so i am looking to upgrade my pc on ebay and came across some cheap pc
but i do not really understand specs much
current pc

Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5500 @ 2.80GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Windows 10 Home 64-bit

the pc i am looking at

Lenovo ThinkCentre M81 i3-2100 3.10GHz 8GB 250GB Windows 10

You didn't mention the GPU (graphic card) of the systems. That is the most important component for gaming. But from what you list there, the second system is somewhat faster (more recent CPU, twice as much RAM).

2 nd is better, but you still need a decent dedicated graphic card, that's the most important component for gaming.

Probably doesn't even have a discrete GPU. You should really post a link.

Can you list some examples of the types of games you'd like to play? That will help determine priorities.

i3-2100 > E5500, also 8 > 4 RAM.

I usually use benchmarks as a guide.

For example, https://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Intel Pentium E5500 @ 2.80GHz = 1,638
Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz = 3,673

So computes more than twice as fast.

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The graphics card is more important..
Any higher end games just won't run well without a dedicated graphics card of some type.
Integrated graphics are usually not very good even on a better system.

I just had my R9 290 die and am stuck with integrated graphics for the moment.
My graphics capability is cut down to a tenth of what it was.
Many games I cannot play right now until my new system comes in the middle of January.

That model you list comes normally with:
Integrated Graphics Adapter (Intel HD Graphics 2000)
and possibly a ATI Radeon HD5450 which rates 232 on this chart
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/midlow_range_gpus.html

would be really helpful if you could post a link to the system (if it's sold on an onlinestore) so we can get infos about the GPU and dtermine if it'S a fair price. Also knowing your budget would help. As posted above knowing the games you want to play in the future might be a huge help as well to decide which system might be sufficient for you in the future

Here's a link I found

It only has an integrated HD Intel Graphic, so not worth getting it, especially since the hard drive is not even SATA. Same can be said about Ram, it's DDR3, not DDR4, and that's what you need.
If it was me, I would have saved a little more cash, and buy a decent middle-range system, but hey, it's your choice in the end.

Okay - i just did some reseach:
https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/solutions/pd013522 - this is the model we are talking about

So in this case we are talking about a second generation I3 with 3MB Cache
DDR 3 Ram running on 1333MHz
And either way a Intel HD2000 or (rather unlikely) a HD5450 which is rather bad as well.

So ya what's the asking price for the system? (for which price do you expect to get it on ebay?)

Also what would be your highest budget you could/can afford for an alternative system?

Honestly i wouldn't recommend that system at all unless you more or less can get it for free and/or if your financial situation is that stressed that you can't afford anything else. While the system is better than your current one it will still have serious limitations and almost 0% upgradeability and even if going for a dedicated GPU it still might be "bottlenecked"

So If you are able to afford 300-400$ i would definitely recommend another system ( maybe built it yourself arround the Pentium G4560 which costs about 80$ and a corresponding motherboard which can be bought for 40-50$ and 8GB DDR4 Ram for about 80$ ((sadly memory prices are crazy right now)) - which would leave you at 200$ for Mainboard, Ram and CPU if you are able to reuse your old case and PSU) and would enable you to afford a "decent" mid level GPU like the GTX 1050TI for 150$. (Case and PSU could be bougt for about 30$ if you are not able to recyle the old ones

If you are going the integrated graphics solution make sure it at least supports dx11 which most games impose these days.


i have got a laptop with intel hd 3000 and its stuck in limbo because intel declined to give it dx11 /opengl 3.3 support , most of the older games and non dx11 run alright with lowest settings but those which require dx11 flat out crash.

the same problem with open gl most games ask for open gl 3.3 and this does not have that.

It is much better (and cheaper) to buy separate PC parts and just build PC. It is not so hard.

I agree with this. There's tons of people on here who can help you build a budget pc with much better specs, and take it from me, putting one together is a lot easier than you'd think.

It has....but not on Windows, only OSX and Linux. Does it matter as it only has a meager 6 EUs.

The PSU that comes with it is hardly capable of supporting anything but the most frugal GPUs.

That pc might be an OK buy, if you really cannot afford better, if you can get it for under $200, preferrably not more than $100. You will most likely need a graphics card (GPU) too, preferrably not worse than a 1050 from nVidia (AMD too expensive here but maybe it could be viable over there). Know that a new computer would be about double as fast even if we talk lower medium class.