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Posted September 14, 2019
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DadJoke007: Of course I do, it's the value I put in those principles. If that value is 8, and breaking it would give me a 9 in value, I would break that principle.

Or are you suggesting that it's the gift that keeps on giving as long as you stay pure?
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richlind33: What you put in and what you get out are two different things, like investment, and return. If there's no return, what's the point of the investment?
That's kind of selfish, isn't it? If you feed a starving person or help change someone's flat tire, you don't get anything out of it, so you shouldn't do such things?
Posted September 14, 2019
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richlind33: What you put in and what you get out are two different things, like investment, and return. If there's no return, what's the point of the investment?
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StationaryNomad: That's kind of selfish, isn't it? If you feed a starving person or help change someone's flat tire, you don't get anything out of it, so you shouldn't do such things?
To the contrary, I think you get a lot out of helping others. It helps you to grow and mature as a human being. Of course, that isn't something everyone cares about, but I think that's the general direction to take if you're interested in achieving contentment and lasting happiness.
Post edited September 14, 2019 by richlind33
Posted September 14, 2019
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StationaryNomad: That's kind of selfish, isn't it? If you feed a starving person or help change someone's flat tire, you don't get anything out of it, so you shouldn't do such things?
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richlind33: To the contrary, I think you get a lot out of helping others. It helps you to grow and mature as a human being. Of course, that isn't something everyone cares about, but I think that's the general direction to take if you're interested in achieving contentment and lasting happiness.
OK, then. I can agree with that.
Posted September 14, 2019
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richlind33: To the contrary, I think you get a lot out of helping others. It helps you to grow and mature as a human being. Of course, that isn't something everyone cares about, but I think that's the general direction to take if you're interested in achieving contentment and lasting happiness.
This is a good comment, but today most people seem to only care about the virtuous look they get online and off from people, which is why many post about each and every act they do out of kindness instead of just doing such in secret or without getting praise.

Of course they still do good and should be commended somewhat, but the point still stands they are not always doing such for the proper reasons.
Posted September 14, 2019
Remember two things:

1 Patience is the queen of virtues
2 Not being able to resist purchasing something, in a form/condition that harms your tenets/creeds/priorities, means funding and encouraging that practice. Which in turn, translates to less good stuff, hence the message is: "look, he purchased it"!

Vote with your wallet, 100%! Half-ashed measures equal no measures, at all! It's DRM-Free, or NOTHING!
Posted September 14, 2019
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Retroman88: ...So I am just curious really, have any of you in the GOG community been in the position that I am in at the moment where your principles are stopping you from doing something that my will actually enjoy?
No. Because I don't enjoy anything.
Next question.
Posted September 14, 2019
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Retroman88:
Yes. My answer to myself is...

If the experience of a playthrough is cheap enough (usually $1 - $3 dollars in my case), I'll pay for it on Steam -- accepting the fact that I can experience the story but do not own the game.

Otherwise, I wait and hope the game becomes DRM-free and then I pay more for ownership of the game.

But that's just me. ;)

In the above scenario, I don't sweat the DRM experience. If I've paid a fair price for that experience (one I can accept), I just go with it.
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Posted September 14, 2019
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kai2: If the experience of a playthrough is cheap enough (usually $1 - $3 dollars in my case), I'll pay for it on Steam -- accepting the fact that I can experience the story but do not own the game.

Otherwise, I wait and hope the game becomes DRM-free and then I pay more for ownership of the game.

But that's just me. ;)

In the above scenario, I don't sweat the DRM experience. If I've paid a fair price for that experience (one I can accept), I just go with it.
This sounds fair and is close to my take on this. To me it is like a video store rental at that point if so cheap. Of course, I still try for a sale later on on drm free stores to own it outright if I like it.
Posted September 14, 2019
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richlind33: To the contrary, I think you get a lot out of helping others. It helps you to grow and mature as a human being. Of course, that isn't something everyone cares about, but I think that's the general direction to take if you're interested in achieving contentment and lasting happiness.
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BigBobsBeepers: This is a good comment, but today most people seem to only care about the virtuous look they get online and off from people, which is why many post about each and every act they do out of kindness instead of just doing such in secret or without getting praise.

Of course they still do good and should be commended somewhat, but the point still stands they are not always doing such for the proper reasons.
How many people believe that their development as human beings matters, or is even possible?

When you have no place to go in your life journey, a compass has no utility. We muddle through as best we can from one day to the next, never knowing that something beyond our wildest dreams lies in wait for us.
Posted September 15, 2019
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richlind33: How many people believe that their development as human beings matters, or is even possible?

When you have no place to go in your life journey, a compass has no utility. We muddle through as best we can from one day to the next, never knowing that something beyond our wildest dreams lies in wait for us.
You make some interesting points, as life is many times too short.

And I have to say I love your picture next to your name. It reminds me of one of those 3d puzzles for some reason.
Posted September 15, 2019
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richlind33: How many people believe that their development as human beings matters, or is even possible?

When you have no place to go in your life journey, a compass has no utility. We muddle through as best we can from one day to the next, never knowing that something beyond our wildest dreams lies in wait for us.
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BigBobsBeepers: You make some interesting points, as life is many times too short.

And I have to say I love your picture next to your name. It reminds me of one of those 3d puzzles for some reason.
I collect odd pics. I love them. ;p
Posted October 03, 2019
Even though I still have my original Half-Life 2 game, I do not have a (current) Steam account.

Hence, I do not have any temptation to buy anything from Steam.

I wouldn't buy anything I couldn't control, as per Gog. Even if I somehow lost all the games I now have, I would just do something else.
Posted October 03, 2019
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I've occasionally been tempted to buy something on GOG... but I've stuck to my principles and haven't bought anything from them in over two years.
Posted October 03, 2019
Censor is bad. Just a reminder. Especially whenever wisecracks try to fool gamers/buyers, play smart and stand in both grounds on one foot.
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Posted October 03, 2019
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Retroman88: First and foremost I am Anti-DRM, Anti-Suprise Mechanics - apologies - I mean Lootbox and ownership is a big deal for me. If it's available on GOG then I buy from GOG even if the cost is higher.
I do have a Steam account and lately I have been really tempted to buy Shadow of the Tomb Raider but I can't convince myself to do it knowing that I am only buying a license to play the game which I do not own a digital or physical copy of and obviously it has DRM.
So I am just curious really, have any of you in the GOG community been in the position that I am in at the moment where your principles are stopping you from doing something that my will actually enjoy?
Sometimes, but very rarely.....if I want a game and it is DRM free on steam(or can be made such) I will buy it on deep sale, and have even bought DRMd games with tamer DRM there and kept cracks on hand for if I ever needed them(if the store ever closed up).

Principles are admirable and all, but they take away more than they give(beyond peace of mind and a good feeling for the most part in many cases) & I feel the tradeoffs are not worth it for such good feelings only/mainly.

(This is not a dig at such people, or too much of one anyways. It's just how I feel)
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