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Gudadantza: One thing I can't understand is why some of the most angry and aggressive users in this topic are those without a valid GOG profile
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AB2012: No idea who you're referring to but I thought it would be basic common sense that if someone doesn't use Galaxy, then they'll have no need for a Galaxy profile that would otherwise sit there incorrectly showing 0hrs played on every game for eternity...
Probably. Or not visible, no idea, but it gives error page. Maybe a web page bug.
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I would have to assume that many, if not most, of those that want to avoid Galaxy are also somewhat concerned about privacy.
I can at least confirm that for me. As soon as it was possible, which annoyingly enough was only a couple of days *after* the profiles were introduced, i turned my profile off.
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Gudadantza: Probably. Or not visible, no idea, but it gives error page. Maybe a web page bug.
It's not a bug. If you go into Privacy Settings, there's a box marked "Profile Enabled". Unticking it disables it and will return a page not found. Many offline installer users do this for the reason previously explained - it's completely ridiculous to buy the disk version of Doom in 1993, rack up 1,000hrs gameplay over 20 years, then buy the GOG version 20 years later, then rack up another 300hrs gameplay via offline installers over the next 7 years, only for a 2020 Galaxy Profile to show "Gosh, you haven't played a single minute of Doom (1993) playing it the 'proper' way through Galaxy..." That's why those of us who don't use Galaxy disable it. Not even sure what you were trying to "assume" tying that to "angry & aggressive" people here.
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ciemnogrodzianin: If I ever have to make my GOG downloads using Galaxy, I'll find a way/Win PC to do this, but consider it my last download and I'm moving out from here.
For that hopefully never to come future you can use lgogdownloader to download Galaxy only stuff, obviously only for Mac and Windows. You can use it do do a similar thing with Linux but it uses the offline package as the depot, still handy if there is no patch and its a frequently updated game.
Funny how blues choose to remain quiet on this. The silence makes it very clear what the scumbag management's intentions are.
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Gudadantza: Probably. Or not visible, no idea, but it gives error page. Maybe a web page bug.
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AB2012: It's not a bug. If you go into Privacy Settings, there's a box marked "Profile Enabled". Unticking it disables it and will return a page not found. Many offline installer users do this for the reason previously explained - it's completely ridiculous to buy the disk version of Doom in 1993, rack up 1,000hrs gameplay over 20 years, then buy the GOG version 20 years later, then rack up another 300hrs gameplay via offline installers over the next 7 years, only for a 2020 Galaxy Profile to show "Gosh, you haven't played a single minute of Doom (1993) playing it the 'proper' way through Galaxy..." That's why those of us who don't use Galaxy disable it. Not even sure what you were trying to "assume" tying that to "angry & aggressive" people here.
Yes well. But what I mean is that the behaviour is not very polished. It brings an error page. If every non visible profile brings an error web page I must understand it is a bug. I don't know, Something like "profile non visible" should be expected. Not a cheap "page not found. Come on GOG take a look at that.
Post edited December 15, 2020 by Gudadantza
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AB2012: That's why those of us who don't use Galaxy disable it.
What about the other profile features like blog style text and picture posting, and such? The profile has those things as well.
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AB2012: It's not a bug. If you go into Privacy Settings, there's a box marked "Profile Enabled". Unticking it disables it and will return a page not found. Many offline installer users do this for the reason previously explained - it's completely ridiculous to buy the disk version of Doom in 1993, rack up 1,000hrs gameplay over 20 years, then buy the GOG version 20 years later, then rack up another 300hrs gameplay via offline installers over the next 7 years, only for a 2020 Galaxy Profile to show "Gosh, you haven't played a single minute of Doom (1993) playing it the 'proper' way through Galaxy..." That's why those of us who don't use Galaxy disable it. Not even sure what you were trying to "assume" tying that to "angry & aggressive" people here.
Gametime tracking in Galaxy hasn't worked for a for many months now. No idea what's wrong there, but since for me it's not that important, I really don't care.
I leave my profile on, because judging from myself, for instance when someone makes a friend request, I want to know if they actually have some games here, and it's not a 0-games scam/spam/troll talking to me...
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GamezRanker: The problem is that people(i mean in general, across the net and IRL) seem to be getting more distrustful and seem to also over hype every bad(or seemingly bad) thing they come across. Take this for example.....gog locks a bonus set of skins behind a galaxy unlock and people are seemingly losing their minds over it and acting like the sky is falling.

I, for one, have issues with GOG myself....but I tend to adopt a wait and see approach when I hear things usually.
(which I feel is the more sensible way to go)
While I'd normally say that's a commendable approach, I can't really see this going anywhere positive. While perhaps this is, in a vacuum, not a huge deal, this is only the latest in a string of incidents indicating that GOG is slowly abandoning its DRM-free stance (out-of-date offline installers, other games locking content such as No Man's Sky, selling DRM'd Epic games through Galaxy.), and that's what's really upsetting folks here; it's a portent of things to come. Unless GOG reverses this trend, I don't see this ending well.
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Reyold12: While I'd normally say that's a commendable approach, I can't really see this going anywhere positive. While perhaps this is, in a vacuum, not a huge deal, this is only the latest in a string of incidents indicating that GOG is slowly abandoning its DRM-free stance (out-of-date offline installers, other games locking content such as No Man's Sky, selling DRM'd Epic games through Galaxy.), and that's what's really upsetting folks here; it's a portent of things to come. Unless GOG reverses this trend, I don't see this ending well.
The only reason anyone shops here is the DRM free aspect. If they abandoned that, they'd lose half their audience if not more. It wouldn't make any sense. A handful of sketchy compromises either forced on them (No Man's Sky post-release additions) or for crappy promo items that arguably aren't DRM'd anyway (Cyberpunk) I don't think that changes the overall picture, that GOG are the only store offering DRM free offline installers for every singleplayer game they sell.

They do seem to be trying to create other reasons to buy on GOG... Galaxy functionality that ties all your accounts together, 30 day refunds, etc. Maybe if those take off and they get a ton more users who don't care about the DRM aspect, maybe then they'll do something genuinely upsetting. Until then though, they'd just be blowing their own feet off with shotguns.
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StingingVelvet: maybe then they'll do something genuinely upsetting
While I respect your opinion, I find it mildly condescending that you can read through hundreds of posts across numerous threads where many goglodytes have vented their frustration for days and months about these issues and not consider it "genuinely upsetting".
Post edited December 16, 2020 by mrkgnao
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Gudadantza: One thing I can't understand is why some of the most angry and aggressive users in this topic are those without a valid GOG profile
As others pointed out, my profile is disabled. I don't want any of that crap. I don't track achievements (I find them rather harmful to game play) and certainly don't want to share such... which would also include timestamp earned, which is quite leaky of data. I play games on my lunch break, a supervisor could misinterpret that as playing during the working day. I absolutely don't track time played. As others addressed, there's no tracking it from years past, etc; not that I would. I don't need it. There's absolutely no value in tracking "I have played this game 300 hours". In fact, it's of anti-value and can lead to self shame for some people. And, yes, it's true that some people may be able to use that information for practicing self control; for them, there are whole-life time tracking and scheduling applications that would be of better utility.

And so on.

Also to the person asking for GOG to say "profile turned off" rather than 404 [EDIT: learned that's you, too]: that's a security feature. If someone doesn't post in the forums or reviews and disables their profile, it SHOULD give error and not report disabled. Reporting disabled leaks information: "this user name is taken, active, in use, and by someone who disabled their profile". This is similar to web sites that should always report "bad user name/password combination" rather than "this password does not match the user name" [which leaks "you guessed an accurate user name!"]. Similarly, additional factors should always come after matching username+password. Sites that accept a user name and move on to an alternate security question (favorite restaurant, or some non-password security check) before checking password are leaking that same information, allowing for easier guessing of credentials over time (unless, of course, it ALWAYS goes to a secondary security check even on an invalid user name -- but that usually requires them populating the often-self-selected lesser question, which can lead to building a list of those questions to know validity.
Post edited December 16, 2020 by mqstout
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Crosmando: That would be awesome tbh. I gave up on offline installers in favor of Galaxy because having to manually download a patch everytime the game is updated is just too much busywork, but if I could have my installers plus automated patching I would definetely switch back.
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Truth007: if you arent using offline installers then why not use steam?
I do use Steam. I use GOG and Steam.
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Lifthrasil: No, you didn't misunderstand anything and the Why is: because GOG wants to make Galaxy more mandatory, step by step.
i guess when a company starts to grow too big, they start to pull shit like this.
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StingingVelvet: The only reason anyone shops here is the DRM free aspect. If they abandoned that, they'd lose half their audience if not more. It wouldn't make any sense.
Companies can make miscalculations or even outright act irrationally. I think it's more interesting to speculate at what the company values, rather than what the customer values. It does seem customers here value DRM-free, but if the company is not taking that into account or chasing some other lark, the customers can't really do much about it. Also as an aside there are almost always a couple posters who show up to say the reason they shop here is for old games to work on their modern systems and they will go out of their way to point out the DRM-free aspect is not the selling point.

But anyway, from GOG's actions, the message I take is that they value their proprietary client Galaxy above anything else, including the concept of DRM-free (even regardless of considering that Galaxy effectively locks games behind online DRM). Proof that "Galaxy" is valued by GOG higher than "DRM-free": there are games (including Cyberpunk with this content, but also games where offline installers were found weeks,months,years out of date) where Galaxy users get a superior experience to offline users.