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gamesfreak64: i dont like it but i never said it sucks, and you cant take the general phrase we been calling all our lives: "windows sucks" serious.
I never said you said it sucks.
Post edited September 17, 2015 by monkeydelarge
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gamesfreak64: i dont like it but i never said it sucks, and you cant take the general phrase we been calling all our lives: "windows sucks" serious.
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monkeydelarge: I never said you said it sucks.
true, but i also never said that you said that i said that you said i said win 10 sucks , but its okay cause each windows kinda sucks we have to admit that :D

BlueScreensOfDead )bsod) corrupt user profiles, i had that happening a lot in the win95 period , esp. bsods
lateron win98SE became better, then i had win 2k for a while, and XP, good old Xp, i hated that one cause my old win2K was easier to control, but once i jumped into XP i learned to know it and then win7 came i was mad about win7, and now Xp is ++++, win7 is active windows i use now and soon to be also among the ';living dead'
because they had to force win10 so soon on us :D

Anyway, you learn to handle the 'problemchild' that windows is , has been and alway will be, but
now with the killing of privacy, things have changed, i dont mind bugs, bsods, but i do value Privacy a lot, and win10 is kinda 'violating' that by default.

So the privacy violation is my biggest issue with mickeysofts win10, ow and the metrointrface sux aswell it doesnt work with mouse.

So if MString returns our Privacy and keeps respecting that no, removes the keyboard loggers and E.T staff, and an option to not have that ugly tiled metro interface then win10 might have a chance.


Mickeysoft and any other software company should be making stuff we like, not what they would like us to be liked :D
now it feels like we are being forced to buy stuff we dont like, but since theres no real alternative we have to buy the stuff they like to make.
Post edited September 17, 2015 by gamesfreak64
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monkeydelarge: I never said you said it sucks.
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gamesfreak64: true, but i also never said that you said that i said that you said i said win 10 sucks , but its okay cause each windows kinda sucks we have to admit that :D

BlueScreensOfDead )bsod) corrupt user profiles, i had that happening a lot in the win95 period , esp. bsods
lateron win98SE became better, then i had win 2k for a while, and XP, good old Xp, i hated that one cause my old win2K was easier to control, but once i jumped into XP i learned to know it and then win7 came i was mad about win7, and now Xp is ++++, win7 is active windows i use now and soon to be also among the ';living dead'
because they had to force win10 so soon on us :D

Anyway, you learn to handle the 'problemchild' that windows is , has been and alway will be, but
now with the killing of privacy, things have changed, i dont mind bugs, bsods, but i do value Privacy a lot, and win10 is kinda 'violating' that by default.

So the privacy violation is my biggest issue with mickeysofts win10, ow and the metrointrface sux aswell it doesnt work with mouse.

So if MString returns our Privacy and keeps respecting that no, removes the keyboard loggers and E.T staff, and an option to not have that ugly tiled metro interface then win10 might have a chance.

Mickeysoft and any other software company should be making stuff we like, not what they would like us to be liked :D
now it feels like we are being forced to buy stuff we dont like, but since theres no real alternative we have to buy the stuff they like to make.
Same here. The main reason that I wound up going back to 7 was that the privacy violations were way above and beyond what one could reasonably expect from the ToS.

I'll consider reinstalling at a later date if that gets fixed.
Nice to see so many IT Tech wannabe's on GoG.

Everything works fine on Windows 10, same as Windows 8 and Windows 7, due to the kernel and compatibility being the same.

Microsoft been working to keep the compatibility the same since the Windows Vista fiasco.

Every program/game I've used/played on Windows 7, I can use/play on Windows 10, sometimes it even has better performance.

If your problem with Windows 10 is the privacy, then I would like to inform you Microsoft has been gathering information from the users even before the Windows XP came to the market.

Plus, if you're so worried about your privacy, I suggest you stop using the internet, cause most programs/websites gather your information.

Bottow of line, Windows 10 is fine. If you don't like it, don't use it, and stop spreading lies and hate.
I don't know about games, but I upgraded to Win 10 at work and it's so much slower. Plus it's riddled with bugs and ludicrous inaccuracies. So fucking slow. Scheduling an update restart is a nice touch. Or it would be if it fucking worked.

Even simple things like displaying icons in folders it can't to right. Or at least in a timely fashion. It's actually quicker to open up a load of files and do it that way. Speaking of files in folders, it can't even accurately report how many files are in a folder. Again it's quicker to add them up yourself than to wait for it to finally get it right.

Maybe someday after at least two service packs it might just about be better than Windows ME.

In short you get what you pay for and this shit is free.
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Sarisio: It is hilarious to watch people instal fresh and new OS time and time again and cry that it breaks nearly everything.
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timppu: New PCs people buy now come with Windows 10 preloaded, so those people don't have any real choice (especially laptop buyers). There's the thread here someone complaining he can't find a store selling Windows 7 for the PC he is building.
For the time being, there are still shops that sell computers that include downgrade rights. I looked at a Lenovo laptop a couple days ago and for $0 they would include downgrade rights. I'm not sure how long that's going to be an option anywhere though.
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Kobi_Blade: Nice to see so many IT Tech wannabe's on GoG.

Everything works fine on Windows 10, same as Windows 8 and Windows 7, due to the kernel and compatibility being the same.

Microsoft been working to keep the compatibility the same since the Windows Vista fiasco.

Every program/game I've used/played on Windows 7, I can use/play on Windows 10, sometimes it even has better performance.

If your problem with Windows 10 is the privacy, then I would like to inform you Microsoft has been gathering information from the users even before the Windows XP came to the market.

Plus, if you're so worried about your privacy, I suggest you stop using the internet, cause most programs/websites gather your information.

Bottow of line, Windows 10 is fine. If you don't like it, don't use it, and stop spreading lies and hate.
That is all that needs to be said on Windows 10. Nothing to add.
Someone need to let Microsoft now, that their DirectX library and support is broken for old games. There are many issues with DirectDraw specifically.

If I will ever have to go to Windows10, which might eventually happen, I'd like to see this fixed...
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djranis: its still very early to say
First sensible comment in the thread.
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siddham: What is the verdict on Windows 10 from gamers?
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timppu: For now, gaming is not the reason to upgrade to it. Overall it seems to have pretty good backwards compatibility, but some games can break (like if you have any old retail games with certain SecuROM versions, or even some GOG games do have issues, but maybe GOG will fix most of those issues, e.g. I see a new Carmageddon 2 installer has appeared which supposedly fixes the Win10 installation issues with that game; but then I already see someone reporting the new version crashes when you try to run the game?).

If you have a higher end PC, then in the future DirectX12 games will probably become a reason to use Windows 10. If you mainly play older (GOG) games or indies, e.g. because your PC is not up to new AAA stuff, then this is not relevant.

If you have Windows 8.x, then I feel an upgrade to Windows 10 is overall well worth it either way, because Windows 10 feels more like a proper desktop OS than Windows 8.x.

I personally will keep Windows 7/64bit on my current PCs where I have it, and any future PC which I will buy (e.g. for future AAA games) will obviously have Windows 10 preloaded. So my future Windows 10 PCs will run those future DirectX12 titles then.

Also, naturally one benefit of Windows 10 is that it will be officially supported much farther to the future than either Windows 7 or 8. That's the reason why I am still reserving (and temporarily installing, and then downgrading) a free copy also to those Windows 7 PCs even if I am not going to use it on them for now. Maybe later, when the support of Windows 7 ends. Or not, maybe install Linux Mint on the side of Windows 7. I'll decide then.
Excellent comment. Thanks.
I am building my first system at the moment and will be going with Win 7 64bit Professional (OEM) for all the reasons you discussed. In time, when it is finished, I will perhaps move to 10; but as a legacy gamer I dont want to beta test it.
Post edited September 17, 2015 by siddham
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hedwards: I'm not sure how long that's going to be an option anywhere though.
Until 2020 for downgrading to Windows 7, until 2023 for downgrading to Windows 8.
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hedwards: I looked at a Lenovo laptop a couple days ago and for $0 they would include downgrade rights.
Last brand I would buy is Lenovo.

They do way too many things. Cannot be [url=http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/]trusted.
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siddham: I am building my first system at the moment and will be going with Win 7 64bit Professional (OEM) for all the reasons you discussed. In time, when it is finished, I will perhaps move to 10; but as a legacy gamer I dont want to beta test it.
Grab 10, and ask about your downgrade rights. So you buy only the latest OS, while still have access to the earlier one. Check the link in this post for more info.
Post edited September 17, 2015 by JMich
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Sarisio: All Windows OSs are good only at least year after their release, after good portions of fixes and updates were done.

It is hilarious to watch people instal fresh and new OS time and time again and cry that it breaks nearly everything.

Updating/upgrading OS "just because" is the worst idea ever. Juts like constantly updating drivers and what not, because some "tech specialist" told so. It is like people never experienced Windows XP before any SP pack was released, it is like they never experienced fiasco of NT and Vista, it is like they have way too much free time on their hands to install and reinstall OS over and over again and seek compatibility fixes for aech and every program/game.
Yes....or people pre-ordering games...and freaking out when there are some bugs
There are of course genuine release disasters; but anyone who knows anything about software and games, knows there will always be issues in new software on initial realease into the wilds of cyberland. No development program can subject software to all the varieties of hardware and software and user interactions that it will be subjected to on release. For those reason I never pre-order; and ususally wait a year or so before buying. With Win 10 I may wait a few years.
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siddham: I am building my first system at the moment and will be going with Win 7 64bit Professional (OEM) for all the reasons you discussed. In time, when it is finished, I will perhaps move to 10; but as a legacy gamer I dont want to beta test it.
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JMich: Grab 10, and ask about your downgrade rights. So you buy only the latest OS, while still have access to the earlier one. Check the link in this post for more info.
I will be going with Win 7 OEM for my new build. As far as I know it comes with free update to Win 10.
But I wont update. I will wait until they have patched and service packed it.
Post edited September 17, 2015 by siddham
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siddham: I will be going with Win 7 OEM for my new build. As far as I know it comes with free update to Win 10.
1) Free update is valid until end of July 2016.
2) Free update was valid for systems activated before July 2015, from what I recall. Tell me if you want me to go look for said post, which I may not be able to find.

Feel free to get whatever works for you, I just find that a Win10 license provides access to 3 OS versions for 5+ years, while a Win7 license provides access to 1 or 2 versions.
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hedwards: I looked at a Lenovo laptop a couple days ago and for $0 they would include downgrade rights.
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Martek: Last brand I would buy is Lenovo.

They do way too many things. Cannot be [url=http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/]trusted.
As with any OEM, I'd recommend doing a complete reinstall with a non-OEM disc.