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I hate clocks and calendars in general.
I don't dislike it in the actual summer. What I do dislike is that in the US, the end date for daylight savings time has now been pushed back to the very end of October, instead of early-middle October. For the last two weeks of DST, therefore, we have 5-year-old children in my neighborhood waiting for the school bus at 6:30 am, and it is full-on dark. Not "pre-dawn", pitch black. This is a safety issue--- half-awake drivers who haven't had their caffeine not seeing kids in the dark, and bears (not kidding about the bears, they're brown bears who usually will run away from people, but we do encounter them from time to time).

I live far enough south that in my area, in non-DST months, it never gets dark before the kids get home in the afternoon. So to me, DST all year would cause more problems than it solves. Plus, I'm a morning person, but morning doesn't start before dawn. Morning light is proven to help people wake up more readily. In summer, there are enough daylight hours that DST doesn't disturb getting up, so I don't mind it then.
Because America once had the most precise and perfect calendar, the Mayan calendar. It's astronomical precision and prediction of natural phenomena such as eclipses, lunar and solar, is quite accurate, perplexingly and interestingly, even for modern day astronomers and scientists.

Yet, the calendar that is most common today is faulty, actually looses time and needs changes like this specific one about daylight saving time. When an incomplete, full of "bugs" system happens to be instigated, almost worldwide, when there exists at least a handful of better ones, it is only natural that many people would hate.

I hate it too, but for another reason. Christians "enforced" it and not only it revolves around christian holidays, but actually, most of them, had been pagan and ethnic, before christianity took over to convert them, vandalize relics and wash off the face of the earth, entire civilizations.

Much love to Brazil, as well as to all native americans, who were forced to endured the brutality of european conquerors and their acts of savagery, ruthless exploitation, theft and indistinct vandalization.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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DaCostaBR: So I was right the first time around, there are places where you set the clock back during DST, that was the source of confusion.

Well, if I finally understood it and am not being a dummy, it's the opposite in Brazil, we set the clocks forward so we have more sunlight in the evening, that is the sun sets at 9PM regular time, but in DST it's 10PM. If that is the case then I get now why people don't like it.
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Green_Hilltop: Yeah, you were right the first time around, that's how it is. :) For some reason I just felt like DST ended now for some reason when it actually begins now (I probably associated DST with summer because of the light), so we indeed roll our clock one hour back.

And it makes sense given that you're on the lower hemisphere - you probably have the seasons the other way around like Australia too, right? And different times when the sun sets and rises due to your position to the Equator, compared to Europe.
(UTC+1) is used in winter and is the "normal" or standard time, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Summer_Time]CEST (UTC+2) is used in summer, and is the adjusted or daylight savings time. The "daylight savings" is because you get another hour of light in the evening and can get up at a later time while still catching the sunrise (say you finish work at 17.00, with DST active you finish at what's "really" 16.00, so you have an hour more between work ends and the sun sets).
Post edited November 05, 2015 by Maighstir
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Luned: I don't dislike it in the actual summer. What I do dislike is that in the US, the end date for daylight savings time has now been pushed back to the very end of October, instead of early-middle October. For the last two weeks of DST, therefore, we have 5-year-old children in my neighborhood waiting for the school bus at 6:30 am, and it is full-on dark. Not "pre-dawn", pitch black.
Your young'uns are out waiting for the bus at 6:30am? Whoa. Here, we stagger the school start times as it requires less buses. High school kids first, then middle, then the elementary school bunch. The bigger kids are out just before 6am, but the little ones are out just after 8am. I dread becoming a 5am household.

I can understand your complaint. If you live far enough north, two weeks in October can mean a a 40 minute difference in sunrise time. Interesting!
Because it's inclined to make me rise an hour early.
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Green_Hilltop: Yeah, you were right the first time around, that's how it is. :) For some reason I just felt like DST ended now for some reason when it actually begins now (I probably associated DST with summer because of the light), so we indeed roll our clock one hour back.

And it makes sense given that you're on the lower hemisphere - you probably have the seasons the other way around like Australia too, right? And different times when the sun sets and rises due to your position to the Equator, compared to Europe.
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Maighstir: (UTC+1) is used in winter and is the "normal" or standard time, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Summer_Time]CEST (UTC+2) is used in summer, and is the adjusted or daylight savings time. The "daylight savings" is because you get another hour of light in the evening and can get up at a later time while still catching the sunrise (say you finish work at 17.00, with DST active you finish at what's "really" 16.00, so you have an hour more between work ends and the sun sets).
Oh damn! So I was right after all! After seeing DaCosta's first reply about the clock being forward/back I wasn't sure, so I asked someone at my house and they told me that DST starts now! And that it's so we have more light in the morning in the winter. Dang it, and when I googled it back then to double-check I misread what was written and thought it confirms what that guys said.

So yeah, that's kind of annoying. Sorry Costa, so you were wrong after all in your first assumption, you always roll forward during DST.
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Maighstir: (UTC+1) is used in winter and is the "normal" or standard time, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Summer_Time]CEST (UTC+2) is used in summer, and is the adjusted or daylight savings time. The "daylight savings" is because you get another hour of light in the evening and can get up at a later time while still catching the sunrise (say you finish work at 17.00, with DST active you finish at what's "really" 16.00, so you have an hour more between work ends and the sun sets).
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Green_Hilltop: Oh damn! So I was right after all! After seeing DaCosta's first reply about the clock being forward/back I wasn't sure, so I asked someone at my house and they told me that DST starts now! And that it's so we have more light in the morning in the winter. Dang it, and when I googled it back then to double-check I misread what was written and thought it confirms what that guys said.

So yeah, that's kind of annoying. Sorry Costa, so you were wrong after all in your first assumption, you always roll forward during DST.
Now, you and I are both in Europe and use CET, so we switch the clocks back around now (Sweden switches the last Sunday in October, so we're already done), but on the southern hemisphere Summer and Winter are the other way around, so those Brazilians that do change (roughly the southern half of the country) should move clocks forwards around now as summertime starts.

A slight source of confusion due to an international forum.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by Maighstir
Never liked it, like said before I always heard it was to give farmers more time to bring in crops originally. I think it was less for the farmer him/herself, but more time to bring into market, as they would close later. However I never really researched it or anything.

Modern times I can't see much use for it, especially for farmers who now have all kinds of advantages for harvesting more quickly and aren't subject to always driving the crop into town on the back of a wagon.

As far as light goes, give me a break, the sun is out all damn day- by DEFINITION! There's several little problems it causes, but I haven't seen any advantages other than this "more light" argument. Apparently there are places who simply don't use DST at all, I think they were actually heavy farming areas too.

It actually poses a different problem for me, I work overnight and actually LOSE AN HOUR OF WORK, not to mention being confused as to why lunch is still an hour away just as it was an hour ago! Of course we "gain" an hour in spring too, and it all gets fixed, but is pointless to me.

Someone give me a good reason for this other than, I want to see the sun a little longer.
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Luned: I don't dislike it in the actual summer. What I do dislike is that in the US, the end date for daylight savings time has now been pushed back to the very end of October, instead of early-middle October. For the last two weeks of DST, therefore, we have 5-year-old children in my neighborhood waiting for the school bus at 6:30 am, and it is full-on dark. Not "pre-dawn", pitch black.
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grimwerk: Your young'uns are out waiting for the bus at 6:30am? Whoa. Here, we stagger the school start times as it requires less buses. High school kids first, then middle, then the elementary school bunch. The bigger kids are out just before 6am, but the little ones are out just after 8am. I dread becoming a 5am household.

I can understand your complaint. If you live far enough north, two weeks in October can mean a a 40 minute difference in sunrise time. Interesting!
It used to be that way, but they flipped it for a number of other reasons. We parents weren't real thrilled, especially since now the elementary kids get out first. So the elementary school kids are out at the stop at 6:30 am for the first round of bus trips. The middle and high schoolers ride together on the second round of bus trips at 7:00 am. I live in a fairly rural county, we only have 7 schools altogether (4 elem., 2 middle, 1 high), so the logistics are a bit different from large metro systems.
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blotunga: It's actually because of the switch not the timezone itself. Today people starting work at 9am i would prefer to have a bit more light in the evening even in winter so a permanent summer time would be best for me
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jadeblackhawk: ? I didn't say anything about timezones
I consider applying DST as moving into a different timezone. Basically UTC+1 for example becomes UTC+2 in the summer
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DaCostaBR: It just started again this year here in Brazil, but whenever I hear about it from other places in the world I mostly see vitriol towards it, if you are one the people who hate it, why do you?

I love it, with it during summer the sun sets at 10pm at night over here, it's great!
It ruins my biorhythm and so makes it even harder for me to fall asleep as it is already thanks to mental problems.
I prefer Daylight Saving Time (Summer Time), and yes, it is because there is more sunlight in the evenings, when I can actually use it. I don't care what the sun is doing while I'm at work, because I can hardly see it anyway, but it would sure be nice to be able to have some sunlight when I get out of work! Here in Texas, we just ended Daylight Saving Time, thus "falling back" to standard time. So now the sun is right in my eyes on the drive home from work, and setting just about the time I get home... Oh well
1. It provides no benefit at all. Just pick a time and stick to it.
2. I do not like losing an hour of sleep for no reason.

It's a completely pointless thing to do. If people want "an hour more of daylight" then keep DST, but stop the pointless switching.
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qwixter: 1. It provides no benefit at all. Just pick a time and stick to it.
2. I do not like losing an hour of sleep for no reason.

It's a completely pointless thing to do. If people want "an hour more of daylight" then keep DST, but stop the pointless switching.
+1 for you.