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Again, another series He-Man, where the protagonist was changed to a female after the death of the hero the series should be all about. Or just pushed into the back, not even a support role like Picard.

Does anybody like this?
I see the "professional" critics love it. Not so much the viewers.
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It's all anti-White, just a way to erase history as usual.
The change itself is not a problem:

Hellsing features a female descendant of Van Helsing.
Witcher Saga focuses on Ciri instead of Geralt in later books.
X23 was a popular replacement for Wolverine.

All those were well received.

The problem with MotU: Revelations and other modern remakes is that they try to prop female replacements by making original male counterparts look bad one way or the other.

Funny enough, Teela also looks worse than in the original. And I don't just mean "feminist" haircut - she behaves as a spoiled and selfish moron.
Remakes are pretty easy to avoid. I think being a blind fan to a franchise has outstayed it's welcome since the 1970s. As for the Masters of the Universe series, I really enjoy Roboto's and Orko's story. Scare Glow's appearance was cool. For a free show, it was good but some of the fan made films were better.

I like the spin BSG (2004) took on the series. For a remake, I think BSG should be the gold standard.

I was hoping that when they tried to bring back He man they would brought back this guy instead and they would have had to deal with him for a season or two - https://i.postimg.cc/d1SjqrRy/d9p9wfu-e9e7b6ab-57fc-439b-a116-8269956cac31.jpg
Well, as someone who grew up with the original series and its reboots, I do like it so far. I watched it in a single sitting, something I rarely do with anything these days. And I liked that, despite being darker than all other animated versions, it is still much lighter than most adult oriented reimaginings/updates to characters from my childhood.

That said, I do think it will make it more clear who it was made for in Part 2. And it may happen to be the wrong target, I don't know, but I'm not very worried about it.

I've seen all the frustrated comments, but it's hard to say how many people are actually angry about it. People can be incredibly vocal online, even when they're not the majority. So it's hard to gauge how many people are actually angry (for me, at least).

Thing is, people seem to be oblivious to how storytelling works, or seem to be playing dumb because it fits their general agenda of being angry at shows for not being about exactly what they want.

Storywise, the show has been great at examining what happens when the hero (and villain) goes missing/dies and how the world carries on without it. Teela being at the center of the story is just the most obvious choice. If this was Batman, Dick Grayson would be the main character. But this is He-man. Robin just happens to be a woman*. And Teela is specially good for the role because she also happened to be the only one oblivious to He-man being Adam in the main cast and she's the sorceress daughter and heir, but doesn't know it. So you also get a good story about a character's vision of their world crumbling as well. It says right in the title: It's about the Masters of the Universe (Teela being the most proeminent character from the bunch with lot's of story beats to visit that also happen to connect directly to the show's greater lore) and about Revelations.

I do have some expectations for Part 2, from what I've seen so far:

I'm pretty sure Adam will feature more proeminently on Part 2, though probably in a more supportive capacity. I even expect him to lecture Teela about knowing who you are/being true to yourself when you're required to take upon a role of greater responsability (directly connecting to Teela's shown fear of disappearing into a role of greater importance and Adam's preference to being himself other than He-man in the afterlife). Yes, Adam, the teenager, is the dude with his shit together. Teela, the girl, is the one trying to grow and come to terms with reality and her responsabilities. And why she was kept in the dark is likely to be a plot point in Part 2 as well.

We'll probably see about as much He-man as in Part 1, but in a more active role and less as a flashback.

I'm guessing we'll see a Warrior/Sorceress version of Teela by the end of the show and she'll probably stand as an equal to He-man when fighting and defeating Skeletor.

Evil-Lynn is likely to help the heroes, secretly at first, fully by the end of the story. I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one to kill/banish Skeletor in the end, after he is defeated and removed from his powers. I expect the Sorceress or Duncan doing a heroic sacrifice early on (possibly leading into another they-died-but-got-better moment).

I also expect Orko to make a comeback. I haven't seen a definitive death with permanent consequences so far and Orko does not seem like the character to choose for that role and so early in the story. Yes, Adam and Moss-man died, but later were revealed to be a literal door away from being back into the land of the living. Roboto is a robot. I'd be surprised if at least one mention of rebuilding him doesn't happen by the end of the story. Adam being hurt at the end was a great way to do a cliffhanger, but I'm guessing the show won't even spend a lot of time healing him back (it could be a major plot point, but I think escaping the cluches of Skeletor will probably take precedence).

Again, these are all wild guesses based on what I've noticed from the story and what I know/understand from storytelling. We could end up wildly different things, some incredibly better, some way worse. But I don't think the show was made just to "destroy childhoods and satisfy woke agendas". As I said early on, I think the show will make it more clear who it was made for in Part 2, but so far, I haven't felt it wasn't made for me.


* In case you are thinking: "well, should have been about Duncan/Man-at-Arms then", no, he is Alfred, not Robin.
I'm so sick of remakes, wokeism, CGI and assembly line super hero drivel that I've started watching all the old classics instead.
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LootHunter: The change itself is not a problem:

Hellsing features a female descendant of Van Helsing.
Witcher Saga focuses on Ciri instead of Geralt in later books.
X23 was a popular replacement for Wolverine.

All those were well received.

The problem with MotU: Revelations and other modern remakes is that they try to prop female replacements by making original male counterparts look bad one way or the other.

Funny enough, Teela also looks worse than in the original. And I don't just mean "feminist" haircut - she behaves as a spoiled and selfish moron.
Kevin smith also lied about Motu setting plot .. And well everything .. attacked old fans and even attacked a person who got accurate truthfull information about this series a year ago abouts .. And he did this sort of thing before even

As for remakes in general including Motu the problem is people put on remakes don't even respect the source material and worse the fans .. Where they often make the new installments bad or just ''this thing in name only'' And attack the hand that feeds in this case those that would have supported the ip if not attacked ..

Heck for a prime example the She-ra series if the new staff hadn't attacked old fans,..the old ip and old IP staff as being all bad people or a bad show .. but they did all that and more
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Falci: Storywise, the show has been great at examining what happens when the hero (and villain) goes missing/dies and how the world carries on without it. Teela being at the center of the story is just the most obvious choice. If this was Batman, Dick Grayson would be the main character. But this is He-man. Robin just happens to be a woman*.
There's a couple problems with that analogy though. For one thing, when Batman died* it was just part of the ongoing comic, it wasn't in the long awaited, first new iteration of his adventures in almost 20 years. It's pretty easy to understand peopel are disappointed to be cheated out of their hero's promised return. Good or bad "the Teela show" just isn't what fans wanted, or what was promised.

Second, when we meet Dick Grayson in the story that deals with the fallout of Batman's "death" we're not introduced to him acting like an immature, self-absorbed asshole and bitching at Alfred, who is mourning his adopted sons death, about how everyone was such a jerk to him. And yet that's exactly what we get from Teela - Adam's parents just learned their son (her friend!) is dead, and what does she do? Throw a hissy fit and berate everyone about lieing to her, something that at this moment shoul no longer in any way, shape or form relevant to any decent person. So instead a show about He-Man, we get a show about his sideckick, who also happens to be as likeable as a hangover.

I'll, admit, I didn't watch the whole thing. And I won't be watching the second part. Maybe I'm not giving it a fair shot, but this show just doesn't seem fun to me, and I'm not even a He-Man fan. I wanted a fun sword and sorcery adventure, and instead I got this Last Jedi-like grim, disilusioned sequel, all angsty and unpleasant. We would have been better off with another season of the 2002 reboot. Sure, it wasn't exactly Batman The Animated Series, but at least it was a fun show about He-Man and Skeletor.

* Or more accurately "everyone thought he died but actually it's this super long nonsense story about time travel, clones and demons"
Post edited July 25, 2021 by Breja

Interesting take on what went wrong with MotU: Revelations here.
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Remakes don't have to be bad.
The problem is most of the time it's shitheads taking franchises they have no interest in and shamelessly shitting all over them with their 'ground-breaking ideas'.
They don't care that dozens or hundreds of people lovingly crafted a universe painstakingly over years.
It's all about the money.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by NuffCatnip
I never cared for He-Man, except for the memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyyTzkktjsI
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Arcadius-8606: Remakes are pretty easy to avoid. I think being a blind fan to a franchise has outstayed it's welcome since the 1970s. As for the Masters of the Universe series, I really enjoy Roboto's and Orko's story. Scare Glow's appearance was cool. For a free show, it was good but some of the fan made films were better.

I like the spin BSG (2004) took on the series. For a remake, I think BSG should be the gold standard.

I was hoping that when they tried to bring back He man they would brought back this guy instead and they would have had to deal with him for a season or two - https://i.postimg.cc/d1SjqrRy/d9p9wfu-e9e7b6ab-57fc-439b-a116-8269956cac31.jpg
Hello Arcadius

You are right, even thou I haven't seen the original, I like the remake of BSG. Probably due to it is made a long ago and not in the current trend.
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Falci: Storywise, the show has been great at examining what happens when the hero (and villain) goes missing/dies and how the world carries on without it. Teela being at the center of the story is just the most obvious choice.

I'm guessing we'll see a Warrior/Sorceress version of Teela by the end of the show and she'll probably stand as an equal to He-man when fighting and defeating Skeletor.
Hmm I think the main hero should remain especially if the series name contains the hero name He-Man and the Masters of the Universe and not Teela and the Masters of the Universe, but probably nobody would watch it that way so they kept the name. Like with Batwoman.

I guess she will be way stronger than Heman, and probably will be the remain the main hero of the remake series.
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Strijkbout: I never cared for He-Man, except for the memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyyTzkktjsI
same , it was over before i was born , I just liked the trailer it is awesome.
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youtu.be/81wyj65SJIo
looked like a cool anime
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Wait what? The new netflix thing doesn't have He-man? Wasn't he in the trailer.
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Breja: There's a couple problems with that analogy though. For one thing, when Batman died* it was just part of the ongoing comic, it wasn't in the long awaited, first new iteration of his adventures in almost 20 years. It's pretty easy to understand peopel are disappointed to be cheated out of their hero's promised return. Good or bad "the Teela show" just isn't what fans wanted, or what was promised.
I think this show has been marketed as the continuation/ending to the original show. I saw somewhere there's an actual He-man and the Masters of the Universe Netflix Reboot show coming somewhere in the future, but I don't remember the source, I haven't seen it anywhere else and it could very much be bullshit.

But as I mentioned before, it will take Part 2 for this show to tell who it is for, because I know and understand your point.
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Breja: Second, when we meet Dick Grayson in the story that deals with the fallout of Batman's "death" we're not introduced to him acting like an immature, self-absorbed asshole and bitching at Alfred, who is mourning his adopted sons death, about how everyone was such a jerk to him. And yet that's exactly what we get from Teela - Adam's parents just learned their son (her friend!) is dead, and what does she do? Throw a hissy fit and berate everyone about lieing to her, something that at this moment shoul no longer in any way, shape or form relevant to any decent person. So instead a show about He-Man, we get a show about his sideckick, who also happens to be as likeable as a hangover.
I had an acquaintance once tell me and a couple of mutual friends who were with us how she had to go through a lot of therapy as an adult to overcome the death of her father when she was a child and how that loss made her be angry at everyone very frequently and demand the absolute best from everyone at all times throughout her life up until she got therapy. My point being that different people deal with grief in different ways, more often than we like, being angry and complete jerks with everyone, specially loved ones.

In Teela's case, she is a fictional character, sure, and maybe she could have handled the situation better, but this scene wasn't just her being a bitch at random. It was her losing two of her best friends at the same time, and discovering that everything she knew was a lie. If you take into account the later scene where she reveals that she fears not being able to be herself because she must take upon someone else's role (which is exactly what she was doing at the start being promoted to Man-at-Arms, her father's role), you understand why she was even angrier and decided to quit on the spot. A lot of the rest of the show is about her dealing with these issues and getting her shit together. As I said before, if anything, Adam is depicted as the guy who has his shit together and knows who he is and that He-man (and the Power of Greyskull) is just his responsibility, not who he is (His struggling with this is actually a plot point in an episode of the 2002 series, where he wants to prove that he can be the hero without the power of Greyskull). It's worth noting that the series also depicts Teela still thinking highly of He-man while being angry at Adam, showing that she still can't process that they're both the same person (who, as Adam points out, is him who she knows, not an immaculate super hero figure like He-man represents to her) and that she subsequently, can't see herself as Man-at-Arms without losing herself and becoming her father. Which is an even more interesting thing to see her learn/overcome when we take into account that she's supposed to become the next Sorceress of Greyskull.

I'll admit, Dick Grayson may not be the best comparison, because Batman has plenty of Robins and, being the oldest, he is the one who is more mature than the rest. I think the story dealing with Bruce being crippled and choosing Azrael as replacement instead of Dick and how Grayson dealt with that ("Why am I not good enough to heir your mantle?") would probably be a better comparison. There's a similar storyline in the first Antman movie. It's a good story trope, but Teela's a bit opposite in that she's struggling to accept the roles, instead of being eager to accept them.
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Breja: I'll, admit, I didn't watch the whole thing. And I won't be watching the second part. Maybe I'm not giving it a fair shot, but this show just doesn't seem fun to me, and I'm not even a He-Man fan. I wanted a fun sword and sorcery adventure, and instead I got this Last Jedi-like grim, disilusioned sequel, all angsty and unpleasant. We would have been better off with another season of the 2002 reboot. Sure, it wasn't exactly Batman The Animated Series, but at least it was a fun show about He-Man and Skeletor.

* Or more accurately "everyone thought he died but actually it's this super long nonsense story about time travel, clones and demons"
I don't think it's as dark as it appears to be at first glance, but I'd suggest waiting for Part 2 and seeing what people talk about it before giving it a second chance. Mostly, because, as I said, this show will tell better who it is for, once Part 2 is out.

I liked The Last Jedi. But I'm 37 and I've lived through enough stuff to relate to Luke's arc about being disillusioned and faithless only to rediscover the passion and hope. And also loved the "You don't need to be an heir to a dynasty to be great, rise up to the challenge and do the right thing" message (that was ruined by The Rise of Skywalker *shrug*).
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Breja: Second, when we meet Dick Grayson in the story that deals with the fallout of Batman's "death" we're not introduced to him acting like an immature, self-absorbed asshole and bitching at Alfred, who is mourning his adopted sons death, about how everyone was such a jerk to him. And yet that's exactly what we get from Teela - Adam's parents just learned their son (her friend!) is dead, and what does she do? Throw a hissy fit and berate everyone about lieing to her, something that at this moment shoul no longer in any way, shape or form relevant to any decent person. So instead a show about He-Man, we get a show about his sideckick, who also happens to be as likeable as a hangover.
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Falci: I had an acquaintance once tell me and a couple of mutual friends who were with us how she had to go through a lot of therapy as an adult to overcome the death of her father when she was a child
Teela wasn't a child. She was a seasoned warrior, experienced enough to be promoted to the "Man-at-arms" position.

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Falci: It was her losing two of her best friends at the same time, and discovering that everything she knew was a lie.
What "everything"? Adam being He-man was the only thing she discovered. And this discovery hasn't changed much. It definitely wasn't on the "big evil is your father" or "you were manipulated all along" level. Yet, Teela left the entire kingdom to its fate, when it was needed her the most (with magic dying and stuff). It's one thing to have psychological issues and struggle with them and another just indulge in your own petty grudges at the expense of actual lives of actual people that depend on you.
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Antimateria: Wait what? The new netflix thing doesn't have He-man? Wasn't he in the trailer.
Trailer footage was only from the first episode. At the end of it He-man dies.
Post edited July 25, 2021 by LootHunter