Posted October 08, 2015
toxicTom
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Arghmage
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From Germany
Posted October 08, 2015
Thursdays game will be Colts at Texans.
Because of the bad start of the Texans, this wont be much interessting, I assume.
Because of the bad start of the Texans, this wont be much interessting, I assume.
Emob78
jack and coke plz
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From United States
Posted October 08, 2015
The banning of the swastika. One of if not THE most ironic moments in the history of ever.
If you could still do nazi shit, you'd be able to make movies like this...
Surf Nazis must die! (see what you're missing?!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY82OcjjghM
If you could still do nazi shit, you'd be able to make movies like this...
Surf Nazis must die! (see what you're missing?!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY82OcjjghM
toxicTom
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From Germany
Posted October 08, 2015
Emob78: The banning of the swastika. One of if not THE most ironic moments in the history of ever.
If you could still do nazi shit, you'd be able to make movies like this...
Surf Nazis must die! (see what you're missing?!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY82OcjjghM
Movies are ok, since they are "art". Yes. even Surf Nazis ;-)If you could still do nazi shit, you'd be able to make movies like this...
Surf Nazis must die! (see what you're missing?!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY82OcjjghM
zeffyr
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From Poland
Posted October 08, 2015
Oh noes, there's nothing in here!
catpower1980
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Fever_Discordia
Don't Panic
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Posted October 08, 2015
Emob78: The banning of the swastika. One of if not THE most ironic moments in the history of ever.
If you could still do nazi shit, you'd be able to make movies like this...
Surf Nazis must die! (see what you're missing?!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY82OcjjghM
toxicTom: Movies are ok, since they are "art". Yes. even Surf Nazis ;-) If you could still do nazi shit, you'd be able to make movies like this...
Surf Nazis must die! (see what you're missing?!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY82OcjjghM
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/video-games-can-never-be-art
Hopefully backward thinking about the cultural value of computer games will die out the same way he did!
(sorry if that's harsh but it really bugs me!)
Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
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toxicTom
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Posted October 08, 2015
Fever_Discordia: Oh so the German government are with Roger Ebert on this are they?
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/video-games-can-never-be-art
Hopefully backward thinking about the cultural value of computer games will die out the same way he did!
(sorry if that's harsh but it really bugs me!)
Actually the Kulturrat (Culture Council) has declared games art years ago. But no publisher had the balls put it to the test yet. It would probably take a "serious" game to breach this wall (like Maus did with comics - comics are officially art - allowing Nazi symbols - since that one). With that established, publishers could go to court and have the bans on games like Wolfenstein3D removed. http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/video-games-can-never-be-art
Hopefully backward thinking about the cultural value of computer games will die out the same way he did!
(sorry if that's harsh but it really bugs me!)
Getting games (movies, etc) off the index is easier - they just need a "re-evaluation". But bans must be fought before court.
Geddes17
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From Germany
Posted October 08, 2015
toxicTom: Actually the Kulturrat (Culture Council) has declared games art years ago. But no publisher had the balls put it to the test yet. It would probably take a "serious" game to breach this wall (like Maus did with comics - comics are officially art - allowing Nazi symbols - since that one). With that established, publishers could go to court and have the bans on games like Wolfenstein3D removed.
Getting games (movies, etc) off the index is easier - they just need a "re-evaluation". But bans must be fought before court.
Well, nobody dares to go to the court because of the pretty vague chances of success. The problem is the interactivity of games in comparison to films or comics. I don't share this point of view but in German jurisdiction it seems to be a rather established thought that Nazi symbols in games aren't to be allowed because the player is an active part of the game and the story instead of being "just" a spectator (or reader) ...Getting games (movies, etc) off the index is easier - they just need a "re-evaluation". But bans must be fought before court.
Post edited October 08, 2015 by Geddes17
toxicTom
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From Germany
Posted October 08, 2015
Geddes17: Well, nobody dares to go to the court because of the pretty vague chances of success. The problem is the interactivity of games in comparison to films or comics. I don't share this point of view but in German jurisdiction it seems to be a rather established thought that Nazi symbols in games aren't to be allowed because the player is an active part of the game and the story instead of being "just" a spectator (or reader) ...
I don't think so. The law is pretty clear: §86 (3):
Absatz 1 gilt nicht, wenn das Propagandamittel oder die Handlung der staatsbürgerlichen Aufklärung, der Abwehr verfassungswidriger Bestrebungen, der Kunst oder der Wissenschaft, der Forschung oder der Lehre, der Berichterstattung über Vorgänge des Zeitgeschehens oder der Geschichte oder ähnlichen Zwecken dient.
There's nothing about "interactivity". Either games are art (or even "Berichterstattung über Vorgänge des Zeitgeschehens" (reports on history), which would also allow it), or not.victorchopin
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nightcraw1er.488
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Posted October 08, 2015
Well, he is kind of right there. TQ is D2, with some updated graphics and real (no pun intended) mythology/history. Am actually playing through it myself currently as I wait for VHelsing Final Cut to come out. Its got some good bits, but fails to give me that Yay! I got with D2, just feels a bit flat for some reason and can't put my finger on it. Might try again with D2 Immortal mod for TQ which changes the classes and a few monsters. Or there is the Lilith mod merged with Immortal, although I couldn't really get anywhere as you don't start with a weapon.
Its a reasonable engine though, there are camera mods out there and I set mine up for Isometric, gives a nice large area, although you do sometimes see monster spawn points then.
Its a reasonable engine though, there are camera mods out there and I set mine up for Isometric, gives a nice large area, although you do sometimes see monster spawn points then.
victorchopin
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Posted October 08, 2015
nightcraw1er.488: Well, he is kind of right there. TQ is D2, with some updated graphics and real (no pun intended) mythology/history. Am actually playing through it myself currently as I wait for VHelsing Final Cut to come out. Its got some good bits, but fails to give me that Yay! I got with D2, just feels a bit flat for some reason and can't put my finger on it. Might try again with D2 Immortal mod for TQ which changes the classes and a few monsters. Or there is the Lilith mod merged with Immortal, although I couldn't really get anywhere as you don't start with a weapon.
Its a reasonable engine though, there are camera mods out there and I set mine up for Isometric, gives a nice large area, although you do sometimes see monster spawn points then.
Titan Quest didn't give that yay! feeling but, trust me, Inquisitor did. I was so hyped about this one that a yay! moment was predictable, I suppose. But TQ is far more detailed and well polished. Its a reasonable engine though, there are camera mods out there and I set mine up for Isometric, gives a nice large area, although you do sometimes see monster spawn points then.
And what's so cool about Van Helsing: the Final Cut? New feats such as...?
Niggles
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Posted October 08, 2015
nightcraw1er.488: Well, he is kind of right there. TQ is D2, with some updated graphics and real (no pun intended) mythology/history. Am actually playing through it myself currently as I wait for VHelsing Final Cut to come out. Its got some good bits, but fails to give me that Yay! I got with D2, just feels a bit flat for some reason and can't put my finger on it. Might try again with D2 Immortal mod for TQ which changes the classes and a few monsters. Or there is the Lilith mod merged with Immortal, although I couldn't really get anywhere as you don't start with a weapon.
Its a reasonable engine though, there are camera mods out there and I set mine up for Isometric, gives a nice large area, although you do sometimes see monster spawn points then.
vicklemos: Titan Quest didn't give that yay! feeling but, trust me, Inquisitor did. I was so hyped about this one that a yay! moment was predictable, I suppose. But TQ is far more detailed and well polished. Its a reasonable engine though, there are camera mods out there and I set mine up for Isometric, gives a nice large area, although you do sometimes see monster spawn points then.
And what's so cool about Van Helsing: the Final Cut? New feats such as...?