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Alaric.us: Someone pulled up those stats a few pages ago. Go take a look.
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Vainamoinen: I did. You were wrong. No one was talking about the psychological toll of gun violence yet. No one was talking about the number of people affected, just the number of people killed. Also, while we're doing the apple and oranges thing, I'd love to have a comparison of the number of children who find a parent who sent a bullet through his/her brain vs. the number of children who find a parent that purposefully overdosed on tobacco.

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paladin181: I don't smoke anymore. Instead I track someone at work and take a break when they do. Been doing this since I was in the military to illustrate what special treatment smokers would get to feed their habit. I got called on it and told not to do it because I have no legit reason to take a break. I told them it was a masturbation break and I needed to feed my habit. After completely explaining my position they let me continue, and actually put regulations on the smoking breaks within our division. That is what I consider a win.
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Vainamoinen: *sigh*

My boss has pretty expressly asked us to not use our mobile phones during work, but allows smoking breaks. 10 minutes of texting a day seems much more of a problem to him than half an hour to an hour daily smoking. I mean, I neither text nor smoke, but those extra breaks man. Those extra breaks! Would love to have your chuzpa.
It helps that they couldn't fire me in the military and the act of punishing me would be more trouble than letting me take those breaks. So I picked a good battle, because it got things changed (temporarily, at least) with minimal risk to myself.
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Vainamoinen: Thanks for the argumentative consistency. The obvious comeback here is, of course, wouldn't it be time to clamor for getting these very essential liberties back instead of literally fighting against a bunch of traumatized kids who'd rather not have designated weapons of mass killing in the hands of civilians? A fight against the courageous youth, just to preserve a liberty in a form so extreme that it has not even been properly codified? I think there's something fairly obvious to be said about the deescalation skills of people who arm themselves to the teeth in case their government attempts to take away their freedom, but have long since shut up about the essential freedoms they've lived without for 17 years.
Once again, I don't think we are going to come to an agreement. For what it's worth, I don't see your arguments as absurd. I understand why you would see the issue in that way. At the same time I also happen to see it differently. As this is a hot topic, it'll do nothing but generate hate and trolling (already in fact) so it's probably not worth the effort. If you are truly interested in discussing it in great detail and in a level-headed manner, we can do so in private. Honestly, though, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it being that important to you.
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Alaric.us: Honestly, though, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it being that important to you.
I do forgive you, and you are very wrong about that.
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tinyE: The OP uses his script to block anyone who disagrees with him and then asks an open question to the general forum. :P

Anyone find that a little curious?
Seriously, who does he think he is, spam filtering your shit posts? That's a class A felony microaggression! lol

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Alaric.us: Honestly, though, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it being that important to you.
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Vainamoinen: I do forgive you, and you are very wrong about that.
An internet warrior has to do what an internet warrior has to do. o.O
Post edited May 14, 2018 by richlind33