up seriously with the Windows 8/8.1 user interface, trying to make all our desktop users ===> tablet users right away.".

That alone made me like Windows 10 much more than Windows 8/8.1. At the same time though, Windows 10 user interface felt and still feels messy and incoherent, as if it can't decide whether it wants to use the old legacy, or new, user interface. Many things are in both, gah...

Anyway, I felt Windows 10 user interface is still easier to use for a desktop user with a mouse and a keyboard, than the 8/8.1 interface.
As a Windows Tablet user I can say that Windows 10 is much more Tablet oriented than 8.1.
Yes, 8 was a freaking huge mistake and somehow corrected with 8.1, wich is far from perfect. But they never stopped developing Windows for Tablets, their own Surface line. All the buttons on Win10 UI are big so fingers can press them and there are some built in tools to assist Tablet users (like virtual touchpad).
The good stuff is that they implemented most Tablet features cross compatible with desktop/laptop users, unlike that Windows 8 start menu aberration.

I finally was able to ditch Windows 10 and start using 8.1 + Classic Shell exclusively on both my devices and can say, after a few tweaks and 3rd party programs is as good as Windows 10 for tablet users. I don't use the stupid "tablet mode" either.