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tinyE: You can read a guide faster than you can listen to
If all I need is one phrase or sentence, what is the benefit of sifting through tens of minutes of video over... control-f?
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tinyE: You can read a guide faster than you can listen to
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ShadowWulfe: If all I need is one phrase or sentence, what is the benefit of sifting through tens of minutes of video over... control-f?
I'm sorry. I agree I'm just beat. I have no clue why I'm even arguing this. :P
Some people learn differently than others, and speaking as a visual learner, this is out there to help those kinds of people out.
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adaliabooks: I've just finished watching a tutorial about Unity and I literally ended up running it on 1.5 speed (chipmunk voice and all) because that was less annoying then sitting through the guy repeating the same instructions and concepts again and again. And there's another 17 videos in the series, which seems to be actually quite useful so I'm torn as to whether I can be bothered to finish it or not...
BTW, I was browsing forums while my PC is busy rendering stuff and stumbled upon this website which will could be well handful for you:
http://noobtuts.com/unity
It's 90% 2D but it's easy to convert those in 2.5D (or even in 3D if you do some gameplay adjustments)
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catpower1980: BTW, I was browsing forums while my PC is busy rendering stuff and stumbled upon this website which will could be well handful for you:
http://noobtuts.com/unity
It's 90% 2D but it's easy to convert those in 2.5D (or even in 3D if you do some gameplay adjustments)
Thanks, I'll check them out :)
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tinyE:
Nah, I was a bit ornery then, influenza and endless connecting flights tend to dial the crank meter too damn high.
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adaliabooks: Just a little rant here...

Why are all tutorials these days (for anything, programming, using software etc.) videos? What ever happened to typing out a nice simple set of instructions?

It's particularly infuriating with game design / programming stuff because half the time is spent going over the same rubbish all the other videos you've watched have already gone over, but you can't just skip it because you don't know if the useful bit you want is in amongst all the rubbish. And it means there isn't something you can refer back to easily or copy and paste (though the better websites will actually give you transcripts of any code written) to get you started.

I think it's half the reason I struggle with any project I start because when I go to find some resources to show me what to do I have to sit through six hours of video tutorials instead of skimming a few pages in 20 minutes.
Not only that, but 9 times out of 10 the person's voice and mannerisms are incredibly annoying so by the time you've finished one 20 minute segment you want to rip your own ears off...

I've just finished watching a tutorial about Unity and I literally ended up running it on 1.5 speed (chipmunk voice and all) because that was less annoying then sitting through the guy repeating the same instructions and concepts again and again. And there's another 17 videos in the series, which seems to be actually quite useful so I'm torn as to whether I can be bothered to finish it or not...

So why doesn't anyone write normal non-video tutorials and guides for things any more? Do people just not read these days? Maybe they're easier and more convenient to make, but they sure as hell aren't easier to use...

*sigh*
Rant over, thanks for listening!
People nowadays tend to watch videos more than text-based things. Now more and more entertainment activities tend to video chat. For example, when people record their lives nowadays, they usually make a video to record wonderful moments. Moreover, if you are a person who is new to editing, he is not even familiar with the buttons in the video editing software, so he will definitely need some videos to guide him. However, there are also many programs that can be used without learning, such as TunesKit AceMovi and iMovi. Among them, TunesKit AceMovi has many functions, supporting screen recording and slideshow
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adaliabooks: Just a little rant here...

Why are all tutorials these days (for anything, programming, using software etc.) videos? What ever happened to typing out a nice simple set of instructions?

It's particularly infuriating with game design / programming stuff because half the time is spent going over the same rubbish all the other videos you've watched have already gone over, but you can't just skip it because you don't know if the useful bit you want is in amongst all the rubbish. And it means there isn't something you can refer back to easily or copy and paste (though the better websites will actually give you transcripts of any code written) to get you started.

I think it's half the reason I struggle with any project I start because when I go to find some resources to show me what to do I have to sit through six hours of video tutorials instead of skimming a few pages in 20 minutes.
Not only that, but 9 times out of 10 the person's voice and mannerisms are incredibly annoying so by the time you've finished one 20 minute segment you want to rip your own ears off...

I've just finished watching a tutorial about Unity and I literally ended up running it on 1.5 speed (chipmunk voice and all) because that was less annoying then sitting through the guy repeating the same instructions and concepts again and again. And there's another 17 videos in the series, which seems to be actually quite useful so I'm torn as to whether I can be bothered to finish it or not...

So why doesn't anyone write normal non-video tutorials and guides for things any more? Do people just not read these days? Maybe they're easier and more convenient to make, but they sure as hell aren't easier to use...

*sigh*
Rant over, thanks for listening!
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HYHYHwsq: People nowadays tend to watch videos more than text-based things. Now more and more entertainment activities tend to video chat. For example, when people record their lives nowadays, they usually make a video to record wonderful moments. Moreover, if you are a person who is new to editing, he is not even familiar with the buttons in the video editing software, so he will definitely need some videos to guide him. However, there are also many programs that can be used without learning, such as TunesKit AceMovi and iMovi. Among them, TunesKit AceMovi has many functions, supporting screen recording and slideshow
Initial response at the end of this link

But, anyway... Probably has more to do with the ease than anything. I've found people much prefer to read than watch a video if it's something other than a video game or repairing a computer component.
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welcome to modernity where quality/usefulness doesnt matter all matters is the look

why dont you buy a book ?
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Niggles: Some learn better through visuals rather than just words.
this isnt true at all

everybody learns the same way
you have to understand the topic then memorize and let your brain store it for long term

the thing is visualizing a topic can make it more understandable thats why you think visual learners are a thing ,but nope
Post edited July 16, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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Orkhepaj: welcome to modernity where quality/usefulness doesnt matter all matters is the look

why dont you buy a book ?
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Niggles: Some learn better through visuals rather than just words.
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Orkhepaj: this isnt true at all

everybody learns the same way
you have to understand the topic then memorize and let your brain store it for long term

the thing is visualizing a topic can make it more understandable thats why you think visual learners are a thing ,but nope
The thing about visual-learning has some truth to it, but i noticed there's this weird trend to mis-represent it. Some people are more likely to be able to remember something via visuals while others are more attuned to memorizing text. In particular, it has a huge influence on how certain process are perceived, and it also matters what the topic is. For example, a martial artist with no experience is going to be a "visual learner" because they need visual demonstrations to get it. Someone with alot more experience is going to better learn from text that has already simplified certain techniques down to their base component parts making references to something that artist likely has great familarity with. The same can be said with cooking: a recepie is great for someone who knows the nuance between "pinch" and "dash" already, but someone like me whom does not could benefit from a video on it. Of course, this applies to all of us, but the secret here is that people have liked to throw themselves into these boxed mentalities that they are always one or the other, not one or the other depending on the topic and their experience with it.
VARK model is bullshit where learning performance is highly dependent on the subject matter as debunked by Veritasium. Also, you two are playing right into a spammer's ploy (post #52) by constantly bumping up this thread as this is already a 5-6 year old thread.
Post edited July 16, 2021 by MeowCanuck
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I'm not even going to bother with this obvious strawman argument. I don't base my argument on anything called "VARK." Instead, i base this on personal experience both helping people learn things as well as my own learning, as well as the logic clearly outlined above. Do better.
Also, you two are playing right into a spammer's ploy (post #52) by constantly bumping up this thread as this is already a 5-6 year old thread.
A necroposter is not a spammer, just a necroposter. Not only did i point it out to this user, but you're therefore a hypocrite by participating in it. I think it's enough to point out it's necroposting, then redirect the responses to people whom're still around.
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Orkhepaj: welcome to modernity where quality/usefulness doesnt matter all matters is the look

why dont you buy a book ?

this isnt true at all

everybody learns the same way
you have to understand the topic then memorize and let your brain store it for long term

the thing is visualizing a topic can make it more understandable thats why you think visual learners are a thing ,but nope
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kohlrak: The thing about visual-learning has some truth to it, but i noticed there's this weird trend to mis-represent it. Some people are more likely to be able to remember something via visuals while others are more attuned to memorizing text. In particular, it has a huge influence on how certain process are perceived, and it also matters what the topic is. For example, a martial artist with no experience is going to be a "visual learner" because they need visual demonstrations to get it. Someone with alot more experience is going to better learn from text that has already simplified certain techniques down to their base component parts making references to something that artist likely has great familarity with. The same can be said with cooking: a recepie is great for someone who knows the nuance between "pinch" and "dash" already, but someone like me whom does not could benefit from a video on it. Of course, this applies to all of us, but the secret here is that people have liked to throw themselves into these boxed mentalities that they are always one or the other, not one or the other depending on the topic and their experience with it.
do you have evidence for this? The tests ive seen showed there is no such a thing

btw i dont get this necro posting hate, like comments rot or something after a few months?
there is a pause in the thread for a year , and ? does it hurt anybody
Post edited July 16, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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kohlrak: The thing about visual-learning has some truth to it, but i noticed there's this weird trend to mis-represent it. Some people are more likely to be able to remember something via visuals while others are more attuned to memorizing text. In particular, it has a huge influence on how certain process are perceived, and it also matters what the topic is. For example, a martial artist with no experience is going to be a "visual learner" because they need visual demonstrations to get it. Someone with alot more experience is going to better learn from text that has already simplified certain techniques down to their base component parts making references to something that artist likely has great familarity with. The same can be said with cooking: a recepie is great for someone who knows the nuance between "pinch" and "dash" already, but someone like me whom does not could benefit from a video on it. Of course, this applies to all of us, but the secret here is that people have liked to throw themselves into these boxed mentalities that they are always one or the other, not one or the other depending on the topic and their experience with it.
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Orkhepaj: do you have evidence for this? The tests ive seen showed there is no such a thing

btw i dont get this necro posting hate, like comments rot or something after a few months?
there is a pause in the thread for a year , and ? does it hurt anybody
A lot of the necroposting is by bots, a simple check, just joined, no games or activity, post in an old thread, and pushing certain software. It’s a spammer.
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Orkhepaj: do you have evidence for this? The tests ive seen showed there is no such a thing

btw i dont get this necro posting hate, like comments rot or something after a few months?
there is a pause in the thread for a year , and ? does it hurt anybody
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nightcraw1er.488: A lot of the necroposting is by bots, a simple check, just joined, no games or activity, post in an old thread, and pushing certain software. It’s a spammer.
yeah looks like still it is not necro threads problem it is a bot spam problem, as they like to make new threads too
and gog should just put commenting behind actual purchase made on account as any sane company would
Post edited July 16, 2021 by Orkhepaj