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Posted February 17, 2016
If GOG had visual novel games, I'd buy them. There are a lot of titles that are worth playing for the story alone. It's a shame that they're such a niche market.
Posted February 17, 2016
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iusefebreze: Apparently stuff like Monster Monpiece and 100% Orange Juice both got turned down by GOG. Is there any reason behind this or is it just GOG hating on Japanese games?
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DaCostaBR: GOG turns down loads of games they don't think are up to their standards. 100% Orange Juice is a digital board game whose main draw seems to be reuniting characters from other games in the developer's catalogue, games that are not on GOG in the first place. Monster Monpiece is a card game about monster girls in skimpy outfits known mostly for making players jerk off their PS Vita to open card packs.

GOG doesn't hate japanese games. They have stuff like Trails in the Sky and La Mulana, but to come to GOG those japanese games need to be good in the first place.
I get that quality control needs to be enforced but both of those games are fun to play even with their quirks.

I would say that they should just let the community vote but Greenlight is horrible and has proven that system doesn't work. I guess they just need to do more better testing and not turn down games because of trivial reasons like skimpy outfits.
Posted February 17, 2016
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BTNLegend: If GOG had visual novel games, I'd buy them. There are a lot of titles that are worth playing for the story alone. It's a shame that they're such a niche market.
They do have a bit of a stigma as well.
Posted February 17, 2016
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BTNLegend: If GOG had visual novel games, I'd buy them. There are a lot of titles that are worth playing for the story alone. It's a shame that they're such a niche market.
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ScotchMonkey: They do have a bit of a stigma as well.
Yeah but it's very easy to search up visual novels and what themes and such actually occur within them.
If there's something you want to avoid all it takes is a simple search on vndb
Posted February 17, 2016
I find myself asking the opposite question more than anything... Why does GOG sell so many Japanese games? To be clear though, I've not got any issues with Japanese games as a whole, as in "games made by Japanese people/companies", but rather I'm not particularly fond of a lot of the Japanese JRPGs and weirdo semi-pedophile type games that seem to be popular in the Japanese style of anime artwork etc. There's so much of that stuff out there and I just don't see any of it as appealing at all. Seems it'd be better suited to a store that specializes in that stuff specifically.

Alternatively though, it'd be nice if GOG just added easy to configure filtering options to the store front so that people could easily filter out various types of games, game genres, individual titles etc. that they just don't want to see ever. Then people could have more control over customizing the experience they personally want to see without being diluted by stuff they personally find uninteresting that others may really be interested in.

Having said that, I have to admit that when I see an unqualified "Japanese games" my mind turns that into "Japanese indie shovelware dating games/RPG maker JRPGs/weirdo shit" all of which I find unappealing, but there are Japanese games and game companies too that I think would be great to see here and/or see more of. Just about anything from Square-Enix for example. Japanese games of the AAA variety in particular which are made for a worldwide audience would be potentially nice to have. The Final Fantasy franchise is perhaps one of the best examples.

But please oh please... no more games with cartoon drawn girls that look 12 years old oversexified that look like a girl's underwear drawer exploded. It's all borderline pedo-porn IMHO.

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iusefebreze: I get that quality control needs to be enforced but both of those games are fun to play even with their quirks.

I would say that they should just let the community vote but Greenlight is horrible and has proven that system doesn't work. I guess they just need to do more better testing and not turn down games because of trivial reasons like skimpy outfits.
I doubt GOG would turn down games due to skimpy outfits. The Witcher 3 has full fledged nudity and sex scenes in it as do the other Witcher games. There are numerous other titles in the catalogue that have full nudity and/or sex scenes, scantily dressed female characters either cartoonish or realistically rendered (like in The Witcher games). It wouldn't make any sense to turn down a game for skimpy clothes or nudity while simultaneously selling games with straight up sex scenes in them.

NSFW/NSFK - https://www.youtube.com/embed/GjgAz3sWc5I (The Witcher 3 - All Uncensored Sex Scenes)
Post edited February 17, 2016 by skeletonbow
Posted February 17, 2016
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DaCostaBR: GOG turns down loads of games they don't think are up to their standards. 100% Orange Juice is a digital board game whose main draw seems to be reuniting characters from other games in the developer's catalogue, games that are not on GOG in the first place. Monster Monpiece is a card game about monster girls in skimpy outfits known mostly for making players jerk off their PS Vita to open card packs.

GOG doesn't hate japanese games. They have stuff like Trails in the Sky and La Mulana, but to come to GOG those japanese games need to be good in the first place.
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iusefebreze: I get that quality control needs to be enforced but both of those games are fun to play even with their quirks.

I would say that they should just let the community vote but Greenlight is horrible and has proven that system doesn't work. I guess they just need to do more better testing and not turn down games because of trivial reasons like skimpy outfits.
I didn't mean to insinuate skimpy outfits was the reason, but rather that it's a bad game and it has nothing else to offer but skimpy outfits.

Granted, I never played the game and know it only from reputation, I could very well be mistaken in my assesment.

Regardless, I'm sure their reason was either low quality or not enough demand in their audience, and not prudishness. In either case, a wishlist entry is your best chance to change their mind.
Post edited February 17, 2016 by DaCostaBR
Posted February 17, 2016
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BTNLegend: If GOG had visual novel games, I'd buy them. There are a lot of titles that are worth playing for the story alone. It's a shame that they're such a niche market.
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ScotchMonkey: They do have a bit of a stigma as well.
Depends. The ones I enjoy aren't the dating sim variety. I think a game like Steins;Gate would be awesome on here.
Posted February 17, 2016
Do we really want more games from these people? :P


On a side note, while their game shows make ours look like Masterpiece Theater, they are die hard baseball freaks and know how to play the game and respect it. That makes them elite IMHO, just a little weird when it comes to giving away cash and prizes. :P
Posted February 18, 2016
I think that GOG missed an opportunity when visual novels started to get Kickstarted into gear. Developers are most easily influenced when they lack experience, connections, and resources. By ignoring VN developers, GOG ceded the market to Steam, and lost the means to readily convince Japanese developers that DRM-free was viable. Those developers won't speak of GOG when they talk to their peers.
Posted February 18, 2016
Never really played much japanese - Any titles worth knowing...?
Posted February 18, 2016
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KasperHviid: Never really played much japanese - Any titles worth knowing...?
Just play all the Ys games on GOG as well as Trails in the Sky games.
Both series are really good.

Neptunia, the other Japanese game I mentioned in my original post, is more of a fanservice game. Not the best gameplay or story but it's a lighthearted game you can play and enjoy very casually. Not to be compared on the level of the former games mentioned though.


If you want to play things that aren't on GOG great starting places would be Final Fantasy, Dragons Quest, or Nintendo games.

I have no idea how you could skip Japanese games. I am almost positive they make up most of the video game market.
Posted February 18, 2016
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skeletonbow: I find myself asking the opposite question more than anything... Why does GOG sell so many Japanese games? To be clear though, I've not got any issues with Japanese games as a whole, as in "games made by Japanese people/companies", but rather I'm not particularly fond of a lot of the Japanese JRPGs and weirdo semi-pedophile type games that seem to be popular in the Japanese style of anime artwork etc. There's so much of that stuff out there and I just don't see any of it as appealing at all. Seems it'd be better suited to a store that specializes in that stuff specifically.
Not trying to be confrontational (seriously), but it's while it's easy to typecast Japanese games as all being like Yandere Simulator or Rape/lay, we do have some arguably outstanding Japanese games like Crimson Clover and the Raiden series. I'd also count Recettear and its companion game Chantelise in there too, if you're willing to get past the art style. That being said, in my own opinion I question GOG's decision to put up Hatoful Boyfriend and its Christmas-centric sequel, if they're going to use the "too niche" excuse with other games. (If you ask me, I think they were trying to chase a trend with that game being really popular with the YouTube crowd at the time.)

The Japanese game question I think applies especially to earlier questions about bullet hell/SHMUP games from renowned names like Cave. IIRC, GOG used the "too niche" excuse with those games, even though we have the aformentioned SHMUP games here already.

As for AAA games from big names like Sega and SquareEnix...for those games, I think it's safe to say that the ball's in their court.
Post edited February 18, 2016 by rampancy
Posted February 18, 2016
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rampancy: Not trying to be confrontational (seriously), but it's while it's easy to typecast Japanese games as all being like Yandere Simulator or Rape/lay, we do have some arguably outstanding Japanese games like Crimson Clover and the Raiden series. I'd also count Recettear and its companion game Chantelise in there too, if you're willing to get past the art style. That being said, in my own opinion I question GOG's decision to put up Hatoful Boyfriend and its Christmas-centric sequel, if they're going to use the "too niche" excuse with other games. (If you ask me, I think they were trying to chase a trend with that game being really popular with the YouTube crowd at the time.)

The Japanese game question I think applies especially to earlier questions about bullet hell/SHMUP games from renowned names like Cave. IIRC, GOG used the "too niche" excuse with those games, even though we have the aformentioned SHMUP games here already.

As for AAA games from big names like Sega and SquareEnix...for those games, I think it's safe to say that the ball's in their court.
Understood. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Japanese art, or Japanese art in video games wholesale. Just specific forms of it, and I don't like the way that a lot of the Japanese art inside or outside of video games portrays little per-pubescent girls as sex objects. I find that quite disturbing, and it seems to be exclusively restricted to Japanese art forms.

That issue aside though, the premise of a lot of the Japanese games I find quiet boring in particular the point and click type dating sims or the super crazy weird stuff that some of the games have which almost defy explanation. Some of the crazy stuff makes me laugh, such as Mr. Mosquito, but most of it is seemingly insane. But then I love Goat Simulator too so who am I to judge. :) The premise of that Hatoful Boyfriend game is just bizarre as hell to me. I just don't get how that could be appealing, but then there are many different genres out there and everyone has their likes and dislikes, and my personal choices for myself are no better or worse than other people's choices for themselves - except for those weirdo games that sexify 9 year old girl artwork etc. :)

Aside from those niche "weirdo" games though, big name stuff like Final Fantasy, The Last Remnant and similar I'd consider to be really on par with anything else out there and they have a distinct Japanese art style, just quite different in many ways from the stuff I find rather bizarre/weirdo. Likewise there are Japanese games that don't particularly have any specific Japanese art style to them, such as other Squeenix games like the Hitman series or Tomb Raider games. Of course we have many of those series titles here already too, but hopefully they'll bring the missing titles here some day as well. :)
Posted February 18, 2016
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skeletonbow: The premise of that Hatoful Boyfriend game is just bizarre as hell to me. I just don't get how that could be appealing, but then there are many different genres out there and everyone has their likes and dislikes, and my personal choices for myself are no better or worse than other people's choices for themselves - except for those weirdo games that sexify 9 year old girl artwork etc. :)
While I fully agree with your thoughts on Hatoful Boyfriend, I have seen a consistent pattern of high praise among many corners of the internet for it, on the apparent strength of its narrative and the way that the characters and their relationships are written. I won't deny that on those comments I actually did go and buy the game, but I've found it really difficult to get over it's initial premise at first glance. Or it could be that the game that I consider to be the high-water mark of the genre, Katawa Shoujo, spoiled me on VN/Dating Sims. I don't see that game coming to GOG anytime soon, though. :)

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skeletonbow: Aside from those niche "weirdo" games though, big name stuff like Final Fantasy, The Last Remnant and similar I'd consider to be really on par with anything else out there and they have a distinct Japanese art style, just quite different in many ways from the stuff I find rather bizarre/weirdo. Likewise there are Japanese games that don't particularly have any specific Japanese art style to them, such as other Squeenix games like the Hitman series or Tomb Raider games. Of course we have many of those series titles here already too, but hopefully they'll bring the missing titles here some day as well. :)
On that count, I would love to see Platinum Games titles on GOG (fat chance that will even happen though!), or some classic games from the NeoGeo/PC Engine (e.g. Wolf Team, etc.). I'd also love to see more Hitman/Tomb Raider games (like Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, and the upcoming PC port of Hitman GO).
Posted February 18, 2016
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tinyE: Do we really want more games from these people? :P

On a side note, while their game shows make ours look like Masterpiece Theater, they are die hard baseball freaks and know how to play the game and respect it. That makes them elite IMHO, just a little weird when it comes to giving away cash and prizes. :P
Yes, something from the girl on the right.

On a serious note: I really like the 'tales of ---' games. I wish we had one, at least.
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