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Hi there gogers. So I have a rather sincerer question for those of you that use Linux as a desktop OS.

Why, just… why!

Okay, there’s a few things I need to go over, I’ll do my best to keep it short though.

What is Linux?
When I say Linux I mean desktop distributions. I’m not interested in hearing about super computers, phones, or microwave OS’s. I’m talking about Debian, Ubuntu, Manjaro and anything else based on that kernel meant for the Desktop.

My position on Linux and Windows.
Hating Microsoft is easy to understand and I don’t like what they’ve been doing with Windows either. Since Win8 I’ve been unhappy with the direction MS is taking this once great OS. Bill Gates needs to come back and set things right.

Linux on the other hand is something I truly hate and despise. I can’t stand the community or the software itself and I can’t for the life of me figure out why people use it or why they push so hard to get others so support it.


My history with Linux
I first tried Linux shortly after the release of Win8 and used it on and off for about 5 years. I decided to preserve judgement until I had spent a descent amount of time with it and learned how to use it properly. I mostly used Linux Mint but I distro hopped as well to get a better understanding of how it all works.


Why I hate it so much
If I was to list everything I didn’t like about Linux I would never stop typing, so instead I’ll just stick to the things that bother me the most.

First and foremost I really can’t emphasize this enough, I know how to use Linux. While I don’t know everything there is to know about Linux I was able to get it to do most things that I wanted it to do. I didn’t really have any problems getting things to work.

So why do I hate it? Because I don’t like the way it works. I don’t like the way it does things. I don’t like the way it install programs, the way it updates, installs drivers, installs itself, excreta excreta. However, the one thing that bothers me the most and the reason I’m posting this here instead of the Linux forums (Linux forums are a waist of time anyway.) is because of the DRM-like behaviour of the software.

We’re all GOG users and one of the reasons GOG is so much better then Steam is because the games are DRM free. From a practical standpoint this means you don’t need internet to get your software to work.

Linux doesn’t have DRM, but it does use repositories to install updates, drivers, and most of all dependencies. Dependencies are needed to make your software work. You can install dependencies offline but this is an extremely tedious process. Not only that, but unlike Microsoft VC++ redistributables, dependencies are both unique to each distribution and ever changing. This means that the files you’ve downloaded will only work with a very specific version of a very specific distribution.

Are you starting to see the problem?

Furthermore Linux has poor software backwards compatibility. This means that the dependencies and the software that needs them can lose functionality with future releases of the kernel. Case and point Remastersys, a program that is no longer supported thus you can no longer use it. The distributions no longer support it, and the dependencies needed to run it are no longer stored in repositories.


Do you see the problem?

What if Trine 2 for Linux is your absolute favourite game? It already needs a specialised selection of dependencies. (They’re listed on GOG’s store page.) That of course have to be downloaded and installed separately from the game.

What if your internet isn’t working and all you’re left with is the install.sh?

What if the repository no longer has the dependencies?

Having DRM free software should mean not having to worry about any of this.


Linux repositories remind me of Steam. Please explain to me why a group of DRM free software enthusiasts, would ever want to use an operating system such as this.
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Magmarock: Please explain to me why a group of DRM free software enthusiasts, would ever want to use an operating system such as this.
Just to personally piss you off, I'm guessing.
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Magmarock: Linux repositories remind me of Steam. Please explain to me why a group of DRM free software enthusiasts, would ever want to use an operating system such as this.
I'll just say this: if you hate Linux, that's fine, but the bulk of the reasoning you presented here can apply to Windows as well. Backwards compatibility? Try running a 16 bit executable on a 64 bit Windows system without having to DL separate software to do it. Try running a game that used Securom or Safedisc on Windows 10. Dependencies? Try running a game or program that needs DX9 components on a fresh install of Windows 10. You'll likely have to go to Microsoft's repository and DL the redistributable.
i don't 'hate' linux itself but i do hate how everything within linux feels like work. i used linux here and there back in the mid-2000s and i like that it exists but too much effort for me.
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fortune_p_dawg: i don't 'hate' linux itself but i do hate how everything within linux feels like work. i used linux here and there back in the mid-2000s and i like that it exists but too much effort for me.
You'd probably find some of the distros a lot less user-surly now.
Linux is great and developing at an astounding rate. One day it may actually be a free, open source competitor to Windows. But as it stands now it lacks functionality and compatibility with too much software out there. To compete with Windows the system must become more Windows-like to be compatible with all the great things Windows offers. And for those that hate Micro$oft, yes there are GREAT things offered by the Windows platform to go with their shitty views on customer rights and users' control of their own machines.
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them peoples who use linux think them's hackers... :-/ been there, done that. made my own port scanners, my 2 trojans in delphi but that was all in highschool. i grown up now, i got no more hobby for hacking.. i guess i'm getting older huh.. :'(
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Now you've created your own thread, I hope you'll stop trolling and derailing any Linux-related thread you can find in the forum.
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Magmarock: Do you see the problem?
You? Don't like it, don't use it. But stop with all that bullshit about Linux software going obsolete when Windows is exactly the same.
Post edited June 25, 2018 by InkPanther
I don't have any real feelings about Linux, since I've never really used it and don't care what others use. However I do always think it's a bit strange that people actively use an OS that is not really made for gaming and then complain when games do not support it. I mean I get that maybe you're fighting the good fight to get more games to support Linux, but most seem so ragey and irritated by it when they should know Windows has been synonymous with PC gaming for 20+ years and it is what it is.
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Magmarock: Linux repositories remind me of Steam. Please explain to me why a group of DRM free software enthusiasts, would ever want to use an operating system such as this.
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GR00T: I'll just say this: if you hate Linux, that's fine, but the bulk of the reasoning you presented here can apply to Windows as well. Backwards compatibility? Try running a 16 bit executable on a 64 bit Windows system without having to DL separate software to do it. Try running a game that used Securom or Safedisc on Windows 10. Dependencies? Try running a game or program that needs DX9 components on a fresh install of Windows 10. You'll likely have to go to Microsoft's repository and DL the redistributable.
Not really. There's quite difference between running something that's prey NT (2000) and something post NT. Most XP programs will work just fine. When it comes to DX9 Win 10 actually has a build in DX emulator built into it called directpaly. You can turn it on in the features menu. Also I have a backup of dx10 June 2010 redist which I always install. So, not really an issue.

As for Securom or Safedisc, hows that Microsoft fault? No platform holder can fix that.
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But Linux is user friendly...
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muntdefems: Now you've created your own thread, I hope you'll stop trolling and derailing any Linux-related thread you can find in the forum.
Takes two to tango. While I was indeed critical on some Linux threads it wasn't until I had back and fourths with other uses did things derail. Don't single me out for blame.
Post edited June 25, 2018 by Magmarock
Oh, and irony of your post is, that GOG started as a company fixing and selling old games not working on modern systems. Bugger off with your trolling.
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paladin181: Linux is great and developing at an astounding rate. One day it may actually be a free, open source competitor to Windows.
At some point I'll make another thread discussing open source in detail. It's good but it's also one of those things that everyone seems to be an export on yet very few people understand.