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Up to 80% off Wizardry 8, Paper Sorcerer, Avernum 2, the Eschalon trilogy, and more!



Did you notice? Spring is almost upon us! Birds are chirping, girls are blooming, snowflakes glimmer in the sun. But the important thing is, moods are changing as well. The season calls for happy faces, friendly embraces, a spring in your step. If that role doesn't suit you, however, you can choose to play a different one instead: that of a mage, a warrior, a thief, or even a lizardman. So don't let the season dictate how you feel, just open one of those scrumptious, heavily discounted <span class="bold">Spring Rolls</span>, roll the dice, and unleash your own personal mood.

The Empire rules the surface but deep in the cavernous underworld a group of heroes seek the crystal souls, hoping to also find a way to repel the imperial invaders. Multiple playable races, dozens of towns to visit, and over 60 spells and abilities to master make Avernum 2 a turn-based RPG of great depth, both literally and figuratively.

With the world circling a vortex of all-engulfing darkness, it falls upon your heroic group to try and reach the Cosmic Circle using any means necessary, in order to avert the upcoming cataclysm. Take advantage of the different story paths of Wizardry 8 and bring the acclaimed series to the epic conclusion that you have imagined.

You started out as a nameless amnesiac but soon your adventures through the unforgiving, isometric world of Eschalon escalated immensely. You came to doubt your origins and your place in the world but with unlimited character development options and a gazillion of customizable traits, this saga's outcome is bound to feel quite personal.



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Klumpen0815: BTW: Does anyone know whether Avernum 2 runs via WINE?
Haven't tested it myself. But all other games from Spiderweb run very well with Wine. Also on WineHQ it has tagged with Platinum. So I would guess that the chances are very good that it will run with Wine :)

Maybe anyone else can confirm that. I haven't the game yet.
Sorry for the dumb question but I'm on my phone and it's hard to tell...

Are Avernum : Escape From The Pit and Avernum 2: Crystal Souls remakes of games available in Avernum: The Complete Saga? If so, what makes them worth picking up on their own?
They are remakes, but to me the changes and improvements are quite drastic and significant.
Keep in mind the original games came out in the late 90's and early 2000.

So what's new and improved exactly:
* the storyline is largely the same but there's new locations (towns, dungeons etc. ) and quests = more content
* the interface has been overhauled making the games easier to jump into and play
* the visual and graphical stuff have gotten a significant polish
* character choices and leveling has changed, to make the end-game more interesting and perhaps easier
* instead of focusing on traits early on they have spread them out across the game

In a nutshell: visual improvements across all areas, more game content, a smoother learning curve, higher incentive to progress through the game, end-game choices that make the sequels more attractive and the series more cohesive.

You can always try with the first game, Escape from the Pit, and see whether you think the changes are worth it or whether you should just stick with the originals. There are plenty of youtube videos as well of the remakes.

For me the remakes have been worth it, they feel like modern Indie games.

Edit: oops...meant as reply to NoNewTaleToTell.
Post edited March 08, 2016 by Ricky_Bobby
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Ricky_Bobby: They are remakes, but to me the changes and improvements are quite drastic and significant.
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For me the remakes have been worth it, they feel like modern Indie games.
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation.

I liked the original 2D games. I disliked the isometric ones. One of the things I missed was a party of 6 PC instead of just 4. That last bit remains the same in these new versions, but still I might give them a try.
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ssokolow: Normally, I wouldn't mind re-buying a game on GOG at 75% off just as a matter of principle, but my Humble Bundle copy of Paper Sorceror includes a Linux version and I have a strict policy of never re-buying on GOG if their offering lacks a Linux version I own elsewhere.

(How else will publishers learn that there are consequences to screwing GOG over if I can't point to a financial loss directly resulting from it?)
I'm with you, but I take it a step further. If a Linux version is available elsewhere but not on GOG, then I won't buy it on GOG the first time. If I can't get it DRM anywhere else, then I probably just will not buy the game then. There are so many great games out there, nothing is a must buy.
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ssokolow: Normally, I wouldn't mind re-buying a game on GOG at 75% off just as a matter of principle, but my Humble Bundle copy of Paper Sorceror includes a Linux version and I have a strict policy of never re-buying on GOG if their offering lacks a Linux version I own elsewhere.

(How else will publishers learn that there are consequences to screwing GOG over if I can't point to a financial loss directly resulting from it?)
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jalister: I'm with you, but I take it a step further. If a Linux version is available elsewhere but not on GOG, then I won't buy it on GOG the first time. If I can't get it DRM anywhere else, then I probably just will not buy the game then. There are so many great games out there, nothing is a must buy.
I'm generally the same. Half the reason I still track down CD-ROMs for $30 on eBay is because the alternative is paying $1 to "buy" it on Steam.

.. I just happen to have various "no Linux" GOG shelf entries because I bought them on GOG and then, later, picked up the Linux debut in a Humble Indie Bundle.
Post edited March 08, 2016 by ssokolow
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IAmSinistar: Agreed, that's good stuff too.

Next time I play I intended to use the secret technique to unlocked the KS-only party members.
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DampSquib: No hack needed, they are both available from the start....must have been patched in at some point.
Thanks, that is good to know.
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jalister: I'm with you, but I take it a step further. If a Linux version is available elsewhere but not on GOG, then I won't buy it on GOG the first time. If I can't get it DRM anywhere else, then I probably just will not buy the game then. There are so many great games out there, nothing is a must buy.
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ssokolow: I'm generally the same. Half the reason I still track down CD-ROMs for $30 on eBay is because the alternative is paying $1 to "buy" it on Steam.

.. I just happen to have various "no Linux" GOG shelf entries because I bought them on GOG and then, later, picked up the Linux debut in a Humble Indie Bundle.
I like Humble Bundle for debuting so many Linux releases during their Humble Indie Bundles.
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ssokolow: I'm generally the same. Half the reason I still track down CD-ROMs for $30 on eBay is because the alternative is paying $1 to "buy" it on Steam.

.. I just happen to have various "no Linux" GOG shelf entries because I bought them on GOG and then, later, picked up the Linux debut in a Humble Indie Bundle.
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jalister: I like Humble Bundle for debuting so many Linux releases during their Humble Indie Bundles.
It's sort of the last remaining vestige of the set of values that made the first bundles truly deserving of the moniker "humble" rather than merely "charitable". (Mandatory cross-platformness, mandatory DRM-freeness, no tiers with fixed minimum prices independent of the average, in-depth "pay what you want" controls)

The other being that, if you want to protest a bundle's characteristics but still want the games, they'll still let you send 100% of your money to charity if you so choose. I use that flexibility to ensure no money gets sent to Steam-only developers when I'm buying a mixed bundle for its DRM-free entries.
Post edited March 09, 2016 by ssokolow
There, got Avernum 2! It was on my wishlist since it came out.
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jalister: I like Humble Bundle for debuting so many Linux releases during their Humble Indie Bundles.
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ssokolow: It's sort of the last remaining vestige of the set of values that made the first bundles truly deserving of the moniker "humble" rather than merely "charitable". (Mandatory cross-platformness, mandatory DRM-freeness, no tiers with fixed minimum prices independent of the average, in-depth "pay what you want" controls)

The other being that, if you want to protest a bundle's characteristics but still want the games, they'll still let you send 100% of your money to charity if you so choose. I use that flexibility to ensure no money gets sent to Steam-only developers when I'm buying a mixed bundle for its DRM-free entries.
I like the extra controls there also. You can also choose how much of your money goes to each developer. I've used that when I have wanted extra to go to a developer I really like. I think the only time I went 100% to charity was for the all Origin bundle.
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wolfsite: If you haven't picked up the Wizardry games yet....... what is wrong with you. :)
You know, I bought them because yay support old games, but when I bought Wizardry 7 back at the time of release it was already a very hardcore game. A game where you spend HOURS rolling the dice for character creation, and where any mistake in character build can make you lose many hours and start again.

I would not be that fast in recommending them.
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wolfsite: If you haven't picked up the Wizardry games yet....... what is wrong with you. :)
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Risingson: You know, I bought them because yay support old games, but when I bought Wizardry 7 back at the time of release it was already a very hardcore game. A game where you spend HOURS rolling the dice for character creation, and where any mistake in character build can make you lose many hours and start again.

I would not be that fast in recommending them.
I love playing them regardless. I always play them in order as well starting with 6 then importing the characters to 7 and 8. Great challenge and lots of fun. Classic old school RPG's with tons of variation and exploration.

Wizardry 7 also has some of the toughest bosses in video game history (these bosses are optional so they can be skipped but they are an incredible challenge)
Great challenge I agree, lots of fun with these reiterative grinding mechanics where save and load are mandatory and where you must restart the game more than a few times for previous bad choices, not that sure. They are games that punish you for everything. The Eye of the Beholder games are casual games in comparison, early Ultimas feel like feet massage. I never thought that the flexible class system in Wizardrys compensated the rest of the pain.