AB2012: Unfortunately as soon as you put pay2win mechanics in games you basically incentivize the developer making such games artificially grindy to 'encourage' you to purchase "Time Saver" (pay2degrind) MT's. Even if it's possible to still win without them, is it still just as actually pleasant / fluidic to force-grind through a game designed that way (where core game mechanics are in-game MT advertising in themselves) vs how the same game would have otherwise been designed with lower grind ratios if there were no way for anyone to pay to speed up levelling and gamers were treated equally? (Or
"maximising engagement" to use the correct industry-speak for the term). The other way of looking at it is of course
"now you're paying for cheat codes that used to be free" which whether you use them or not, is still industry dumbing down in general.
This stuff already negatively affects everyone (including non-purchasers) but is worse when as soon as a few games are seen to be accepted for doing it, it's one of those things where it will inevitably become a larger trend that then has a whole negative industry wide effect, to which gamers will then only start to complain about 2 years too late to do anything about. See the unholy grind-fest mess that is the average mobile game with "In App Purchases" for which PC AAA's are now trying too hard to emulate with "Booster Pack" style MTs, etc, that also started off as
"but it's just a couple of games doing this".
To be fair & honest if they started making the game more grindy/etc to play without buying such pay2win items then i'd stop buying(if I even bought that many in the first place). I also see that it's not in many SP games and such, so for now i'm ok with it if it stays to the online battle royale games and the like. Let the kiddos buy into that if they use their own money & know what they're getting into, and i'll stay well away from it for the most part.
Now if it comes into most SP/etc games en masse then i'll start complaining.
======================== To the thread/in general: Dammit....why are all my posts here negged? I talk about GAMES(what the board is about) and I keep getting negged by some people who have nothing better to do than search out everything I write.
And those are the SAME people who mostly say to me: "This is a GAMING forum, you should talk about games"
Oh well....last bit of talk on that here by me.....I will not keep this up after this post.
========================= Linko64: That everything needs to have 'a meaning' in the eyes of those covering it. Sometimes work can just be about having a blast.
Jeremy from The Quartering just covered this, interestingly enough......as several "journalists" all put out pieces about how video games need to have messages in them at the exact same time("coincidentally"). One guy even said his kids could benefit
at the polls from having such messages in their games.
Video here:
I agree with him about how they don't just want games to have messages, but ones they AGREE with.....if games came out with messages they disliked or hated they would likely start complaining about being "forcefed" some message.