Posted March 18, 2020
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Posted March 18, 2020
So the links ares still fuctional? Interesting.
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Posted March 18, 2020
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Links: If I always take my communications with employees representing a company just as that, and not as a personal communication with that individual, how could I ever ask anything from them that would go against the company's designs? My comments are at the company GOG.COM, not at some particular employee.
But who do you think makes those replies/tells the employees what to say(or sets guidelines for such)? The owners/higher ups. And who replies(usually)? The low level employees, not the big wigs.
So essentially it seems you are asking for execs/the company leadership to reply(likely not going to happen for such issues), or for answers from the low level staff....which they either don't have or cannot give(else risk their job possibly).
(Of course I could be wrong.....and if I am feel free to to let me know)
Links: Would you care to comment on how your original opinion over my post (making it short: "the poor person is just doing what they are told, how dare you!") has nothing to do with what I was saying? Read my comment again, realizing I'm talking to GOG.COM, not to [let me look it up...] "Ashleee", and express your opinion then if you care.
Read above bit I just wrote: GOG doesn't reply....the low level staffers do. Do you really expect the owners/top level execs to comment on such things? Most companies have their "peons"(correct term) do that sort of thing, for various reasons(legal, laziness, etc).
Links: In this particular case, even if I cared about the "forumites" past record: how could praising someone for an action and then disagreeing with actions that same someone takes, that go in direct opposition to the previous action's spirit, ever be called hypocrisy? To the contrary, it is perfectly consistent thought and behaviour.
I meant those who praise GOG a good amount when they get something from GOG, and then are overly critical of GOG over other "minor" issues. Maybe the word I used is wrong(it happens sometimes).....maybe "(those with)fickle loyalties" works better....as in some are seemingly only loyal to GOG when they get something from GOG, and when GOG takes something away some(very few...not all) seem to turn on GOG at the drop of a hat.
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THIS.....they cannot ignore it as much(and some might join in with words/a stance of support) if one does such in areas that are more public, or if one sends messages through official channels.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by GameRager
Zandolf
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Posted March 18, 2020
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chandra: After announcing that we’re ceasing the active development for GOG Downloader 6 years ago, the time has come to disable it. We put a lot of work into making GOG.COM an up-to-date place for gamers. Supporting GOG Downloader, which became an obsolete tool some time ago, simply does not go hand in hand with the goal we mentioned above.
In a week from now, we will deactivate GOG Downloader entirely, and it won’t be possible to download any files with it. As of the 17th of March, there will be two methods of downloading games from GOG.COM – via the browser or with the GOG GALAXY app. For more information on how to download your games and digital goodies go here.
It worked. It was easier to DL with the downloader. I don't want to use galaxy. So, purchases of large games is out now for people who don't want to use galaxy?In a week from now, we will deactivate GOG Downloader entirely, and it won’t be possible to download any files with it. As of the 17th of March, there will be two methods of downloading games from GOG.COM – via the browser or with the GOG GALAXY app. For more information on how to download your games and digital goodies go here.
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Posted March 18, 2020
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rjbuffchix: The possible result of under-worrying is losing the one store of big DRM-free games in existence.
There are other(albeit smaller) DRM free stores now. rjbuffchix: The possible result of me over-worrying, is annoying you and other users who don't want to believe me. Not the same gravity.
You and others also run the risk of some taking what you say as "gospel truth" and running with it/reacting as if it's truth & then spreading it around. Also yes, I think they are about the same(we can agree to disagree, though).
rjbuffchix: As for the second part, prove it. People complained in forum threads and other changes were rolled back, like the autoplaying videos and the Galaxy-bundled in with offline installers. I am not saying the correlation necessarily proves causation, but I am saying that we can't rule it out either (like you are claiming).
One cannot rule it out, but there are much more effective ways to express such, get the message out(and shared/grow a crowd of support/etc), etc than forum posts(some of which Tfishell mentioned in the bit I just replied to above). Basically those methods should be used first and foremost, as they have a better chance of accomplishing what one wants to see happen. rjbuffchix: You know what, no. It's GOG's responsibility to analyze the opinions of their customer base.
So essentially you're saying the issue is important to you, but NOT enough to try a bit harder to affect said change? (Also flipping it around: imo it's the responsibility of those who want changes to try their best to make them happen)
rjbuffchix: That means as long as there is a forum, this is a relevant place to criticize changes to the site, since GOG should be analyzing what is said here. You are the one who keeps saying "they're a business", right? Well, a smart business accurately accounts for all of its customers, not just the ones on "trusted partner" Facebook.
Read above.....the comments there(social media/other sites) are more public......thus likely to get more support and be harder to sweep under the rug, as it were. (Also it's less that that's the "only" thing GOG listens to and MORE that it's a better method to affect said changes and get GOG to listen)
Posting here to try and change things(in some cases) seems to me like a drunk person** complaining about things they dislike about society in a bar vs actually trying to go out and affect change by protesting/writing politicians/starting petitions/etc......i.e. methods that are more likely to work.
(**=The above is not me saying people who do such here are drunks/etc, in case anyone thinks that by accident)
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Zandolf: It worked. It was easier to DL with the downloader. I don't want to use galaxy. So, purchases of large games is out now for people who don't want to use galaxy?
One can DL in one's browser, but that might not work well for those with spotty internet/data caps(also more clicks to do to get them). That said, there are some options I collected(from other users) in post 130, and some have suggested one can use browser extensions that DL files from any website to try and DL from GOG.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by GameRager
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Online/Galaxy required = DRM.
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Posted March 18, 2020
rjbuffchix: The possible result of under-worrying is losing the one store of big DRM-free games in existence.
GameRager: There are other(albeit smaller) DRM free stores now. rjbuffchix: You know what, no. It's GOG's responsibility to analyze the opinions of their customer base.
GameRager: So essentially you're saying the issue is important to you, but NOT enough to try a bit harder to affect said change? (Also flipping it around: imo it's the responsibility of those who want changes to try their best to make them happen)
I don't care about making it easier for GOG to find my opinion, yes, even if it is lesser-heard that way. It is on GOG to properly analyze their customer base, not on me to help them make things easier for them. And that especially goes now when they removed a tool that made things easier for me.
We have fundamentally different ideas on what approaches "count" and which are likely to be effective. I'll leave it at that :)
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Posted March 18, 2020
rjbuffchix: The possible result of under-worrying is losing the one store of big DRM-free games in existence.
GameRager: There are other(albeit smaller) DRM free stores now. rjbuffchix: The possible result of me over-worrying, is annoying you and other users who don't want to believe me. Not the same gravity.
GameRager: You and others also run the risk of some taking what you say as "gospel truth" and running with it/reacting as if it's truth & then spreading it around. Also yes, I think they are about the same(we can agree to disagree, though).
rjbuffchix: As for the second part, prove it. People complained in forum threads and other changes were rolled back, like the autoplaying videos and the Galaxy-bundled in with offline installers. I am not saying the correlation necessarily proves causation, but I am saying that we can't rule it out either (like you are claiming).
GameRager: One cannot rule it out, but there are much more effective ways to express such, get the message out(and shared/grow a crowd of support/etc), etc than forum posts(some of which Tfishell mentioned in the bit I just replied to above). Basically those methods should be used first and foremost, as they have a better chance of accomplishing what one wants to see happen. rjbuffchix: You know what, no. It's GOG's responsibility to analyze the opinions of their customer base.
GameRager: So essentially you're saying the issue is important to you, but NOT enough to try a bit harder to affect said change? (Also flipping it around: imo it's the responsibility of those who want changes to try their best to make them happen)
rjbuffchix: That means as long as there is a forum, this is a relevant place to criticize changes to the site, since GOG should be analyzing what is said here. You are the one who keeps saying "they're a business", right? Well, a smart business accurately accounts for all of its customers, not just the ones on "trusted partner" Facebook.
GameRager: Read above.....the comments there(social media/other sites) are more public......thus likely to get more support and be harder to sweep under the rug, as it were. (Also it's less that that's the "only" thing GOG listens to and MORE that it's a better method to affect said changes and get GOG to listen)
Posting here to try and change things(in some cases) seems to me like a drunk person** complaining about things they dislike about society in a bar vs actually trying to go out and affect change by protesting/writing politicians/starting petitions/etc......i.e. methods that are more likely to work.
(**=The above is not me saying people who do such here are drunks/etc, in case anyone thinks that by accident)
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Zandolf: It worked. It was easier to DL with the downloader. I don't want to use galaxy. So, purchases of large games is out now for people who don't want to use galaxy?
GameRager: One can DL in one's browser, but that might not work well for those with spotty internet/data caps(also more clicks to do to get them). That said, there are some options I collected(from other users) in post 130, and some have suggested one can use browser extensions that DL files from any website to try and DL from GOG.
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Posted March 18, 2020
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One more obstacle put in my path by GOG.
Hiding its functionality behind myriad menus was bad enough.
If we wish to abstain from Galaxy we now have to use the browser system which is a huge inconvenience.
For example, I have just purchased XCOM2 and all dlcs (gog should be commended for this release)
Now I have to click on each separate link one at a time to download the games.
In Xcom2 base release there are 9 links, this does not include all the other links for the dlcs
More direct inconvenience directed at myself as I do not wish to use Galaxy.
GOG, you had better wake up before I decide it is time to say Goodbye to GOG.
Hiding its functionality behind myriad menus was bad enough.
If we wish to abstain from Galaxy we now have to use the browser system which is a huge inconvenience.
For example, I have just purchased XCOM2 and all dlcs (gog should be commended for this release)
Now I have to click on each separate link one at a time to download the games.
In Xcom2 base release there are 9 links, this does not include all the other links for the dlcs
More direct inconvenience directed at myself as I do not wish to use Galaxy.
GOG, you had better wake up before I decide it is time to say Goodbye to GOG.
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Posted March 18, 2020
Not necessarily. You can use your web browser with a standard download manager add-on, entirely independent of GOG's proprietary APIs, as explained here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post70
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post98
Moreover, if you install Adalia Fundamentals, you can continue using GOG Downloader, at least for now, because GOG didn't actually disable it, they just hid the links, and Adalia Fundamentals unhides them.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post70
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post98
Moreover, if you install Adalia Fundamentals, you can continue using GOG Downloader, at least for now, because GOG didn't actually disable it, they just hid the links, and Adalia Fundamentals unhides them.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by mrkgnao
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Posted March 18, 2020
mrkgnao: Not necessarily. You can use your web browser with a standard download manager add-on, entirely independent of GOG's proprietary APIs, as explained here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post70
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post98
Moreover, if you install Adalia Fundamentals, you can continue using GOG Downloader, at least for now, because GOG didn't actually disable it, they just hid the links, and Adalia Fundamentals unhides them.
Thank you for replying mrkgnao. https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post70
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post98
Moreover, if you install Adalia Fundamentals, you can continue using GOG Downloader, at least for now, because GOG didn't actually disable it, they just hid the links, and Adalia Fundamentals unhides them.
I respect your opinionsand Adalia Fundamentals, even though I have argued with him before.
I shall look into these options and implement them if they help me.
Can I just say though that without yours and others insight this is still a hurdle being presented to a user by GOG. If it were not for people like you and others to help where GOG fail, I would consider abandoning GOG.
Thank you and I will hang on for now. I hope GOG takes some note.
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Posted March 18, 2020
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My bad/mistake.
Nah, that'd be other people's job/hobby(like some with the conspiracy level stuff about GOG as of late, if I may be blunt/open ;)).
(Well MAYBE I COULD get into a good debate about picard vs kirk :D)
(Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake/etc, though)
These things happen(yeah that will likely come off as me being uncaring, but it is just me stating the truth)....when such happens it is often best to either fight for change(in an "arena" that will make such change likely to take place) or let things go and move on.
(Note: Such methods work in rare cases where one can get a large enough following to join in....but that is not very likely to happen here with this case....which is why I suggested other methods to affect said change in such cases)
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If it's ALL(big) games at all times & not due to the above, then what browser are you using? Maybe you are just using a browser GOG's wonky site doesn't like.
(I've used chromium for awhile now with almost no issue, and sometimes MS edge...dunno about others, though)
Nah, that'd be other people's job/hobby(like some with the conspiracy level stuff about GOG as of late, if I may be blunt/open ;)).
(Well MAYBE I COULD get into a good debate about picard vs kirk :D)
rjbuffchix: Perhaps "responsibility" isn't the right word. Let's reframe it as saying it behooves GOG to analyze the opinions of their customer base, since by accurately serving their customers, they increase sales and build more goodwill (which can result in future sales, recommending the site to others, etc).
Fair enough....though as I said, they(sadly) likely will only lose a small handful of people and those will likely be replaced soon enough(like with any other liked site/thing or fandom). rjbuffchix: I don't care about making it easier for GOG to find my opinion, yes, even if it is lesser-heard that way. It is on GOG to properly analyze their customer base, not on me to help them make things easier for them.
Then you seem to be essentially saying you don't want change(or want to work for it) and just want to complain about how things are....this is how you SEEM to be presenting yourself, atm, if only in part. (Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake/etc, though)
These things happen(yeah that will likely come off as me being uncaring, but it is just me stating the truth)....when such happens it is often best to either fight for change(in an "arena" that will make such change likely to take place) or let things go and move on.
rjbuffchix: We have fundamentally different ideas on what approaches "count" and which are likely to be effective. I'll leave it at that :)
If you want to continue thinking complaining on the forum equivalent of a dingy bar for change to happen works(more than it actually/usually does, I mean), then fine by me.....we can agree to disagree. (Note: Such methods work in rare cases where one can get a large enough following to join in....but that is not very likely to happen here with this case....which is why I suggested other methods to affect said change in such cases)
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Zandolf: I tried to DL Titan Quest for several days using the browser. Then a kind soul here reminded me of GD. Which worked first time. I can't even DL from my library with the browser, let alone new games. Why should I make any more purchases when I can't get the game to use? Galaxy is not an option.
Question: Are you sure the browser DLs weren't just acting up that day/for that game/etc? Or that it isn't due to a bad/spotty connection? If it's ALL(big) games at all times & not due to the above, then what browser are you using? Maybe you are just using a browser GOG's wonky site doesn't like.
(I've used chromium for awhile now with almost no issue, and sometimes MS edge...dunno about others, though)
Post edited March 18, 2020 by GameRager
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Posted March 18, 2020
What's your deal? You feel the need to argue with everyone? I said I tried to DL titan quest over SEVERAL DAYS. What's your problem?
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I agree completely. I have long ago been disillusioned by GOG's practices and have greatly reduced my spending here. Not reached zero yet, but getting there soon™...
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Zandolf: What's your deal? You feel the need to argue with everyone? I said I tried to DL titan quest over SEVERAL DAYS. What's your problem?
There's no problem(I mean in regards to you)....I just tried to offer advice in good faith. (Do you mean the other bit in that reply above the bit to you? That was to another user[we often get a bit "energetic" on our discussions])
(Also a BIG head's up: According to another post I read in the other thread, one can still DL games[supposedly] via GOG DLer if they DL/use Adalia Fundementals[a user made script for GOG])
Post edited March 18, 2020 by GameRager