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malevesque: I asked for a refund for a game to be ignored and I eventually cancelled my request to refund, not a single soul responded to the request... nada nill ziltch ... it does not take 3 weeks to respond to support requests unless management has ZERO intentions on caring for customers. I feel bad for the employees, their bosses obviously don't care anymore and just do all they can to maximize their bonus.
It took a full month for me to get my refund for Bloodlines 2. It takes this long because the process is done manually.
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mechmouse: I knew you were going to say that
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teceem: If you post something and you know the replies to it in advance, does that mean that you don't have any free choice on what to write?
We're all puppets, teceem. He's just a puppet who can see the strings.
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mechmouse: I knew you were going to say that
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teceem: If you post something and you know the replies to it in advance, does that mean that you don't have any free choice on what to write?
It just means I do a huge sigh as I post. Though it beats standing around in a car park.
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wolfsite: I have never understood why people always give Steam a free pass despite the fact they represent so much of what people hate about modern gaming distribution.

- They have removed games for no reason

- They promote censorship

- They push binding games to online services

- They popularized in game stores in Paid games on PC

- They introduced fee-to-pay games on PC

- They conditioned people to just accept DRM (There are gamers these days that have no idea of what DRM-free is thanks to Steam)

- They ignore complaints about games not working and even threaten to ban/delete accounts of people who have purchased games legally and just want them to work (I fit in this category with a threat of my account getting deleted just for wanting a game to actually star up)

- They allow publishers to come in and delete any negative criticism in the forums.

They have done far worse than any other company to PC gaming.... but hey I guess they deserve a free pass
One thing Steam doesn't do, tho, is try to foist itself off as a company that is passionately committed to DRM-Free gaming; GOG, on the other hand, is still going through the motions, which is getting kind of painful to watch. So I 100% emphasize with OP.


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windows984ever: GOG community: Complains about Hitman having online DRM unlockables until it's taken down.

Also GOG community: Almost silent about scamware "game" Subverse.

Never change.
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Breja: Also also GOG community: isn't psychic, so doesn't know what you're talking about unless you explain.
Think Succubus, except it isn't finished -- and at the rate it's going it never will be.
Post edited October 31, 2021 by richlind33
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Vaccinated76: Ask him if he knows what vinyl is? :P
Now i so totally want to get games on Vinyl...

Loading games on the fly at 9600 baud games input from a needle to my computer! Oh yeah! Now we're talking futuristic! I don't need no games that i can put in my pocket, i need to carry it around like a steering wheel! (Or in larger games, a STACK, a BOX of wheels!).
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Breja: Also also GOG community: isn't psychic, so doesn't know what you're talking about unless you explain.
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richlind33: Think Succubus, except it isn't finished -- and at the rate it's going it never will be.
Well, welcome to early access. It's why I never touch the stuff, and people who do have no one to blame but themselves.
the only problem with leavers like this is that the experience goes with them that would inform newer users of the inherent problems being experienced and their rate of inherent acceleration.
If people are not realized to have existed there is no wall of silence or better yet continued feedback noticeable to red flag people.

-Teach a man to fish and you can probably make a quick 5 bucks; teach only people with dementia to fish and you can probably buy a yacht by next christmas.
Post edited October 31, 2021 by Gamicon4
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I'm just going to point out, here that after the hitman thing and soe of the other shite we can say one of two things, maybe both, but at least one of the statements is true:

1. GOG is not an exclusively DRM-free store by any stretch of imagination, any more than dlsite, itch.io, etc. Just as they sell games with DRM and most of their catalogue is drm-free, doesn't mean they're DRM-free. This also applies to gog.

2. GOG is not a curated DRM-free store, unlike itch.io, dlsite, etc.

Let's face it, at least one of those arguments that people have used for saying gog is above it's competitors is clearly invalid at this point. Now the question is, which one?
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richlind33: Think Succubus, except it isn't finished -- and at the rate it's going it never will be.
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Breja: Well, welcome to early access. It's why I never touch the stuff, and people who do have no one to blame but themselves.
I think you're right in general, but Larian has been cranking out updates very frequently, so there are a few companies that don't abuse it. Subverse is an especially egregious offender, tho.
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malevesque: My logic is very simple, As a distributor you enter a distribution contract with the publisher, set your terms. Epic did, and they end up with an exclusivity deal with Gearbox for a year on new games for nothing less than the Borderlands franchise, same thing happened with Death Stranding...the end of the world did not happen and Epic store state was nothing short of pathetic back then, well its state right now is also debatable but you get my point :) It takes balls to negotiate the distribution contract, and GOG definitely does not have any seeing what we've seen for the past few years.
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mechmouse: Epic is valued at $28 BILLION and has insane influence via Fortnite and the Unreal engine.

CDPR is Valued at $8 BILLION, with moderate influence via Witcher franchise and small scale support from a bunch of DRM Free activists.

"Balls" has nothing to do with it. Epic has a much larger carrot to entice and much larger stick to hit them with
CDPs current market capitalization is ~$4.5B as their share price did go down quite a bit.