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Shogo officially doesn't work, but using dgVoodoo fixes the problem.

Anything that uses winmm.dll to emulate CD playback will probably be missing the music.
Post edited September 05, 2015 by jamyskis
What good things do you have to say regarding Windows 10. I'm guessing that, regarding old games, it has no advantages over 7 or XP. Am I wrong?
Do you see any advantage other than DX12 on newer games?
Ouch! That list of games w/o Win10 support contains FAR too many games I have :-( and several of which I still want to play.
At the risk of repeating myself, pay good attention to your privacy with Win 10, and maybe you'll rate this article as high as I did:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html


I do think that practically the game publishing studios / gaming client providers must follow what Microsoft does, but so should we, as per above! :-)
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Themken: Ouch! That list of games w/o Win10 support contains FAR too many games I have :-( and several of which I still want to play.
Keep your old PC around. ;)
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TStael: At the risk of repeating myself, pay good attention to your privacy with Win 10, and maybe you'll rate this article as high as I did:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html

I do think that practically the game publishing studios / gaming client providers must follow what Microsoft does, but so should we, as per above! :-)
In order to encourage people to update to 10, they've been backporting that garbage to 7 and 8.
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TStael: At the risk of repeating myself, pay good attention to your privacy with Win 10, and maybe you'll rate this article as high as I did:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html

I do think that practically the game publishing studios / gaming client providers must follow what Microsoft does, but so should we, as per above! :-)
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hedwards: In order to encourage people to update to 10, they've been backporting that garbage to 7 and 8.
Microsoft pushed UEFI/SecureBoot to PCs so that "unsecure" OSes (like various Linux distros and other non-Windows OSes) are harder to install, and in the future can't possibly be installed at all anymore as MS seems to be now dropping the PC vendor requirement for the ability to disable SecureBoot in case it causes problems. After that, only MS-approved OSes can be installed, I guess?

Then, MS releases Windows 10 which acts more like malware, trying to log everything you type, say, read your emails etc. Thanks Microsoft, trying to save us from "unsecure" OSes like Linux Mint, and force us to use "secure" Windows 10. :D

Other than those privacy concerns and some backwards-compatibility issues (yes, I still want to play my old SecuROM retail games, if I have any), Windows 10 feels pretty ok though. At least it is better than Windows 8.x because it goes directly to the desktop and runs WinRT apps in a window, that much is certain.

Oh, but that stupid restriction that you can have only max 256 items in your Start menu... WTF? It takes no time to hit that limit, as it apparently counts every item (readme shortcuts etc.), it doesn't mean e.g. 256 installed applications/games... MS hasn't apparently fixed it yet? At least there are workarounds, like hunting down where the Start menu items are in the filesystem, then you can access them from there with e.g. File Explorer.

All in all, I have reserved and authenticated a copy of Windows 10 Pro "just in case" for my ASUS G75VW, but I will probably keep running Windows 7 on it as long as I can. And maybe Linux Mint. I'll use Windows 10 on my future PC(s) because I have no other option.
Post edited September 06, 2015 by timppu
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hedwards: In order to encourage people to update to 10, they've been backporting that garbage to 7 and 8.
I leave the link from my post because I think it is really a positive example of benefit of specialized journalism to a layman!

Probably most anyone would ideally want to have control of their privacy, but it is not made easy, nor explicit, in Win 10. It does not necessarily follow it is a bad OS meanwhile, I am not convinced of that yet.

As u know, hedwards, my knowledge of things is "for a dummy" in many things, thence I quite value that series! :-)

So care to explain: what do you mean by "backporting" here?

Neutrally, if you please, and negatively, also - if applicable, for a layman sort, gaming interested PC user, that is neutral about Windows (or Microsoft OS).
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hedwards: In order to encourage people to update to 10, they've been backporting that garbage to 7 and 8.
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timppu: Microsoft pushed UEFI/SecureBoot to PCs so that "unsecure" OSes (like various Linux distros and other non-Windows OSes) are harder to install, and in the future can't possibly be installed at all anymore as MS seems to be now dropping the PC vendor requirement for the ability to disable SecureBoot in case it causes problems. After that, only MS-approved OSes can be installed, I guess?

Oh, but that stupid restriction that you can have only max 256 items in your Start menu... WTF?
But would your first remark not just vitalize Apple fanciers (my default assumption is that if Windows can be booted on their HW, anything can) or OS free HW suppliers?

Okei, Microsoft made an agreeable blunder with mobile devices acquisition (at least, from Finnish perspective) - but I cannot imagine they are quite so cocksure as being operating system monopoly? I would rather find that portability would be a more conciliatory and better business policy, surely?
Post edited September 09, 2015 by TStael
I actually reserved, upgraded to 10, and authenticated my windows 8.1 install on my new machine before a downgrade. Why the downgrade (and subsequent re-installation of everything)? Simple: BSOD loop on boot where the MS solution was to downgrade. I just have to hope in the future I can utilize the upg after a year. Since I dual-boot, I did reserve a copy on the windows 7 partition when I had a old PC but didn't get a change to use it since new PC=new OS install (couldn't generalize it). Fun fact: I tried to revert without the re-install only to find it DELETED the reversion stuff to free up space so beware if you are low on HDD space.
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TStael: So care to explain: what do you mean by "backporting" here?
It probably counts as an obscure term. Porting means to take a feature from one OS to another. Back porting means to take a feature that's released for a later version of the US and port it back to a previous version.

I've seen nothing in Windows 10 that makes me want to have it. Time will tell how bad it is, but the privacy issues alone ought to give people reason to question making it their primary OS.
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hedwards: I've seen nothing in Windows 10 that makes me want to have it. Time will tell how bad it is, but the privacy issues alone ought to give people reason to question making it their primary OS.
But no one reads the EULA and just assume Windows 10 because it has a higher number is an upgrade...

Perhaps what Foamy thinks on it...
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hedwards: I've seen nothing in Windows 10 that makes me want to have it. Time will tell how bad it is, but the privacy issues alone ought to give people reason to question making it their primary OS.
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rtcvb32: But no one reads the EULA and just assume Windows 10 because it has a higher number is an upgrade...

Perhaps what Foamy thinks on it...
I read the EULA and what I'm finding out now is substantially worse than what the EULA says. The way it's written makes it sound like it's a bit of information about a few things rather than damn near everything for vague reasons.

It could be innocent enough, but MS really needs to clarify the issues if they're going to be transferring that amount of data.
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hedwards: I've seen nothing in Windows 10 that makes me want to have it. Time will tell how bad it is, but the privacy issues alone ought to give people reason to question making it their primary OS.
In my case:

If the PC has Windows 8.x => yes, because Windows 10 at least runs those darn Windows RT apps in normal desktop windows, and doesn't feel like a schizophrenic OS which doesn't know if it wants to be a desktop or tablet OS. At least Windows 10 feels like a proper desktop OS now, closer to Windows 7 in that regard than 8.x.

If the PC has Windows 7, and game backwards compatibility matters to you => no. This might change when the support for Windows 7 is nearing end, maybe at that point you'd like to extend the MS support by upgrading to Windows 10. In my case though, I'll just probably use Linux on such Windows 7 PCs after that, just like Linux is the main OS now on those PCs where I still have Windows XP (for retro gaming purposes), dual boot.
+1 for Linux + WinXP/Win7 dual boot.
Works well for me although I do only boot my old WinXP seldomly when I'm too stupid to get some Win-only title to run via WINE. Most of the games I bought this year are Linux native anyway and I wouldn't put up with MS-DRM-sh*t just for a game anyway.
Post edited September 09, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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hedwards: In order to encourage people to update to 10, they've been backporting that garbage to 7 and 8.
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timppu: Microsoft pushed UEFI/SecureBoot to PCs so that "unsecure" OSes (like various Linux distros and other non-Windows OSes) are harder to install, and in the future can't possibly be installed at all anymore as MS seems to be now dropping the PC vendor requirement for the ability to disable SecureBoot in case it causes problems. After that, only MS-approved OSes can be installed, I guess?

Then, MS releases Windows 10 which acts more like malware, trying to log everything you type, say, read your emails etc. Thanks Microsoft, trying to save us from "unsecure" OSes like Linux Mint, and force us to use "secure" Windows 10. :D

All in all, I have reserved and authenticated a copy of Windows 10 Pro "just in case" for my ASUS G75VW, but I will probably keep running Windows 7 on it as long as I can. And maybe Linux Mint. I'll use Windows 10 on my future PC(s) because I have no other option.
But would these purportedly "unsecure" OS be dual/multi-booting with Windows, as would be, in reverse, the case of bootcamping Windows OS on Mac HW?

Is this not be just a case of erasing that partition, once the threat is acknowledged, if purging tools are ineffective?

What I want to say: viruses, bitcoin mining exploitation etc - those problems are mostly between the monitor and the chair, regardless of the operating system.

But is not Win 10 "malware-esque" behaviour also to great extent quite steerable from between the monitor, and the chair?

This said, be aware, see Slate - or alike, anything as well n helpfully written.