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I own most of the total war games on Steam, though haven't bought the new one because I no longer use Steam. I would rebuy them all as soon as they came here if they came here. The only Steam games I miss is the Total War series and the Elder Scrolls/Fallout series. At least the later is starting to come here now.
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Chacranajxy: I imagine little to nothing would come to pass.
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ValamirCleaver: You honestly believe that if a large amount of potential customers directly contacted a publisher to inform the publisher that these customers would like to be able to purchase the publishers games from a specific retailer that it would have no affect on whether or no the publisher would consider offer selling the publishers games through the specified retailer? You honestly think that just complaining on the retailers forum is more likely to convince the publisher?...
I do. I think it's ineffective for a bunch of people to contact the publisher for the same reason that online petitions almost never work.

Complaining on GOG's forum won't convince Sega either, but it's more likely to convince GOG to pursue them. And again, it's the more realistic option, since I doubt you'll find a mass of people who care enough about having Sega on GOG to email them... at least, not enough that anyone would care.
Post edited February 17, 2016 by Chacranajxy
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Chacranajxy: I do. Complaining on GOG's forum won't convince Sega either, but it's more likely to convince GOG to pursue them. And again, it's the more realistic option, since I doubt you'll find a mass of people who care enough about having Sega on GOG to email them... at least, not enough that anyone would care.
So you think that a vocal minority passive-aggressively complaining is more effective than direct contact because of general apathy? How much more effort than just complaining on GOG's forum does it take to post on Sega's or the specific game's forum or otherwise directly contact Sega?
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Chacranajxy: I do. Complaining on GOG's forum won't convince Sega either, but it's more likely to convince GOG to pursue them. And again, it's the more realistic option, since I doubt you'll find a mass of people who care enough about having Sega on GOG to email them... at least, not enough that anyone would care.
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ValamirCleaver: So you think that a vocal minority passive-aggressively complaining is more effective than direct contact because of general apathy? How much more effort than just complaining on GOG's forum does it take to post on Sega's or the specific game's forum or otherwise directly contact Sega?
Quite a bit more, because everyone would have to sign up for an account in order to bug Sega about it. Or some would complain on the forum, others would email, but ultimately, there'd be no uniform demand for the games on GOG. Meanwhile, if you bug GOG enough that they actually decide to listen to their customers and go after a publisher like Sega, they can collect that sentiment, demand on the wishlist, and make a genuine business case for Sega bringing their content to the platform. That's a much stronger message.
Well on one hand, Sega were on DotEmu, so they're not adverse to putting their games out DRM-free. But on the other hand, they never came to GOG despite this and the Total War games never appeared on DotEmu either.

But far stranger things have happened. Far, far stranger.
SEGA seems to have dabbled in DRM-Free a little bit but doesn't seem overly interested. Would be nice to have them and Capcom.
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Theoclymenus: But will the Total War series ever come to GoG ?
Of course nobody here can say categorically either way unless GOG or SEGA has made an announcement that they definitely plan to do that, however the big Japanese companies are typically very pro-DRM so it seems quite unlikely that it would happen any time in the immediate future. The only way that one can get a true answer to this question is to ask SEGA themselves and see how they respond if they respond at all. From personal experience as well as the experience of others who have asked various companies such questions in the past however, usually the results of asking are one of the following:

- You never receive any response from the company at all other than perhaps an auto-responder email.

- They do respond but give you a positive worded reply using proactive-only language that says nothing bad and is just full of lovey dovey meaningless drivel as if it were written by a politician's speech adviser, then passed through a legal department. Something like "Dear Valued Customer, Thank you for contacting us concerning <subject of email>. Megagames Corporation prides itself in producing the finest games on the market and we continue to explore new and exciting ways to provide our customers with highly engaging games in today's competitive gaming marketplace. Please sign up for our newsletter in order to keep track of our future products and product features. We thank you for your patronage and are not going to tell you a damn thing about what we plan to do in the future at that level of detail because then we're committed to it, but the truth is we really don't give a crap and have no plans to ever do that, er... I mean thanks for asking, and we hope this answers your question!"

- They respond and are a bit more honest but are purposefully terse - "Thanks for your inquiry to Megagames. Our titles are currently available on Steam and <insert any other places here>. At the present time we do not have any specific plans to release our titles on other platforms."


Smaller game companies or indie developers may engage more directly with their customers and may even give a greater level of detail about whether they plan to offer their games on GOG or not. Some of them will even give way more information publicly than they really should, including unprofessional disclosure of negotiation results, however big name companies pretty much exclusively do not communicate this level of information with the public ever under any circumstances, and of course if GOG wont share that kind of information publicly either if they are in negotiations with some company or want to be some day, unless they've gotten a green light to talk about it from some publisher or feel they can do so without jeopardizing a currently negotiating or future potential deal.

In short, except in very rare circumstances we will never have answers to questions like this from big name publishers unless they themselves announce it somewhere in a press release or blog or something. And if they specifically plan not to do so, or just don't have any plans either way - they tend to make out better by simply not saying anything at all than by speaking about it publicly and either getting people's hopes up or letting people down. The ambiguity of not saying anything is simply a lot more comfortable ground to sit on.
Nah, it ain't gonna happen most likely. Sega seems pretty happy with Steam.
Would I like to see it happen? Hell yes.

Will it ever happen? Probably. Someday. Like when we're all in nursing homes and eating through a straw. I definitely predict that SEGA will end up doing a deal to put their games on GOG within at least the next 50 years... give or take a decade.
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thewitcherpotion: Medieval 1, Shogun 1 arent available on steam. They have the total war games beggining with Medieval 2. As i understood, those games before medieval 2 were published by a different publisher than Sega. Is that the reason they arent on steam?
/boggle

Medieval: Total War™ - Collection
http://store.steampowered.com/app/345260/


SHOGUN: Total War™ - Collection
http://store.steampowered.com/app/345240/
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Elmofongo: Medieval 2 Total War is all we need really.

Shogum 1, Medieval 1, Rome 1 are all dated.
Because let's face it. How many people here enjoy old games? I mean, it's like if some weirdo thinks System Shock 1 is better than the second. Dated graphics and mechanics dude, play SS2!

*Plays SS1*
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Elmofongo: Medieval 2 Total War is all we need really.

Shogum 1, Medieval 1, Rome 1 are all dated.
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javihyuga: Because let's face it. How many people here enjoy old games? I mean, it's like if some weirdo thinks System Shock 1 is better than the second. Dated graphics and mechanics dude, play SS2!

*Plays SS1*
Fine who am I kidding lets have all the games or better yet this WHOLE LIST OF GAMES :D

Armies of Exigo
Bohemia Library
Blade of Darkness
Diablo 1 and 2
Starcraft 1
Warcraft Trilogy
Black and White 1 and 2
Full Throttle
Day fo the Tenticle
Maniac Mansion
Command and Conquer series
Monkey Island 3 and 4
Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines
Age of Empires serires
Civilization series
Half-Life 1 and 2
Counter Strike and Condition Zero
Doom 3 and Ressurection of Evil expansion
Dungeon Siege 1 and 2
Mechwarrior series
SimCity 1 and 3000
The Sims 1 and 2
Battlefield 1942, Vietnam, 2, and 2142
Call of Duty 1+United Offensive
SWAT 4
Commander Keen
Hexen series
Heretic Games
Total War Rome 1, Shogun 1, Medieval 1 and 2
Marathon series
Myth seires
Wizardry 1 to 5
X-COM seires
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 2 and 3 and their expansions
Tom Clacny's Splineter Cell Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory
Brother's in Arms Road to Hill 30 and Earned in Blood
Tron 2.0
Grand Theft Auto 1, 2, 3, Vice City, San Andreas
Red Orchestra 1
Rise of Nations Gold
Crysis 1+Warhead
Throne of Darkness
Shadowcaster
Dune 1 and 2
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Zax: The Alien Hunter
Gorasul: The Legacy of the Dragon
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor
Siege of Avalon
Seal Of Evil
FATE games
Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War 1 and 2
Warhammer Dark Omen
Dragon Age Origins
Post edited February 19, 2016 by Elmofongo