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tfishell: Feeling, feeling - do you think GOG originally marketed to and cultivated an extra-emotional base compared to other stores (especially banking on nostalgia), or no more than any other digital storefront? (plus I guess most marketing in general is an emotional appeal) There's the nostalgia for old games and I've seen nostalgia on the forums for Good Old Games. :p
Yes. I think that. I can only tell my own impressions but years ago (the ages in which forums were still not broken and gogmixes existed) they actually gave me the feeling they were a part of the community as well. So many blue posts and each a gamer. They completely obliberated ths "we are just a company and want your money" image I always had and still have on Steam. But maybe these were just my own delusions or wishful thinking ... might as well be the case.
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rjbuffchix: Ah, I see what you mean now. Thanks for clarifying. I just don't like the decrease in pro-consumer attitude. Yes, a business is always out to make money, sure...but many (particularly within niche markets) do quite well by going the extra mile for their customers. That's something a big store can't match, for multiple reasons. It's kind of like how Walmart can give you low prices that the local business cannot, but the local business has the ability to give you better service than Walmart.
Not a problem.....I also like it when companies try to be nice to people/etc.

Still, if I may ask a question(mostly serious, a bit "silly"): What about the pro business side? What(besides giving companies money) do people directly do for companies?

Most of the time I usually see people(in general, I mean) online wanting more and more things from businesses....as if they are entitled to and should get everything they want because it'd be pro consumer.
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Maxvorstadt: Nope, we don`t say goodbye, instead off to the wishlist we go:
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date
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Moonbeam: This, and it needs some more votes please:)
Well, at least we will get this poll I asked for. Unfortunately without alt account I can only vote once.
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MarkoH01: Adalia is probably not helping here and I already mentioned the problems/difference with gogrepo as alternative for me.
Sorry for the confusion.....I mentioned adalia more as one thing that is still helping the community, not as a GOG DL alternative.

Also did you try all the alternatives I collated in post 130 or others that might work yet? Maybe one of them could be of help. :|
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nightcraw1er.488: And that is why nothing gets done, and why democracy never actually gets anything done. As you say, some people have option x and some have opinion y, and someone has to make a decision somewhere to choose. So if it is as you say that everyone is entitled to their opinions, I have posted mine, you have posted yours, and gog has decided to drop gogdownloader. End of discussion.
Am not about to engage in a democracy debate given that what we are talking about here, is choice as a consumer, or Gogger, and how we download our games. I'd put aside Galaxy which supposedly has always been optional even when it comes to download our offline installers, so we had browser, GOG downloader, third parties. Now it's down to 2 (leaving aside Galaxy). Yes as you said GOG decided to drop one, that doesn't mean we all have to roll over and stay silent about it, that is those of us who still used that reliable piece of software still valiantly doing it's job. Given your tone, and is your right here too, end of discussion indeed.
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Flyingfluffypiglet: As much as I do like FF and have it well configured, I sure wouldn't not entrust GBytes of data download with it, but that's me.
Anecdotal, but I have downloaded many dozens of GB with chromium and haven't had any data corruption/etc issues.

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Flyingfluffypiglet: Like you never had trouble with it in that respect, I never did with GOG downloader either.
There's an old saying(or there should be one if one doesn't exist yet) that one needs to leave their comfort zone sometimes else they will never know what they were missing.
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nightcraw1er.488: So if it is as you say that everyone is entitled to their opinions, I have posted mine, you have posted yours, and gog has decided to drop gogdownloader. End of discussion.
GOG might be stuck to their decision on this, but eh...if people want to talk about it I see no problem with that.
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GameRager: Also did you try all the alternatives I collated in post 130 or others that might work yet? Maybe one of them could be of help. :|
I am on it like I said. A user tried to teach me gogrepo yesterday and we ended up with an error when installing pythion and trying to run the script. I only have a few hours after work on weekdays so I had to postpone this. I already use a download manager for otther downloads on the internet (which basically was the rest of your posted alternatives) and it might be one alternative but at the moment I think I will end up with looking up my updated games on the web site and then download them in Galaxy since it is the closest to be the same as it used to be fo me ... and I said that I dislike changes. Maybe I am just too old. So with Galaxy in my head I would second the request to add update flags to Galaxy as well as those other download features that have been already requested so that this could be a true alternative for me. It still takes ages to start Galaxy (Downloader was there immediately) and it still eats much more resouces and will probably crash now and again but ... well ... it probably won't get good but maybe it will reach acceptable for me. Of course this won#t be an alternative for those who really don't want to use Galaxy at all.
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MarkoH01: Yes. I think that. I can only tell my own impressions but years ago (the ages in which forums were still not broken and gogmixes existed) they actually gave me the feeling they were a part of the community as well. So many blue posts and each a gamer. They completely obliberated ths "we are just a company and want your money" image I always had and still have on Steam. But maybe these were just my own delusions or wishful thinking ... might as well be the case.
That's what happens with time and growth of businesses a good number of times...they can start out well meaning and "down to earth" and then "lose touch" with the people that buy from them over time....it's almost like a natural cycle, albeit not usually a good one, but still in ways it seems like part of a natural progression.

Get the gist of what I mean(dunno if i'm explaining my thoughts right here)?

As for GOG: They had a bunch of such people on staff, then over time they fired/let go a bunch for various corporate reasons decided by the owners/board/share holders.
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Flyingfluffypiglet: Now it's down to 2 (leaving aside Galaxy).
For now anyways....who knows what some might create over time. :)

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Flyingfluffypiglet: Yes as you said GOG decided to drop one, that doesn't mean we all have to roll over and stay silent about it, that is those of us who still used that reliable piece of software still valiantly doing it's job.
If it was going to happen and we find out we cannot change it, then people should move on(after some venting/etc of course) and hope for/create NEW things that are as good or better than the old. Then everyone wins. :D
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GameRager: Anecdotal, but I have downloaded many dozens of GB with chromium and haven't had any data corruption/etc issues.
Fair enough but again, if you haven't doesn't mean nobody else didn't have issues, again that's computing for you. I wouldn't say for Chromium given I don't use it.
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GameRager: As for GOG: They had a bunch of such people on staff, then over time they fired/let go a bunch for various corporate reasons decided by the owners/board/share holders.
Yes and they had a bunch of loyal customers as well which decided to simply leave GOG if GOG decided that it would be worth to lose touch with the community/customer base. Not saying that I will be the next but I say that I can understand them and maybe ... just maybe .. sometimes GOG should think about the question if those old loyal customers really aren't worth as much as the new customers they try to attract right now. You can see it in this very thread that still many completely refuse to use Galaxy and I don't blame them - it's their decision and they joined GOG in most cases when everything was different. When GOG announced Galaxy many feared that GOG would turn to Steam (and some still do) and GOG is now completely focused on Galaxy and Gaalxy 2 - clients which are basically there to attract new customers and many of the old customer base don't want to use at all. The more GOG is showing that everything is going Galaxy the higher the probability that those customers might leave GOG .... Imo (stands for in MY opinion ;)) GOG should try to balance old/classic customers and the new one and find a way which will please both. Offereing alternatives is one way to do so and they just scratched one.
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GameRager: There's an old saying(or there should be one if one doesn't exist yet) that one needs to leave their comfort zone sometimes else they will never know what they were missing.
Except that here, it's not like I never left my comfort zone, it simply is the fact that of all options available, GOG downloader was the best and lightest for me which never gave me any grief, unlike other options. It's like I was saying: options don't all work the same for everybody, hence best to have a few at hand.
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MarkoH01: I am on it like I said.
No rush....I was merely trying to give suggestions. :)

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MarkoH01: A user tried to teach me gogrepo yesterday and we ended up with an error when installing pythion and trying to run the script.
Too bad more such things cannot be like greasmonkey extensions/scripts seem to be(from what i've heard of them)....install them and go.

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MarkoH01: I only have a few hours after work on weekdays so I had to postpone this. I already use a download manager for other downloads on the internet (which basically was the rest of your posted alternatives) and it might be one alternative but at the moment I think I will end up with looking up my updated games on the web site and then download them in Galaxy since it is the closest to be the same as it used to be for me ... and I said that I dislike changes.
I do as well, but anyways I am glad to hear you're at least trying to keep your head up and try to fix this for yourself.

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MarkoH01: Maybe I am just too old.
Pshaw to that....:)

Also since people say one is only as old as one feels....solution: Start thinking you're an energetic young 20 something. ;D

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MarkoH01: Of course this won#t be an alternative for those who really don't want to use Galaxy at all.
True, but at least they still have browser downloads and the more resourceful might puzzle out gog repo.
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GameRager: For now anyways....who knows what some might create over time. :)
Except that, and I don't say this in a nasty way, over time doesn't really interest me right now, given that I still have stuff to download now and in the short time.

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GameRager: If it was going to happen and we find out we cannot change it, then people should move on(after some venting/etc of course) and hope for/create NEW things that are as good or better than the old. Then everyone wins. :D
That's exactly what some us are doing right here right now: venting/etc. As for the rest, fair enough of course, it's not like we're gonna keep at it for months to come. Well.... Nah! ;-)
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Flyingfluffypiglet: Fair enough but again, if you haven't doesn't mean nobody else didn't have issues, again that's computing for you. I wouldn't say for Chromium given I don't use it.
I know some might have issues, and sympathize with them....that said: most who do so seem to usually be mainly those with spotty/unreliable & slow connections.....most times a good browser(any of them) will download just fine.
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MarkoH01: The more GOG is showing that everything is going Galaxy the higher the probability that those customers might leave GOG .... Imo (stands for in MY opinion ;))
The problem being that for every customer GOG loses they likely gain 2 or more that don't mind what they do as long as people can play games....same with most businesses, the blind consumers often outweigh the rest.

Also I knew what that meant but thanks for explaining it in case I didn't. :)

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MarkoH01: GOG should try to balance old/classic customers and the new one and find a way which will please both. Offering alternatives is one way to do so and they just scratched one.
Agreed....we will see how this plays out in time, I would expect.

Also as I said to others...they scratched one but who knows what the future may bring us. :)


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Flyingfluffypiglet: Except that here, it's not like I never left my comfort zone, it simply is the fact that of all options available, GOG downloader was the best and lightest for me which never gave me any grief, unlike other options. It's like I was saying: options don't all work the same for everybody, hence best to have a few at hand.
Agreed 100%
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Flyingfluffypiglet: As much as I do like FF and have it well configured, I sure wouldn't not entrust GBytes of data download with it, but that's me.
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GameRager: Anecdotal, but I have downloaded many dozens of GB with chromium and haven't had any data corruption/etc issues.

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Flyingfluffypiglet: Like you never had trouble with it in that respect, I never did with GOG downloader either.
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GameRager: There's an old saying(or there should be one if one doesn't exist yet) that one needs to leave their comfort zone sometimes else they will never know what they were missing.
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nightcraw1er.488: So if it is as you say that everyone is entitled to their opinions, I have posted mine, you have posted yours, and gog has decided to drop gogdownloader. End of discussion.
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GameRager: GOG might be stuck to their decision on this, but eh...if people want to talk about it I see no problem with that.
No, I agree, it’s fine to talk about it. However it seems that every post nowadays is, don’t give your opinion because everyone else has an opinion. Mine is here is no need for gogdownloader.