Oh, I didn't know there were places that set their clocks back instead of forward, that's the opposite of what I love about it.

EDIT: Forget it, I misunderstood you again.

Because it's 2015 and this daylight savings time nonsense is a far outdated concept and a waste of time and money.

Governments need to just pick one time (daylight savings or standard) and stick with it.

Just don't go to the other extreme and have one time zone for the whole country like China. That's extremely backwards as well.

When DST ends you roll clocks one hour back. So if you use DST, you always roll one hour forward, and then half a year later, one hour back.

Daylight savings time increases deaths via accidents, heart attacks, suicides, etc

https://www.gwern.net/docs/melatonin/1996-coren.pdf

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/07/dst-change-increases-heart-attack.aspx

Also, it's stupid. people who need to be up in the morning for the extra light (farmers, hunters, etc) will be up no matter what the clock says. Why not just adjust the clock a half hour and leave it alone forever.

I know, but he said "it's 4pm and it's already dark because the sun thinks it's 5pm", that's what confused me, since it's either 4pm and the sun thinks it's 4pm in regular time or it's 5pm and the sun thinks it's 4pm in DST. The way he said it made it sound like the clock was set back an hour from the actual solar time.

The sun doesn't think! That's not science.

But it always struck me as pretty bright.

+1 for you.

Which it is, since you actually have it the other way around - and so did I, because you roll back clock when DST starts, not when it ends (I forget which is which, since the net takes care of it for me). So when DST starts you lose the hour, while in regular time you have one more hour than you have now if you're using DST - so that in wintertime you have sun when you're waking up instead of darkness (so when it's 6AM in regular time, it's 5AM in DST).

So he's right - the sun thinks it's 5PM (solar/regular time), but in DST it's 4PM.

It's actually because of the switch not the timezone itself. Today people starting work at 9am i would prefer to have a bit more light in the evening even in winter so a permanent summer time would be best for me

Another vote for permanent summer time. I hate it when it get's dark at about 4pm during winter. And the additional hour of daylight in the morning is of no use for me, because normally I'm still sleeping at that time of the day.

It has little benefit, the time where the shift of light/dark makes a difference is very short because the time between sunrise and sunset gets shorter/longer very fast in fall/spring.

Coordinating meetings between people in timezones which change the DST on different days is a huge pain as is writing front-end software which has to care about DST.

Made me laugh:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/time-altered-to-suit-uks-several-remaining-milkmen-and-farmers-2013102580620

Of note, when DST ends, for a couple hours, local time is ambiguous. For instance, an hour after 2:30 it's still 2:30. Or, 30 minutes after 2:45, it's 2:15; time went backwards.

There's a reason most OSes (Windows being the notable exception) store the system time in UTC.