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General discussionWeird EULA showed up with 'Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righeous' (14 posts)(14 posts)
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Posted March 06, 2022
So, we know the first DLC came out a couple days ago, and everything was fine. Well, yesterday a hotfix patch started to download after I closed the game for the day. But today when I just now started the game to play again I'm greeted by a EULA that was never there before since the game released. If I decline the game automatically closes.

It has a lot of stuff about forced data collection about my device and tracking everything that's stored on it. It even says in the EULA that "The user must connect to the internet in order to use the software". That's unacceptable.

Can someone who has Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous take a look and the EULA and the Owlcat games privacy policy that is incorporated in the EULA?

Can the GOG staff also take a look at this and see if it's breaking any rules that are in place here on GOG in regards to DRM free software?

I also think at the very least that the store page needs to disclose that an EULA must be accepted before the software can be used.

I'm not sure I feel comfortable accepting any EULA from Owlcat games right now. This thing just shows up out of nowhere and this is a Russian developer. I have nothing against them personally, and I'm not going to the extremes of asking for a refund or anything, but I just want my game to work the way it did before.

Please look into this GOG, and if there's something wrong here then please pull this game from the stores or work with Owlcat games to get it fixed.

Thank you.

Edit: I attached an image, but it looks like I can't even make an attachment because of this stupid voting system... Get rid of that crap GOG.
Post edited March 06, 2022 by TomNuke
Posted March 06, 2022
Seems like the new "EULA" was pushed on all Channels.
Bit more information for example here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1184370/discussions/0/3183486955461366664/
Seems like a deliberate move from the Devs.
Sadly don't own the game yet so can't dive deeper regarding if there is a way to get the game running without accepting the EULA and it's implications.
Did you try to run the game with disconnected internet yet?
Posted March 06, 2022
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Alright, I pulled the plug and I was still able to start the game. There's a little "X" box on the top right of the EULA that will let you close it and have access the the main screen. I only have older version saves, but they appeared to load up fine. The EULA will continue to pop back up every time I start the game, however, I guess until I accept it.

I'll put some time on it now like I intended to do before I was greeted by the EULA to see if anything changes. Maybe I'm overreacting here, because it's a Russian developer or something. I don't know. But, I don't like this popping up out of nowhere when the game has been out for 6 months now, and it's saying things like "The user must connect to the internet in order to use the software".

And thanks for your response, TT_TT_TT_TT. I appreciate it.
Posted March 06, 2022
These are the mechanisms I hate about restrictions/DRM/updates with unwanted changes (not just fixes and additions).
You had (and often have paid for) something and, after that, you have something else you maybe wouldn't have chosen back when you were shopping
Posted March 06, 2022
Test out what will happen if you block away any connection of the game (maybe except local host, some games need that).
If it does not want to run anymore, it is time to take on charge on GoG and the Devs.
If it is about "we would like to collect statistical data and sad if you block us but as you wish" - fuck it and block it.
Posted March 06, 2022
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TomNuke: It has a lot of stuff about forced data collection about my device and tracking everything that's stored on it. It even says in the EULA that "The user must connect to the internet in order to use the software". That's unacceptable.
This has been the case since release. Without granting a connection to the Internet the game would crash. The reason according to an Owlcat representative was Unity Analytics. I even seem to remember that they promised to work on a patch so a connection would no longer be necessary. As it turns out now, this doesn't seem to be the case.
Post edited March 06, 2022 by Mori_Yuki
Posted March 06, 2022
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There are some games that appear prominently on GOG

Cyberpunk...
Pathfinder...
Hitman...ok not any more.

These are "GOG choice". As in "Amazon Choice"

The shit deals that the company wants you to buy because they think they can convince you that everyone else is buying it too. And the profit margins are huge.

They are overpriced, under-supported, and the support for those games will disappear within a year once the development team move onto a different project.

You might feel that people should feel sorry for you but the tell-tale signs are there, and this has happened so many times in the past. Don't buy these games. It's the only way things improve.
Posted March 06, 2022
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TT_TT_TT_TT: Seems like the new "EULA" was pushed on all Channels.
Bit more information for example here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1184370/discussions/0/3183486955461366664/
Seems like a deliberate move from the Devs.
Sadly don't own the game yet so can't dive deeper regarding if there is a way to get the game running without accepting the EULA and it's implications.
Did you try to run the game with disconnected internet yet?
Garrys mod did this too a while back.From what I remember they claimed steam was also grabbing a lot of info before they added their own stuff.



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Post edited March 06, 2022 by §pec†re
Posted March 07, 2022
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TomNuke: So, we know the first DLC came out a couple days ago, and everything was fine. Well, yesterday a hotfix patch started to download after I closed the game for the day. But today when I just now started the game to play again I'm greeted by a EULA that was never there before since the game released. If I decline the game automatically closes.

It has a lot of stuff about forced data collection about my device and tracking everything that's stored on it. It even says in the EULA that "The user must connect to the internet in order to use the software". That's unacceptable.

Can someone who has Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous take a look and the EULA and the Owlcat games privacy policy that is incorporated in the EULA?

Can the GOG staff also take a look at this and see if it's breaking any rules that are in place here on GOG in regards to DRM free software?

I also think at the very least that the store page needs to disclose that an EULA must be accepted before the software can be used.

I'm not sure I feel comfortable accepting any EULA from Owlcat games right now. This thing just shows up out of nowhere and this is a Russian developer. I have nothing against them personally, and I'm not going to the extremes of asking for a refund or anything, but I just want my game to work the way it did before.

Please look into this GOG, and if there's something wrong here then please pull this game from the stores or work with Owlcat games to get it fixed.

Thank you.

Edit: I attached an image, but it looks like I can't even make an attachment because of this stupid voting system... Get rid of that crap GOG.
The EULA has been on the game since the beggining, now they just add it a windows that make you accepted before playing, all the connection requirement is not obligatory, that was a error at launch, Unity Analytics was turn on by default, now is off and you have the option to add it if you want (I don't recommend that) the rest is the pretty standar EULA.
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TomNuke: It has a lot of stuff about forced data collection about my device and tracking everything that's stored on it. It even says in the EULA that "The user must connect to the internet in order to use the software". That's unacceptable.
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Mori_Yuki: This has been the case since release. Without granting a connection to the Internet the game would crash. The reason according to an Owlcat representative was Unity Analytics. I even seem to remember that they promised to work on a patch so a connection would no longer be necessary. As it turns out now, this doesn't seem to be the case.
It is fixed, the Unity Analytics are off and you have to manually activated, yesterday I reinstall the game completely offline and it worked completly fine! :)
Post edited March 07, 2022 by KetobaK
Posted March 07, 2022
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KetobaK: The EULA has been on the game since the beggining, now they just add it a windows that make you accepted before playing, all the connection requirement is not obligatory, that was a error at launch, Unity Analytics was turn on by default, now is off and you have the option to add it if you want (I don't recommend that) the rest is the pretty standar EULA.
Hey KetobaK,

Thank you for sharing this information, I really appreciate it. Looking forward to getting back into the game with my Two-Handed Fighter!
Posted March 07, 2022
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marcob: These are the mechanisms I hate about restrictions/DRM/updates with unwanted changes (not just fixes and additions).
You had (and often have paid for) something and, after that, you have something else you maybe wouldn't have chosen back when you were shopping
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Posted April 22, 2022
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Was going to buy while on sale, will pass now.
Posted October 06, 2022
Is the EULA still the same and the spyware in there? The game is on sale right now but I'm not buying it if that crap is still required.
Posted October 06, 2022
Horrible game, much worse than Kingmaker. World map is immensely frustrating, Crusade is mind-numbingly repetitive, comes across as made for children, overly complex character creation in a game that's burdened with agonizing quest progression that had me using the *advance time* function 50 times in a row at one point so I could get to where I needed to go, at which point I stopped trying to like it.
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