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Posted May 22, 2018
Does anyone know if MS messed with anything CD-ROM related in the latest Win 10 build?
Age of Empires Gold was working fine and now it's not passing the disk check or playing the CD audio on the title page and I'm sure the latest Win 10 build installed itself since I last tried to play it!
Ta!
This question / problem has been solved by Plokite_Wolfimage
Posted May 22, 2018
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Fever_Discordia: Does anyone know if MS messed with anything CD-ROM related in the latest Win 10 build?
Age of Empires Gold was working fine and now it's not passing the disk check or playing the CD audio on the title page and I'm sure the latest Win 10 build installed itself since I last tried to play it!
Ta!
For AoE: Rise of Rome (Gold is also eligible) specifically, use UPatch, which not only fixes a lot of things and improves compatibility, but also removes the need for the disc and uses a converted CD audio music track. (n.B. it's what was used as a balance basis for Microsoft's official Definitive Edition!)
Posted May 22, 2018
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Fever_Discordia: Does anyone know if MS messed with anything CD-ROM related in the latest Win 10 build?
Age of Empires Gold was working fine and now it's not passing the disk check or playing the CD audio on the title page and I'm sure the latest Win 10 build installed itself since I last tried to play it!
Ta!
Huh? Disc image all you cd's. I haven't used an actual physical disc in 5-10 years since I imaged them all. Hard to even find a computer with a coffee cup holder anymore.
As for disc check, hadn't even realised there was one, again try an image, and if not pick up a nocd.
Yes M$ changed a lot in each update, which is at least once or twice a day, welcome to always online world. My today update fecked up resolution on heretic inquisition, took me a while to find the option. Backwards comparability is not even on the list of windows features.
Posted May 22, 2018
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Fever_Discordia: Does anyone know if MS messed with anything CD-ROM related in the latest Win 10 build?
Age of Empires Gold was working fine and now it's not passing the disk check or playing the CD audio on the title page and I'm sure the latest Win 10 build installed itself since I last tried to play it!
I'm honestly surprised you even managed to get it to work with any version of W10 unpatched. uPatch installs a "no-CD" that side-steps the W10 restrictions on Safedisc, etc, disc-based DRM. Looks really good in 1080p too.
Posted May 22, 2018
Cool guys, I'll check out UPatch when I get home
I've been working on this play-through since at least 2013 which seems to pre-date this thing!
Posted May 22, 2018
Yep - not only did you guys solve my problem I also got better resolutions, better music and the 2 missing mini-campaigns from the demo into the bargain - cheers, awesome!
Posted May 22, 2018
I'll just add that anything that uses Secure rom, etc will not work from the disc due to Windows blocks it. Also be careful when using them it as i've had my PC BSOD and enter a unbootable stage due to this.
Posted May 22, 2018
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Pond86: I'll just add that anything that uses Secure rom, etc will not work from the disc due to Windows blocks it. Also be careful when using them it as i've had my PC BSOD and enter a unbootable stage due to this.
SecuROM will work. SafeDisc won't.
Posted May 23, 2018
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Pond86: I'll just add that anything that uses Secure rom, etc will not work from the disc due to Windows blocks it. Also be careful when using them it as i've had my PC BSOD and enter a unbootable stage due to this.
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Plokite_Wolf: SecuROM will work. SafeDisc won't.
Didnt work for me. Last time I tried it, it bricked my PC. Just saying be careful with Windows 10 and the older games.
Posted May 23, 2018
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Fever_Discordia: Yep - not only did you guys solve my problem I also got better resolutions, better music and the 2 missing mini-campaigns from the demo into the bargain - cheers, awesome!
Glad you got it working again. If you have AoE2 + Conquerors (the original retail disc version, not the Steam "HD"), there's a similar widescreen patch for that here:-
http://userpatch.aiscripters.net/
Posted May 23, 2018
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Plokite_Wolf: SecuROM will work. SafeDisc won't.
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Pond86: Didnt work for me. Last time I tried it, it bricked my PC. Just saying be careful with Windows 10 and the older games.
Your PC bricking couldn't have been due to SecuROM. Even if it were, your disc may have been so damaged that it caused a critical error on your hard drive, which must have been failing to begin with.
Posted May 23, 2018
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Pond86: Didnt work for me. Last time I tried it, it bricked my PC. Just saying be careful with Windows 10 and the older games.
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Plokite_Wolf: Your PC bricking couldn't have been due to SecuROM. Even if it were, your disc may have been so damaged that it caused a critical error on your hard drive, which must have been failing to begin with.
The disc works fine under older versions of Windows on the same PC, 10 it BSODs.
Posted May 23, 2018
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Pond86: I'll just add that anything that uses Secure rom, etc will not work from the disc due to Windows blocks it. Also be careful when using them it as i've had my PC BSOD and enter a unbootable stage due to this.
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Plokite_Wolf: SecuROM will work. SafeDisc won't.
How do you tell which flavour of protection the game you are trying to get to run uses anyway?
Cheers
Posted May 23, 2018
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Fever_Discordia: How do you tell which flavour of protection the game you are trying to get to run uses anyway?
Sometimes you can tell by looking at the disc files (eg, maybe one DLL file will be named something like "Securom.dll"). Other times, the info is available on PCGamingWiki. Examples for AoE 1-2:-

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Age_of_Empires

[url=https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Age_of_Empires_II:_The_Age_of_Kings]https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Age_of_Empires_II:_The_Age_of_Kings[/url]

Personally I have the Collectors Edition which is AoE 1-2 + Rise of Rome & Conquerors expansions, pre-patched to be DRM-free (and on DVD-ROM rather than CD-ROM's).
Post edited May 23, 2018 by AB2012
Posted May 23, 2018
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Fever_Discordia: How do you tell which flavour of protection the game you are trying to get to run uses anyway?
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AB2012: Sometimes you can tell by looking at the disc files (eg, maybe one DLL file will be named something like "Securom.dll"). Other times, the info is available on PCGamingWiki. Examples for AoE 1-2:-

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Age_of_Empires
I don't see where PCGamingWiki mentions the copy protection, let alone which one is used on all different international releases...

Anyway, sometimes/often finding a good ISO (or other image) online* is easier and quicker than trying to make an image yourself (some disk based copy protections take some serious research to circumvent when imaging).
*Just be careful what/where you download!
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