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Posted October 07, 2015
Year>Month>Day should be the norm, as it's perfect for sorting stuff.
Posted October 07, 2015
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Crosmando:
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Marioface5: another way of looking at it is that there's an indefinite amount of years, up to 31 days in a month, and only 12 months in a year. With that viewpoint, M/D/Y makes more sense.
Do you mean they're ordered by.. max value? lol
Posted October 07, 2015
I did a double take upon reading how recent this thread is. I've had Windows 10 for since just shortly after it was availed to the public. I seriously thought this was a months old necro.
Posted October 07, 2015
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Ikarugamesh: Year>Month>Day should be the norm, as it's perfect for sorting stuff.
^ This
Post edited October 07, 2015 by phaolo
Posted October 07, 2015
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Marioface5: another way of looking at it is that there's an indefinite amount of years, up to 31 days in a month, and only 12 months in a year. With that viewpoint, M/D/Y makes more sense.
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phaolo: Do you mean they're ordered by.. max value? lol
Yes, just like hours and minutes are.
Posted October 07, 2015
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phaolo: Do you mean they're ordered by.. max value? lol
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Marioface5: Yes, just like hours and minutes are.
Uh no, they're ordered by.. err.. magnitude?
Posted October 07, 2015
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GabiMoro: You mean the date is set in format month / day / year instead of the more logically day / month / year. Yeah it pisses me of too.

I'm just kidding.
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Crosmando:
Ha, you don't know how funny that is. I deal with large amounts of data daily and one real annoyance (other than not being able to say aluminium properly) is mixed up dates. Its very simple day is a subset of month which is a subset of year. :o)
Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: Most of the time, the year isn't something we even bother to print. The year goes at the end because it's optional.

If it's not obvious, I wish we'd do it right and put the year at the beginning like the Chinese do. But, placing them from smallest to largest makes little sense other than to satisfy a compulsion. I genuinely can't think of any other reason for ordering them like that.

EDIT: Anyways, the reason why it's MM/DD/YY is because when we write the date out long hand, it's October 1st, 2015 and such. Month, day, year.
It`s the same reason you mentioned, because, like year, sometimes month is not worth mentioning.
"- when have you sent the report?
- on the 5th. "

It's clear that the report have been sent on 5 October this year. And if it was said 28, then it should be clear that it was 28 September this year, because otherwise the month would have been mentioned.
So, we sometimes use DD/MM or DD/MM/YYYY because, as you said, we write the date out long hand, but after seeing the first numbers (the day) I already know what I`m looking for.

The most annoying thing is when I see something like 05/06/2015, I don't know if it`s 05th of June (how it should be) or the one who wrote it is frigging american, and it`s 06th of May (no offense to yankees :P).
Posted October 07, 2015
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GabiMoro: You mean the date is set in format month / day / year instead of the more logically day / month / year. Yeah it pisses me of too.

I'm just kidding.
That bloody format irritates me to no end really. My Microsoft Office files often get messed up upon because I naturally write on DDMMYYYY format then suddenly they switch to MMDDYYYY when I login on different PCs next day.
Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: Well, no, not really. Putting the day first makes absolutely no sense. It's like those arguments where people claim that the metric system is more logical despite there being absolutely no logic to it.

Day first is completely wrong. Whether you think month or year should come first is a matter of perspective and opinion, but putting day first is completely wrong. For societies like the Chinese that have a long history, putting the year first makes some sense. For countries like the US where things tend to change yearly, placing the month first makes sense.

But, in no part of the world do things change so rapidly that putting the day first makes sense. It just makes the dates a huge jumble and sorting them a complete pain in the arse.

If you just want a date format and don't actually want to ever manipulate it, then it does have a sort of meta-logic to it. But, the moment you actually want to do things with it and parse it out, the format fails.
What doesn't change daily, I mean things like the weather, calenders, stock prices? What a daft statement, maybe we should just drop any form of measurement under a month? As for format of dates, well a brief check of the oracle of all wisdom (/sarcasm) wikipedia shows that population counts:
3295 mil, use DMY
1660 mil, use YMD
320 mil, use MDY
Or perhaps I should just wrap the first two up as "Rest of World"?
Posted October 07, 2015
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GabiMoro: You mean the date is set in format month / day / year instead of the more logically day / month / year. Yeah it pisses me of too.

I'm just kidding.
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zeroxxx: That bloody format irritates me to no end really. My Microsoft Office files often get messed up upon because I naturally write on DDMMYYYY format then suddenly they switch to MMDDYYYY when I login on different PCs next day.
I have just seen a "1" on my account. I wonder what is it? .......Oh, one game in my library was updated. Hmm, let`s check it out..... it`s Bauldur`s Gate (intended). Changelog: a patch for the Mac version. Date: 10.07.2015. Are you kidding me?
Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: EDIT: Anyways, the reason why it's MM/DD/YY is because when we write the date out long hand, it's October 1st, 2015 and such. Month, day, year. Europeans to be kind of cute decided that they needed to order it by size. Then they chose the wrong one.
:-P
In Europe we write down 1st October 2015.

That is because when we whould make a meeting we whould simplay say "We meet at the 1st". If the 1st is already past in this month it is clear that we meet at the next month.

We whould never say "We meet at the November, 1st". And the Americans whould also say "We meet at the 1st November". Whouldn't you?

But it is clear that everbody find the system they are born with much easier. E.g. untill know I'm never sure if it is 12pm or 12am. But I know the difference between 0:00 and 24:00.
Posted October 07, 2015
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GabiMoro: You mean the date is set in format month / day / year instead of the more logically day / month / year. Yeah it pisses me of too.

I'm just kidding.
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Maighstir: YYYY-MM-DD, the only correct date format. Get it right, heathen!
Agree! :D
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Arghmage: But it is clear that everbody find the system they are born with much easier. E.g. untill know I'm never sure if it is 12pm or 12am. But I know the difference between 0:00 and 24:00.
That is super confusing. Especially when someone from 'murica tells you that something is happening at midnight. BUT WHICH MIDNIGHT?! Had this happen a few times. :/

At least here it is generally know that if you say "on Saturday midnight" or something similar, it refers to the midnight between Saturday and Sunday... NOT THE ONE ON WHICH SATURDAY STARTS.

Oj, world, get things right!
Post edited October 07, 2015 by Elenarie
Posted October 07, 2015
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nightcraw1er.488:
Countires that use the Imperial system

USA, Liberia and Maynmar.

The metre, for length – defined as being one ten millionth of the distance between the North Pole and the Equator through Paris
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system
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JMich: Uninstall KB3035583.
BTW, thanks for this. I wanted to do it one of these days
Post edited October 07, 2015 by phandom
Posted October 07, 2015
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djranis: lol americans, always wanted to be different, color, miles, football(they use their bloody hands)
The sport you call football was called so because it was played on foot rather than on a horse. It designated it as the common man's game since most could not afford horses. It has NOTHING at all to do with using your feet. The name soccer is also a British invention, short for association.
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