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CMOT70: Anyway, my pet hate in modern gaming trends are the more psychological ones. The current generations "Emo whinge culture" infesting its way into gaming culture. "all games are trash, everything is trash, everything is too expensive, all genres I don't like are trash, all multiplayer games are trash, the world is trash, I'm trash, consoles are trash, anyone that plays with a controller is trash, I don't need to actually play any games to know they're trash because I watch every Jim Sterling video. Jim Sterling is trash, he was just a kid that got picked on for being fat and is now taking revenge by making you feel like him- trash.
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DadJoke007: This is so true. Sure, I think tons of things in the gaming industry is trash, but it's easy enough to just steer clear from things you dislike and just play things you enjoy. It seems like there's some kind of hate-hype that fires people up and they want to be a part of it. It's almost like someone hands down pamphlets over things to hate each week.

"Oh, tons of people hate this game I kind of enjoyed. Sure, it's not perfect, but I guess I'll hate it now. Death to X for producing Y!"
We all find fulfillment in proving/"knowing" we are better than others or disliking things to various extents....it's part of human nature, imo.
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ColJohnMatrix: - Politicizing games.
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Darvond: So on a differently weird tangent, how do you feel about games that are directly political?
Not him but I dislike them if they try pushing IRL politics into the game or putting that game world's variant of such in to the game and then pushing one stance as right and you MUST(or should) adhere to it and like it.

Case in point(sort of) - Modern Warfare 2....all the reloading screens(and the main plot) are stuff like partriotism/nationalism bad, globalism/no borders good type nonsense to where it's obvious the message they're trying to push.
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GameRager: As for pay 2 win: As long as the game can be won easily/fairly without paying then I have no problem with it as with lootboxes.
Unfortunately as soon as you put pay2win mechanics in games you basically incentivize the developer making such games artificially grindy to 'encourage' you to purchase "Time Saver" (pay2degrind) MT's. Even if it's possible to still win without them, is it still just as actually pleasant / fluidic to force-grind through a game designed that way (where core game mechanics are in-game MT advertising in themselves) vs how the same game would have otherwise been designed with lower grind ratios if there were no way for anyone to pay to speed up levelling and gamers were treated equally? (Or "maximising engagement" to use the correct industry-speak for the term). The other way of looking at it is of course "now you're paying for cheat codes that used to be free" which whether you use them or not, is still industry dumbing down in general.

This stuff already negatively affects everyone (including non-purchasers) but is worse when as soon as a few games are seen to be accepted for doing it, it's one of those things where it will inevitably become a larger trend that then has a whole negative industry wide effect, to which gamers will then only start to complain about 2 years too late to do anything about. See the unholy grind-fest mess that is the average mobile game with "In App Purchases" for which PC AAA's are now trying too hard to emulate with "Booster Pack" style MTs, etc, that also started off as "but it's just a couple of games doing this".
Post edited August 17, 2019 by AB2012
Everything stealing spotlight on twitch and such, aka competitive battle royal shooter moba and the likes.
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ColJohnMatrix: Complete lack of anything remotely approaching ergonomics for purposes of sitting in a chair at a computer for long periods of time. The requirements of a racecar & computer use are completely different. No professional office environment with heavy computer usage (EG - IT/Software engineering/Game industry) use them. Why do you think that is?. They're trendy & people just buy them to "look cool" when they really scream to the world "I'm 16!!" If you care about your body at all just spend the money on a good quality office chair instead. It's a much better investment.
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DetouR6734: *removes gaming chair bookmarks*

/s

On that note, i have been looking at ergo chairs for a while, what do you recommend? though i ain't spending the amount of a new PC on a ergo chair.
Dude just get an old recliner from the salvo's that ins't very threadbare & more importantly has a spring in the padded ass in it.
Make sure it reclines far enough to sleep in grab a hospital blanket and abuse the f^&k out of it till softer than your 1 ply toilet paper and get a pillar style round lamp table high enough not to be interfered with yet stay level with a comfortable horizontal position at the elbow.
Maybe a nice small back/neck pillow, a metal popcorn bucket and have a 1.2l drink bottle on a sling over the armrest.
Welcome to gaming bliss. :D
That everything needs to have 'a meaning' in the eyes of those covering it. Sometimes work can just be about having a blast.
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AB2012: Unfortunately as soon as you put pay2win mechanics in games you basically incentivize the developer making such games artificially grindy to 'encourage' you to purchase "Time Saver" (pay2degrind) MT's. Even if it's possible to still win without them, is it still just as actually pleasant / fluidic to force-grind through a game designed that way (where core game mechanics are in-game MT advertising in themselves) vs how the same game would have otherwise been designed with lower grind ratios if there were no way for anyone to pay to speed up levelling and gamers were treated equally? (Or "maximising engagement" to use the correct industry-speak for the term). The other way of looking at it is of course "now you're paying for cheat codes that used to be free" which whether you use them or not, is still industry dumbing down in general.

This stuff already negatively affects everyone (including non-purchasers) but is worse when as soon as a few games are seen to be accepted for doing it, it's one of those things where it will inevitably become a larger trend that then has a whole negative industry wide effect, to which gamers will then only start to complain about 2 years too late to do anything about. See the unholy grind-fest mess that is the average mobile game with "In App Purchases" for which PC AAA's are now trying too hard to emulate with "Booster Pack" style MTs, etc, that also started off as "but it's just a couple of games doing this".
To be fair & honest if they started making the game more grindy/etc to play without buying such pay2win items then i'd stop buying(if I even bought that many in the first place). I also see that it's not in many SP games and such, so for now i'm ok with it if it stays to the online battle royale games and the like. Let the kiddos buy into that if they use their own money & know what they're getting into, and i'll stay well away from it for the most part.

Now if it comes into most SP/etc games en masse then i'll start complaining.

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To the thread/in general: Dammit....why are all my posts here negged? I talk about GAMES(what the board is about) and I keep getting negged by some people who have nothing better to do than search out everything I write.

And those are the SAME people who mostly say to me: "This is a GAMING forum, you should talk about games"

Oh well....last bit of talk on that here by me.....I will not keep this up after this post.
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Linko64: That everything needs to have 'a meaning' in the eyes of those covering it. Sometimes work can just be about having a blast.
Jeremy from The Quartering just covered this, interestingly enough......as several "journalists" all put out pieces about how video games need to have messages in them at the exact same time("coincidentally"). One guy even said his kids could benefit at the polls from having such messages in their games.

Video here: I agree with him about how they don't just want games to have messages, but ones they AGREE with.....if games came out with messages they disliked or hated they would likely start complaining about being "forcefed" some message.
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Points of no return, where, after a certain point, you can't go back and explore the rest of the game to get things you missed.

One-time-only areas that you can't revisit. (Especially annoying when it's the final dungeon, like in TES: Arena (if I ever get that far.)
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dtgreene: Points of no return, where, after a certain point, you can't go back and explore the rest of the game to get things you missed.

One-time-only areas that you can't revisit. (Especially annoying when it's the final dungeon, like in TES: Arena (if I ever get that far.)
To be fair: points of no return mostly suck if they aren't marked as such or one has to find out about them when it's too late to stop them from happening. If one knows about them beforehand and can prevent them till they want to do them then they are ok(imo).
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ColJohnMatrix: - If you're willing to buy a chair that will outlive you, your PC, & probably the apocalypse, you can pick up overstock Herman Miller Aeron chairs on eBay for significant discounts. There's been some debate on its ergonomic properties, but I used to do years of 12-hour days programming in it with no discomfort. That said, there's probably better "true ergonomic" chairs at this point. Brand-new they run about $1300. You can get overstock (which are still new) for about half that if you look on Amazon or eBay. IIRC I paid $900 for mine.
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fr33kSh0w2012: You spent $900 on a chair. Christ.
You seem to have some reading comprehension problems if that's all you got out of my post. But I don't expect non-professionals or people without the means to buy what's actually best or even good for them without compromise & meets rigorous goals to understand.

BTW - That's the discount price. Standard retail on Herman Miller Aeron is about $1300.
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fr33kSh0w2012: You spent $900 on a chair. Christ.
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ColJohnMatrix: You seem to have some reading comprehension problems if that's all you got out of my post. But I don't expect non-professionals or people without the means to buy what's actually best or even good for them without compromise & meets rigorous goals to understand.

BTW - That's the discount price. Standard retail on Herman Miller Aeron is about $1300.
No, that wasn't all.

It's just stupid that you pay so much for JUST a chair, 1 chair I can deck a whole house out for next to peanuts and you WASTE 900 bucks on a chair $1300 that is totally bullshit.

Also you can cut that Smart ass up yours attitude, Literally how old are you Justin are you 12?
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fr33kSh0w2012: No, that wasn't all.

It's just stupid that you pay so much for JUST a chair, 1 chair I can deck a whole house out for next to peanuts and you WASTE 900 bucks on a chair $1300 that is totally bullshit.

Also you can cut that Smart ass up yours attitude, Literally how old are you Justin are you 12?
Lol Sorry to hear you're poor, cheap, or whatever other psychological disorder/cognitive biases you have.
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fr33kSh0w2012: No, that wasn't all.

It's just stupid that you pay so much for JUST a chair, 1 chair I can deck a whole house out for next to peanuts and you WASTE 900 bucks on a chair $1300 that is totally bullshit.

Also you can cut that Smart ass up yours attitude, Literally how old are you Justin are you 12?
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ColJohnMatrix: Lol Sorry to hear you're poor, cheap, or whatever other psychological disorder/cognitive biases you have.
Aww... How cute ad hominem attacks again, No not poor or cheap no psychological disorders or cognitive biases at all I just know a RIP OFF when I see one you got conned Kid!

Have you heard of the Steelcase Leap look it up!

https://store.steelcase.com/seating/office-chairs/leap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqQjNYx-Eyw

Also even Mirra is not a bad seat, But steelcase is STILL BETTER!

http://johnmee.com/chair-review-aeron-vs-leap

Do your homework before shooting you god damn mouth of Justin!
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fr33kSh0w2012: You spent $900 on a chair. Christ.
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ColJohnMatrix: You seem to have some reading comprehension problems if that's all you got out of my post. But I don't expect non-professionals or people without the means to buy what's actually best or even good for them without compromise & meets rigorous goals to understand.

BTW - That's the discount price. Standard retail on Herman Miller Aeron is about $1300.
The dude made a comment that that is a high price for a chair a month ago, just to show how crazy it is to some.....no need to be upset or smug about it. :\

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fr33kSh0w2012: Also you can cut that Smart ass up yours attitude, Literally how old are you Justin are you 12?
Now now....no need for insults.
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ColJohnMatrix: You seem to have some reading comprehension problems if that's all you got out of my post. But I don't expect non-professionals or people without the means to buy what's actually best or even good for them without compromise & meets rigorous goals to understand.

BTW - That's the discount price. Standard retail on Herman Miller Aeron is about $1300.
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GameRager: The dude made a comment that that is a high price for a chair a month ago, just to show how crazy it is to some.....no need to be upset or smug about it. :\

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fr33kSh0w2012: Also you can cut that Smart ass up yours attitude, Literally how old are you Justin are you 12?
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GameRager: Now now....no need for insults.
Yeah that was what I was getting from the way he typed it!