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Dalthnock: I live and work in a tourist area.

I've seen you guys drive. I've been behind many an "I" license plate in traffic.

You people got nothing on the Spaniards.
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real.geizterfahr: Italians behind a wheel have some kind of "reverse hive mind". The more there are the worse their driving gets. Just visit Italy and you'll see what I mean :P
Yeah, I've heard so much about the Italian driving, that I always end up positively surprised when I'm stuck behind one.

I guess this means that they at least know how to drive properly, and are courteous enough to use that knowledge while visiting abroad.

It makes sense, and I applaud them for it.

They do have the right to be complete savages in their own country, of course.
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Clearly nothing has changed in these forums. The bullies continue to bully people and insult them whenever they fell like it. Then downvote every post to hell. I see every one of you hypocritical jerks downvoting my posts while those bullying and harassing others have their posts untouched.

I hope every single one of you jerks dies in a fire!
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PaterAlf: The second sentence makes it extremely clear that they used this prominent hashtag on purpose.
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immi101: yes, because it was trending. simple marketing trick. you never followed some popular hash tag and wondered why you suddenly see so many advertising tweets using that hash tag ?
i mean there are a whole lot of strategy/advisories written on how to take advantage of trending hastags for your own advertising.

It seems far fetched to me to construct a narrative that GOG (or CDPR) is trying to promote some transphobic agenda here.
Yes, but still you should know what the hashtags mean when you want to use them to your advantage.

And I don't think they wanted to promote a transphobic agenda. But in a way they mocked a movement that fights for human and civil rights. And I can see why people have a problem with that.
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I see that that real.geizterfahr has his posts upvoted. A perfect example of what is wrong with this forum, when some jerk feels he can directly insult other users and the rest of the fools who upvote him for breaking the forum rules.

You have no right to bully and harass other users nor insult them telling them they should leave the forum. That is direct unadulterated harassment. And anyone who supports this is as morally corrupt as they come.

Once again the forum shows exactly how immature and mob like they really are.
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RWarehall: I hope every single one of you jerks dies in a fire!
Yea. Really mature, RW. I usually stay out of these 'discussions' and I usually like you. But complaining about harassment while at the same time wishing death on other people is very, very hypocritical!
Are you guys really this desprerate to have discussions on the internet with random strangers?

Christ, games like Postal 2 could never get made these days.. Not the way everything has to be controversial and heavily discussed to death

It's boring as hell

Edit: just to eleborate, yes postal was considered controversial back in its day, difference is it would of gotten pulled off the market in these current times

And to further eleborate, the tweet was removed now and they issued an apology.. This isn't going to spell the end of GOG, give it a month and all of you will of forgotten all about this and moved onto the next "big thing" to have needless discussions about

All this over a HASHTAG, lol these people who were born with fast speed broadband in their life must of gone through a sheltered life or something because this is just cringey
Post edited October 24, 2018 by KP1990
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RWarehall: I hope every single one of you jerks dies in a fire!
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Lifthrasil: Yea. Really mature, RW. I usually stay out of these 'discussions' and I usually like you. But complaining about harassment while at the same time wishing death on other people is very, very hypocritical!
Give him a break. I think he has a disorder that makes him overly sensitive? I swore I read that somewhere. If not, I apologize rwarehall.
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RWarehall: I hope every single one of you jerks dies in a fire!
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Lifthrasil: Yea. Really mature, RW. I usually stay out of these 'discussions' and I usually like you. But complaining about harassment while at the same time wishing death on other people is very, very hypocritical!
Whatever, this forum is full of hypocrites. I guess you support that jerk in specifically calling other forum users out who were not even part of the discussion? I hope jerks like him get what they deserve. Karma is a bitch.
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Lifthrasil: Yea. Really mature, RW. I usually stay out of these 'discussions' and I usually like you. But complaining about harassment while at the same time wishing death on other people is very, very hypocritical!
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RWarehall: Whatever, this forum is full of hypocrites. I guess you support that jerk in specifically calling other forum users out who were not even part of the discussion? I hope jerks like him get what they deserve. Karma is a bitch.
I don't feel like reading walls of text

So could you please eleborate on what these people said to make you want to wish death on them? You know, the random strangers on the internet that you don't even know

They must of said some pretty horrible things for you to wish death on them.. Either that or you're melodramatic like most people nowadays
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firstpastthepost: I see there really is no point beleaguering the point with you. I will agree to disagree on this point. I'm not being naive, I just think that it's not constructive to use terms that are intended to be used as insults. Decorum and civility should mean something.
I see that term as being specifically descriptive in this instance. It describes precisely what they did and reasonable people can see that. Policing others properly used words and phrases is "not an argument". Can you come up with a better phrase to describe what that company did by pulling out of GoG and grossly publicizing the reason for everyone else to hear? I can't.
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RWarehall: I see that term as being specifically descriptive in this instance. It describes precisely what they did and reasonable people can see that. Policing others properly used words and phrases is "not an argument". Can you come up with a better phrase to describe what that company did by pulling out of GoG and grossly publicizing the reason for everyone else to hear? I can't.
I know I said I was done, but after seeing your increasing temper tantrum towards the others I think it's important to point something out.

It wasn't fair of them to gang up on you the way they did. It wasn't particularly nice and it wasn't warranted. But come on man, you're obviously causing your own problems here, my discussion with you was proof positive of that. You are argumentative, rude and unwilling to yield even the slightest bit or disengage. They wouldn't be bothering you if you were willing to disengage.
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firstpastthepost: I know I said I was done, but after seeing your increasing temper tantrum towards the others I think it's important to point something out.

It wasn't fair of them to gang up on you the way they did. It wasn't particularly nice and it wasn't warranted. But come on man, you're obviously causing your own problems here, my discussion with you was proof positive of that. You are argumentative, rude and unwilling to yield even the slightest bit or disengage. They wouldn't be bothering you if you were willing to disengage.
I see...funny. You keep replying and insisting you are right. I made my point and stand by that phrase being the most direct and appropriate for the situation. I can think of no better phrase for what Zombie Orpheus Entertainment has done except "virtue signalling and i'm sure normal people see the truth in those words. You have offered no alternatives. Instead of discussing the issue, you have shifted the debate to straight insults. It says much about you.
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Star_Ocean: Zombie Orpheus Entertainment (Dark Dungeons, The Gamers, JourneyQuest, etc.) just pulled all of their films from the catalog
And nothing of value was lost.
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RWarehall: When someone intentionally misconstrues and misinforms, they are virtue signaling. There were not 3 transphobic tweets at all. One of them never addresses the issue in any way at all, yet they mislead claiming its a trend. Unless you want to explain to me simply how a video clip from the game Postal 2 pissing on "Games Journalism" is transphobic? I think any rational person sees the sense in what I have to say even if you somehow don't...
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firstpastthepost: I don't see how you believe it's rational that you think you are capable of reading someone's mind. You can't possible know that they are intentionally misconstruing the content of the tweet. That is impossible for you to know, unless they said that, which they didn't. You can think their reaction is irrational. I agree, it's not a rational decision on their part to come to the conclusion that they did, but you are really missing my point here.

My point isn't that they are justified in their actions, my point is that calling them virtue signallers is stupid if you don't know what their motivations actually are. You can't gleen that from their public posts. You can have your opinion about whether or not it's right, but you can't project motivations on another entity when you don't know what they are. It's dumb term, that is overused by people who don't have legitimate complaints. It's the right wing equivalent of someone on the left calling a person a fascist. It's lazy and doesn't actually help the discussion in any way.
Virtue signalling in the classic definition is any public expression of moral values that costs resources(usually a significant amount). Motivation is irrelevant.

Virtue signalling as an insult is any public expression of moral values through largely empty gestures. Motivation is once again irrelevant. Seeing as the movies were removed and it was publicly broadcasted as such it fits the latter definition perfectly - given that the movie section of GoG is hardly a moneymaker.
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tremere110: Virtue signalling in the classic definition is any public expression of moral values that costs resources(usually a significant amount). Motivation is irrelevant.

Virtue signalling as an insult is any public expression of moral values through largely empty gestures. Motivation is once again irrelevant. Seeing as the movies were removed and it was publicly broadcasted as such it fits the latter definition perfectly - given that the movie section of GoG is hardly a moneymaker.
ugh... what is with you people. I was making a point that it was unfair to judge them as you don't know their motivations. That is my opinion and it's a valid opinion. You see it differently and that's fine, it's valid for you to have that opinion. I was working from the Cambridge definition of "virtue signalling" and based on that my interpretation is correct as that definition has the action being done to gain favour with a particular group and not for any other motive. Again, if you're defining it in a different way that's fine. I don't care.

I wasn't agreeing with the actions of the company in question, I think they're stupid from a business standpoint, but I also don't pretend like I know why people do the things they do.

The irony of this is that a bunch of people here are outraged about the outrage of this company and are essentially blind to that. I was trying to encourage a more civilized discussion, which apparently is a pointless pursuit.