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Posted June 14, 2016
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skimmie: Don't worry, I appreciate a good discussion :) I guess we have a fundamentally different opinion here though.
Which is fine. Even if we don't end up agreeing, we'll at least learn to disagree civilly, which in itself is already a valid reason for disagreeing to begin with.

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skimmie: My point is that it's really not okay for any civilised public community to accept its members to be exposed to racism, sexist behaviour and the like, and tools should be in place to do something about that. Since giving these tools to its regular members is out of the question, I'm of the opinion that therefore the forum owners should uphold these basics of civilised interaction instead.
For this, I would have to refer you to what I posted just before I read this here:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/were_looking_for_a_community_specialist/post207

Just add sexist in front of racist in every sentence & that's my opinion of it. I exhort you to, from now on, pay more attention to acts than to words.

Actions are a much more easily proven intent, can't be dismissed as merely perceived slights, and will help you form a much better & accurate opinion of the person who's doing them.

People who say nice things all the time are usually extremely fake & you're only setting yourself up for a major disappointment if you invest in them. There, I just saved you half a lifetime of tears.

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skimmie: Oh, and on a personal, but related note - I can cope with this behaviour just fine (learned to a long time ago). I work in an environment where I have to deal with such behaviour on a weekly basis. When I'm at home, relaxing and enjoying my free time, I *could* ignore them, but I don't want to even have to :)
You'll have to. So do I. Just be glad we both have such a good life that we get to be annoyed at these little things. Chin up.
Posted June 14, 2016
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Bookwyrm627: The regular members do have a few tools to help deal with these things. The official ones only work on a post-by-post basis, but they can work.
They can also be mis-used. I have seen both transphobia and at least one intentional topic derail become "high rated", for example.
Posted June 14, 2016
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Avogadro6: The problem with volounteer moderators...
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zeogold: I'm aware of that issue, but if they goof up too much to the point that the community starts clamoring about it, they can get booted off the team by the staff.
If payment is required, one could easily be "paid" for this position with a $9.99 GOG code per month or something like that.
Sure, that something they could do, but it looks like they don't want to take the risk, and for once I agree with them. :P

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zeogold: A solution to solve the whole power issue could possibly be that the volunteer mod lacks the power of banning. He or she could have the authority to issue warnings or put temporary locks on posting and, if things get out of hand, alert the "higher-ups".
But to be honest, this is something I could get behind too. Should they not find a CM in a reasonable timeframe I wouldn't mind them going this route...
Posted June 14, 2016
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dtgreene: Here's the thing:

Suppose that, for years, people have been calling you "fag" as an insult while bullying you. This experience is very likely to color your view of that particular term.

Now, imaging if people started calling you "fag" on the forums. Wouldn't that bother you in that case?

Another thing I should point out: A person's name is an important part of that person's identity. By calling that person a name that person does not wish to be called, you are disrespecting the person's identity, and are therefore disrespecting the person.

Just because you are okay with being called $SLUR doesn't mean that other people would be.

(The only way to be sure that something is OK is to explicitly ask the person you're referring to.)
Oh hi, dt.

No. :)
Posted June 14, 2016
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If gog.com is going to have moderators to ban.

Well then I know I'm already gonna be permanently banned for all of the stupid stuff I say.

And so will tinyE.

I guess Konrad ban me permanently right now?

BAN ME PERMANENTLY RIGHT NOW.
Posted June 14, 2016
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dtgreene: They can also be mis-used. I have seen both transphobia and at least one intentional topic derail become "high rated", for example.
Just as the position of moderator can be abused. A mod that has the ability to temp ban someone can very likely effectively perma-ban someone, depending on the mod's dedication.

I think any system or tool that cannot be abused is one that is too simple to be useful.
Posted June 14, 2016
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phaolo: Due to the many alts, the moderator wouldn't be able to keep up only with warnings.
The temporary bans seem a better solution.
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zeogold: Well, the warning is the proper prelude to a ban of any sort. Seems a little unfair to me to ban somebody without any indication or without allowing them to at least try to defend themselves first.
No no, I said with warnings only, implying that they should be able to temp ban too.
Posted June 14, 2016
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Johnathanamz: If gog.com is going to have moderators to ban.

Well then I know I'm already gonna be permanently banned for all of the stupid stuff I say.

And so will tinyE.

I guess Konrad ban me permanently right now?

BAN ME PERMANENTLY RIGHT NOW.
Let em boot me. If they kick me they need to kick Tauto and Kleetus and I'm willing to sacrifice myself for that! :D Besides, I checked with Judas and he assured I will always have access to my games whatever happens.
Posted June 14, 2016
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Bookwyrm627: I think any system or tool that cannot be abused is one that is too simple to be useful.
Agreed. I, for one, feel comfortable with risking abuse in exchange for cleaning up the place. It's as tinyE pointed out: Even if we're banned, we still have access to our games no matter what.
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zeogold: Well, the warning is the proper prelude to a ban of any sort. Seems a little unfair to me to ban somebody without any indication or without allowing them to at least try to defend themselves first.
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phaolo: No no, I said with warnings only, implying that they should be able to temp ban too.
Ah, yes. I concur.
Post edited June 14, 2016 by zeogold
Posted June 14, 2016
OK, that's it. EVERYBODY OUT.
It's bad enough we have messy worldwide politics threads... now we have a GOG politcs one.
GET. OUT!
Posted June 14, 2016
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zeogold: A solution to solve the whole power issue could possibly be that the volunteer mod lacks the power of banning. He or she could have the authority to issue warnings or put temporary locks on posting and, if things get out of hand, alert the "higher-ups".
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Avogadro6: But to be honest, this is something I could get behind too. Should they not find a CM in a reasonable timeframe I wouldn't mind them going this route...
Again, I honestly think this would be a BETTER solution than the CM because this CM can't possibly know much about the community on principle of not being FROM the community.
Of course, we have yet to see who gets the job (or if anybody even applies for it at all), but the point still stands.
Posted June 14, 2016
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zeogold: Well, the warning is the proper prelude to a ban of any sort. Seems a little unfair to me to ban somebody without any indication or without allowing them to at least try to defend themselves first.
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phaolo: No no, I said with warnings only, implying that they should be able to temp ban too.
Ok your for people getting banned? Even temporary banned?

Fuck it then report me as spam or something.

Come on get me banned.

People are already don voting me for no reason most of the times anyways.

COME ON GOG.COM EMPLOYEES ONE OF YOU PERMANENTLY BAN ME RIGHT NOW.
Posted June 14, 2016
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Johnathanamz: Ok your for people getting banned? Even temporary banned?

Fuck it then report me as spam or something.

Come on get me banned.

People are already don voting me for no reason most of the times anyways.

COME ON GOG.COM EMPLOYEES ONE OF YOU PERMANENTLY BAN ME RIGHT NOW.
Why, you don't seem a troll, you just come up with a strange thread every now and then.

Btw.. I've never seen you lose it like now O_o
Post edited June 14, 2016 by phaolo
Posted June 14, 2016
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Johnathanamz: Ok your for people getting banned? Even temporary banned?

Fuck it then report me as spam or something.

Come on get me banned.

People are already don voting me for no reason most of the times anyways.

COME ON GOG.COM EMPLOYEES ONE OF YOU PERMANENTLY BAN ME RIGHT NOW.
Are you sure you're old enough to be on GOG?
Posted June 14, 2016
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Johnathanamz: COME ON GOG.COM EMPLOYEES ONE OF YOU PERMANENTLY BAN ME RIGHT NOW.
...um.....are you ok? O_o
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