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This is my favourite topic
Posted March 21, 2020
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Fender_178: One good thing about Galaxy is that it updates your games automatically when you load it up. I like that feature and that's the only time that I use Galaxy is to update my games.
Noooooo.....don't be all sensible....don't you know we have to see galaxy as the worst evil to ever grace the face of this earth(and not just a tool to be used). ;)

(To all: The above is a joke)
Post edited March 21, 2020 by GameRager
Posted March 21, 2020
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rjbuffchix: Anti-DRM groups (if they exist, not even sure of that)
Defective By Design is FSF's campaign, including the Day Against DRM. It's also one of EFF's issues.
Posted March 21, 2020
GOG lied saying they wouldn't actively disable it. What's the next lie going to be I wonder? For a company based around trust you sure don't do much to deserve any these days.

Doesn't matter if you think this was the best move. All that matters is if you follow through with what you tell us. Clearly you've lost that principle somewhere along the road.
Posted March 21, 2020
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Fender_178: One good thing about Galaxy is that it updates your games automatically when you load it up. I like that feature and that's the only time that I use Galaxy is to update my games.
This is a "good" thing ? Wasn't the point of GOG to precisely NOT have third-party intrusion ?
Posted March 21, 2020
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Fender_178: One good thing about Galaxy is that it updates your games automatically when you load it up. I like that feature and that's the only time that I use Galaxy is to update my games.
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Akka: This is a "good" thing ? Wasn't the point of GOG to precisely NOT have third-party intrusion ?
That's why that feature can be toggled on or off. Does who like it can use it, those who don't like it dont need to. And those who dont use Galaxy at all, can still run the installers to update their games.
Posted March 21, 2020
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darkangelz: That's why that feature can be toggled on or off. Does who like it can use it, those who don't like it dont need to. And those who dont use Galaxy at all, can still run the installers to update their games.
But GOG just made the life of those who don't use Galaxy more annoying, by deliberately removing a very convenient way to download said installers. Which is the whole reason why we are angry and the very subject of this thread.
Posted March 21, 2020
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MaximumBunny: GOG lied saying they wouldn't actively disable it. What's the next lie going to be I wonder? For a company based around trust you sure don't do much to deserve any these days.
The never promised that, it's just some peoples jumping to conclusion based on an out of context quote, reread why Judas said, he said that while they were upgrading the infrastructure for Galaxy it could result in some disruption for the Downloader and that if said disruption were to happen they wouldn't be intentional.

He never said that they would keep the downloader forever and would never actually disable it, if anything they said that Galaxy was to become the new official client to replace the old Gog downloader. The reason why they didn't disable the downloader once Galaxy was released was because Galaxy was missing some features of offline backup. (People could argue that it is still missing features today but that's another discussion)
Posted March 21, 2020
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rjbuffchix: Anti-DRM groups (if they exist, not even sure of that)
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Cavalary: Defective By Design is FSF's campaign, including the Day Against DRM. It's also one of EFF's issues.
Great calls!!!! For some reason I was kind of locked in thinking of like "Facebook Groups" or something of the sort. I think Defective by Design was linked on FCKDRM.com homepage iirc too.
Posted March 21, 2020
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GameRager: [...]

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rjbuffchix: People aren't going to stop complaining about this, at least not while it's still such a fresh issue. If you want to walk the talk and "be the change", why don't you go on GOG's social media and ask for new mod policies that don't allow for negative feedback. :p
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GameRager: I want to, but:

1. I am one of those people that fears reprisals/counters to what I do(more so than is healthy).
2. I have no social media accounts(barring YT).
3. I am admittedly somewhat "lazy". [...]
Did you just admit that if it weren't for these three things, in that order, you'd have asked for a policy that disallowed negative feedback?
Posted March 22, 2020
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Gersen: The reason why they didn't disable the downloader once Galaxy was released was because Galaxy was missing some features of offline backup. (People could argue that it is still missing features today but that's another discussion)
I don't use Galaxy so maybe yourself or someone who does can enlighten me...you say Galaxy was missing some features of offline backup...so, what feature(s) did it gain within the last 2 weeks? As far as I can discern, none.
Posted March 22, 2020
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Gersen: The reason why they didn't disable the downloader once Galaxy was released was because Galaxy was missing some features of offline backup. (People could argue that it is still missing features today but that's another discussion)
What features?
Posted March 22, 2020
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HypersomniacLive: Did you just admit that if it weren't for these three things, in that order, you'd have asked for a policy that disallowed negative feedback?
No, I was saying i'd likely rally for such causes I/others want(in general) if not for those things.
Posted March 22, 2020
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rjbuffchix: I don't use Galaxy so maybe yourself or someone who does can enlighten me...you say Galaxy was missing some features of offline backup...so, what feature(s) did it gain within the last 2 weeks? As far as I can discern, none.
When Galaxy alpha / beta was first released it was mostly only usable to install and keep games updated, but if you wanted to download installers or extra you basically had to go through the browser or the old downloader.

The very first version was very limited when it came to download of offline backup, as first it wasn't able to at all (2.0 alpha also for some time didn't had this feature), then it was able to download them but it put then in a single folder (no folders per games) or in the game install folder, the it as in a specific folder but you couldn't decided where it was located it had to be in the games install folder, for a long time there was also not really a "download manager" integrated in it so it was no possible to change the priority of downloads, pause some of them, etc...

Currently (since a couple of weeks / months ago) it's much better :

You can specify a download folder separated to the one where the games are installed.
Each games downloads are in their separate folder (similar to the downloader)
You can control the priority of downloads for both downloads and updates.

But IMO it's still missing two main features of the downloader (for backup installer download):

Clear indication of games that had their offline backups updated.
Possibility to re-check something that was already downloaded. (Currently if you try to re-download something it will always re-download it even if it hasn't modified)
Post edited March 22, 2020 by Gersen
Posted March 22, 2020
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Gersen: [snip]

[...] it's still missing two main features of the downloader (for backup installer download):
Thank you very much for info that is new to me. I guess I'm not surprised that I didn't see many people talking about the offline backup capabilities of Galaxy; it's really not designed for that, and most people don't seem to care. Careful with the "heresy" there though since the official story is that Galaxy does everything the downloader did.
Posted March 22, 2020
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Just out of complete spite, I'm thinking of posting GOG downloader alternatives just so people stop getting their knickers in their twist. Sure, you might need to know how to activate a python script, but it really isn't that scary.

The GOG Repo program. This one has existed since 2015. You've had ample time to look into it.

The LGOG Downloader. Existent since 2012.

Comet, a tiny version of Galaxy for Linux.

MinGalaxy, more of the same.

Lutris, an open gaming platform.

And there's probably more. But to this point, I've illustrated things nicely: Alternatives exist. Use one.
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