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HunchBluntley: ...
.. this is due to lack of spambots... ٩◔̯◔۶
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HunchBluntley: I remember when this thread was for reporting spambot incursions. (sigh)
You're right.

I'll stop.
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Narakir: What if a political message in a game completely ruins the experience for you because it hurts your values and you simply can't continue to play like let's say the pro-LGBT tidbits in Dragon Age : Inquisition? Isn't it relevant to someone's experience?
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Shadowstalker16: Then the section should be skipped / modded out. You see, I argue based on creative freedom. Ie creators should be free to put in anything they want; ''diversity'' or ''toxic masculinity'' or ''unrealsstic body images''or SJWism be damned and their creations should have a chance to compete on the market, where the consequences of their decisions can manifest in commercial success / failure. If the game is an SJW shitfest and it can't be modded out, then it is part of the experience and people won't buy it.
So basically you want all games to be able to cater to your specific tastes and be able to skip the "SJW" content and thus be able to censor them at your personal discretion. Man you're really a special snowflake in need of a safe space and trigger warnings, you could simply not buy them, play or do something else.
Post edited February 26, 2017 by Narakir
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Vainamoinen: Finding "pro-LGBT tidbits" so appalling that the mere detail in a game ruins your enjoyment of the whole work of art, calling for the removal or modding of the game just because "pro-LGBT tidbits" are portrayed, or slandering and decrying of a game just because of those "pro-LGBT tidbits" is what we call homophobia.
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Lin545: And not doing this is called sexual disorder.
No, it isn't.

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Vainamoinen: I think GOG should adopt the Double Fine forum's rules.
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Lin545: GOG should adopt a rule of "be nice". If you do something that others don't appreciate - be nice and don't shove it into their face. I did awesome work with gays, which simply were nice and did not interfere into my tastes.
And you would be violating said rules. Telling an entire class of people that they're perverts is not a nice thing to do.
Post edited February 26, 2017 by dtgreene
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Bookwyrm627: Blatant lies Es! I've seen your opinion of Trump.

And I plan to drop that joke after this statement.

And I have no clue why auto-suggest thought that 'Es' was necessary or appropriate. I'll leave that too so you can reply to it instead of Trump.
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tinyE: What does my opinion of him have to do with my open door?

I do despise the man, but I'm not going to cut anyone off because they don't feel the same way. If I did that I'd really be fucked because my parents adore him and they are my best friends. I run this very successful business with them, we depend on each other and we love each other.

And what is 'auto-suggest' and 'Es'? I'm confused by that last bit.
I was referring to the idea of what happens if Trump turned up looking for a room (leaving aside things like likelihood of that happening, security, etc). Though if your parents are fans, then that would change the situation. Anyway, it was meant to be a joke, though it wasn't a very good one.

I'd say it was auto-correct, except it wasn't really correcting anything. I was typing on the iPad and the software inserted the 'Es'; I have no idea why.
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tinyE: What does my opinion of him have to do with my open door?

I do despise the man, but I'm not going to cut anyone off because they don't feel the same way. If I did that I'd really be fucked because my parents adore him and they are my best friends. I run this very successful business with them, we depend on each other and we love each other.

And what is 'auto-suggest' and 'Es'? I'm confused by that last bit.
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Bookwyrm627: I was referring to the idea of what happens if Trump turned up looking for a room (leaving aside things like likelihood of that happening, security, etc). Though if your parents are fans, then that would change the situation. Anyway, it was meant to be a joke, though it wasn't a very good one.

I'd say it was auto-correct, except it wasn't really correcting anything. I was typing on the iPad and the software inserted the 'Es'; I have no idea why.
Oh. Sorry for being defensive,

My bad. :D
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dtgreene: No, it isn't.
It is. If you accept illness to be your natural part, you may become an illusion that it isn't. If you continue on, you may evolve into subspecies (an example), where illness integrates so close, its not considered a perversion anymore. But because the illness affects breeding mechanism itself, it may constitute a problem, but you probably better know this than me.

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dtgreene: And you would be violating said rules. Telling an entire class of people that they're perverts is not a nice thing to do.
"Pervert" is not a filthy word, its a fact and even in the corner case - its not my problem either if you can't cope with truth.
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HunchBluntley: I remember when this thread was for reporting spambot incursions. (sigh)
+1

This has veered into the ridiculous. Feel free to take the rest of this elsewhere.

For a change of pace, actual spam.
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Lin545: No, because its a perversion. If this wouldn't be one - then yes. Perversions are when something happens against the nature* of things (I mean tao here, not trivial black/white religions), for example eating food through fingertips or talking via flapping of ears and using mouth to hear instead. Perversions usually happen unconsciously due to some kind of illness. Everyone has some illnesses and deviations, mostly balance themself out - nobody should be punished for it, only exceptional illnesses require patients to be isolated ... its all very debatable topic.

Do you know the tea analogy? This is what I mean, this is not the natural way of drinking tea (a perversion), not the way I drink tea and I have full right to deny it. Form groups, drink tea like this, make games about it - I don't care, I don't hate or dislike anyone for it, but its not my way of doing it. I don't support nor appreciate all this reverse-exorcism, where witches hunt and hang the villagers...
So is every sex act that doesn't lead to procreation a perversion? If a man and a woman have anal sex is it a perversion? That's not where it's supposed to go is it? If they have oral sex is that a perversion too? That's not where you're supposed to put it in either is it?

Or are people's sexual preferences and choices all valid, except if it's something you don't like, in that case it's a perversion?

You do say you don't mind that people are gay, just so long as they don't ever express that in your presence in order to not offend your delicate sensibilities.

You have it backwards here mate, if all the parties consent and no one is getting hurt there is no reason for people to hide who they are. You're the one who isn't affected at all by how people live their lives, and should mind your own business and respect other people's views. If you don't, don't be surprised by the outcome and don't whine about being called a homophobe when you tell others they are abominations and should hide who they are for your sake.
Post edited February 27, 2017 by DaCostaBR
forget it
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Shadowstalker16: Then the section should be skipped / modded out. You see, I argue based on creative freedom. Ie creators should be free to put in anything they want; ''diversity'' or ''toxic masculinity'' or ''unrealsstic body images''or SJWism be damned and their creations should have a chance to compete on the market, where the consequences of their decisions can manifest in commercial success / failure. If the game is an SJW shitfest and it can't be modded out, then it is part of the experience and people won't buy it.
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Narakir: So basically you want all games to be able to cater to your specific tastes and be able to skip the "SJW" content and thus be able to censor them at your personal discretion. Man you're really a special snowflake in need of a safe space and trigger warnings, you could simply not buy them, play or do something else.
No, its called modding you dimwit. I'm not censoring it for anyone else. If I buy a magazine and don't read a part I don't like, is it ''censorship'' as well? Or are you censoring the local newspapers because you don't read the obituaries, matrimonials and realestate sections?

My game = play however I like. Stop telling people how to play, its retarded.
Spam happened, you can stop having normal human discussion.
How ironic. The "WE ARE UNDER ATTACK" thread has come under political attack.
Can we not just keep this to reports of spam and have this discussion in a different thread?
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DaCostaBR: So is every sex act that doesn't lead to procreation a perversion?*1* If a man and a woman have anal sex is it a perversion? *2* That's not where it's supposed to go is it? If they have oral sex is that a perversion too? *3* That's not where you're supposed to put it in either is it?

*4* Or are people's sexual preferences and choices all valid, except if it's something you don't like, in that case it's a perversion?

*5* You do say you don't mind that people are gay, just so long as they don't ever express that in your presence in order to not offend your delicate sensibilities.

*6* You have it backwards here mate, if all the parties consent and no one is getting hurt there is no reason for people to hide who they are. *7* You're the one who isn't affected at all by how people live their lives, and *8* should mind your own business and respect other people's views. If you don't, don't be surprised by the outcome and don't whine *9*about being called a homophobe when you tell others they are *10* abominations and should hide who they are for your sake.
*1* Procreation? Sometimes procreation happens in the med-lab... Please reread my posts. I assume the "proper" way is when it makes fun AND doesn't deviate from how things are "designed". For example: just because I use my ears to hear stuff (this is by design), doesn't mean it ears are supposed to hear only "proper" stuff (this is "procreation").

*2* (Can we stay SFW please?) Yes it is. I don't mind this perversion.

*3* Yes it is (I love this perversion).

*4* This a new definition by you, which I don't agree with. I am not using my preferences as a sorting guide.

*5* Partially correct : I am thankful if they do their stuff privately and I myself avoid this stuff, because I dislike this.

*6* I am getting hurt here, because I dislike this - this is why I am asking nicely to avoid it. There is nothing fancy about it! I am not getting into those private places, where they explicitly do it, so its a neutral ground. Those who deny my request - don't differ much from ... those who spraying a perfume around on purpose of teaching those who have an allergy to that perfume lesson. Impoliteness, barbarism, disrespect, etc.

Likewise this is incorrect to say its forcing someone to "hide it" - if a girl wants tea, and the guy denies, but the girl then forces guy to drink tea - she is a rapist, right? And if a rapist then claims she was forced to do it, because guy tried to make her hide "her will to drink tea with guy"? She is still a rapist. Guy said no politely, why so not be nice? Its a public place.

*7* I am affected by people around to large degree. You are too. This is how tao works. Someone sneezes, you get cold. You can't avoid it - you can only if you don't go there, or if someone doesn't sneeze because he has a handkerchief. (hiding the sneezing! criminal!)

*8* Perversions are not mainstream by definition, so - no.

*9* I am not "homophobe", because I am not afraid of "homo" at all. Technically, I am homoodiosic. Means "person who dislikes homo"-things. Not more, not less.

*10* Abominations? Its impolite to call an ill person - "abomination". Are you trying to manipulate my claims, so that I look like a "villager", in order to make me easy target for witches in the reverse-exorcism, or are you simply seeing black/white? Do the doctors call you "abomination" when you catch cold, where did you get that idea? I surely didn't write that.

edit: By the way, in reference to 9, you should check the link I posted above, as either you were tricked yourself into supporting homophilia, or you are a trickster-homophile yourself (the "if you don't like tea, you have fear of teas!" fail logic).
Post edited February 27, 2017 by Lin545
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zeogold: How ironic. The "WE ARE UNDER ATTACK" thread has come under political attack.
Can we not just keep this to reports of spam and have this discussion in a different thread?
That thread was closed.