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Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: The main problem with putting the day before the month is increased cognitive load and it breaking sort algorithms. When I'm confronted with MM/DD for posts, I immediately know whether they happened close to each other or far away. If, I'm confronted with DD/MM, then I have to ignore the first number to look at the second. Then I have to go back to the first number. It's a lot of unnecessary work.
You are right, MM/DD is more logical, same as hour/minutes. The problem is not MM/DD, but the YY put after MM/DD which make it worse than DD/MM/YY.
Posted October 07, 2015
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GabiMoro: Year, month and day or day, month and year. Everything else has no sense.
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Charon121: I agree. The reverse order is especially useful in computing since non-specialised software will automatically sort dates in the correct order if written as 20151007 or 20101231. The existence of different separators (. and /) only adds to the confusion.
Basically YY-MM-DD > MM-DD-YY > DD-MM-YY. The last one is particularly obnoxious because if you remove the separators, then you have this rather annoying amount of work to do in order to reorder it whenever you want to use it.

You have to remove the last 2 digits and append them to the beginning and then repeat that again. With MM-DD-YY, you only have to do that once, assuming that you're not interested in sorting by month.

I'm not even sure what kind of a mind it was that said, we'll order from smallest to largest and never mind that it makes basically everything more annoying, that's what we'll do.
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hedwards: The main problem with putting the day before the month is increased cognitive load and it breaking sort algorithms. When I'm confronted with MM/DD for posts, I immediately know whether they happened close to each other or far away. If, I'm confronted with DD/MM, then I have to ignore the first number to look at the second. Then I have to go back to the first number. It's a lot of unnecessary work.
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GabiMoro: You are right, MM/DD is more logical, same as hour/minutes. The problem is not MM/DD, but the YY put after MM/DD which make it worse than DD/MM/YY.
Most of the time, the year isn't something we even bother to print. The year goes at the end because it's optional.

If it's not obvious, I wish we'd do it right and put the year at the beginning like the Chinese do. But, placing them from smallest to largest makes little sense other than to satisfy a compulsion. I genuinely can't think of any other reason for ordering them like that.

At least with the SI units, there are things that are improved with their use.


EDIT: Anyways, the reason why it's MM/DD/YY is because when we write the date out long hand, it's October 1st, 2015 and such. Month, day, year. Europeans to be kind of cute decided that they needed to order it by size. Then they chose the wrong one.
:-P
Post edited October 07, 2015 by hedwards
Posted October 07, 2015
I like YYYY/MM/DD, for me that's logical, along with HH:mm:SS
Posted October 07, 2015
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Maighstir: YYYY-MM-DD, the only correct date format. Get it right, heathen!
Seconded! Perfect for sorting.
Posted October 07, 2015
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djranis: lol americans, always wanted to be different, color, miles, football(they use their bloody hands)
Gridiron is the dumbest shit, those shoulder pads lol it's like playing wow
Posted October 07, 2015
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Maighstir: YYYY-MM-DD, the only correct date format. Get it right, heathen!
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toxicTom: Seconded! Perfect for sorting.
Now that that's settled. I motion that a day be composed of 20 hours and each hour be composed of 100 minutes and each minute be composed of 100 seconds.

All in favor, say aye.
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djranis: lol americans, always wanted to be different, color, miles, football(they use their bloody hands)
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Crosmando: Gridiron is the dumbest shit, those shoulder pads lol it's like playing wow
Have you ever had to make an open-field tackle, mate? Without those pads, you'd have people being killed every game. One of the players in a recent game was clocked running 21 MPH, you try hitting something going 35mph without any body armor and see if you survive.

:-P
Post edited October 07, 2015 by hedwards
Posted October 07, 2015
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toxicTom: Seconded! Perfect for sorting.
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hedwards: Now that that's settled. I motion that a day be composed of 20 hours and each hour be composed of 100 minutes and each minute be composed of 100 seconds.

All in favor, say aye.
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Crosmando: Gridiron is the dumbest shit, those shoulder pads lol it's like playing wow
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hedwards: Have you ever had to make an open-field tackle, mate? Without those pads, you'd have people being killed every game. One of the players in a recent game was clocked running 21 MPH, you try hitting something going 35mph without any body armor and see if you survive.

:-P
The answer is to play gentlemanly, civilized sport like Cricket.
Posted October 07, 2015
What the fuck are you arguing about?
That problem was solved long ago: ISO 8601
Learn it. Live it. Love it.
Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: Now that that's settled. I motion that a day be composed of 20 hours and each hour be composed of 100 minutes and each minute be composed of 100 seconds.

All in favor, say aye.

Have you ever had to make an open-field tackle, mate? Without those pads, you'd have people being killed every game. One of the players in a recent game was clocked running 21 MPH, you try hitting something going 35mph without any body armor and see if you survive.

:-P
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Crosmando: The answer is to play gentlemanly, civilized sport like Cricket.
LOL, can you imagine how much trouble we'd get into with that much time to drink? Baseball games are bad enough for folks getting boozed up, imagine if we had the kind of time that you get with cricket to just drink.
Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: Now that that's settled. I motion that a day be composed of 20 hours and each hour be composed of 100 minutes and each minute be composed of 100 seconds.

All in favor, say aye.
Hey I need more hours a day, not less... a lot more. :-P

Also, since time is based on Earth's rotation, its units should be based on 360°, which they are, if a little odd (1h = 15° of 1d, 1m = 6° of 1h)
Posted October 07, 2015
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blotunga: I like YYYY/MM/DD, for me that's logical, along with HH:mm:SS
Hm, personally, I prefer MM:SS:HH. For example, currently it's 13:45:19.
Posted October 07, 2015
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toxicTom: Seconded! Perfect for sorting.
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hedwards: Now that that's settled. I motion that a day be composed of 20 hours and each hour be composed of 100 minutes and each minute be composed of 100 seconds.

All in favor, say aye.
Nay.
Posted October 07, 2015
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Austrobogulator: Hm, personally, I prefer MM:SS:HH. For example, currently it's 13:45:19.
I mean the same descending order...
Posted October 07, 2015
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hedwards: It's like those arguments where people claim that the metric system is more logical despite there being absolutely no logic to it.
Excuse me, what?
There is no logic in your argument that the metric system has no logic :P
Posted October 07, 2015
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Austrobogulator: Hm, personally, I prefer MM:SS:HH. For example, currently it's 13:45:19.
Holly shit, you are giving me a headache.


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Maighstir: YYYY-MM-DD, the only correct date format. Get it right, heathen!
See you in hell, Maighstir :P
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