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tinyE: This is cute.

The biggest spammer in the forum is reporting spam. :P
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Lord_Kane: Has he been spamming?
He averages twice a day.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/it_is_time_to_pay_attention_infowars/page1
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Lord_Kane: Has he been spamming?
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tinyE: He averages twice a day.
News and current events is not spam.
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tinyE: He averages twice a day.
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rtcvb32: News and current events is not spam.
Your posts aren't news or current events.

What's your point? :P
Post edited October 24, 2016 by tinyE
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Lord_Kane: Has he been spamming?
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tinyE: He averages twice a day.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/it_is_time_to_pay_attention_infowars/page1
TinyE with all due respect, I know and agree that infowars is complete garbage, but. he has the right to post it in that thread as that is why he made it, I respectfully suggest that you just leave him to it and ignore the thread. one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
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Lord_Kane: TinyE with all due respect, I know and agree that infowars is complete garbage, but. he has the right to post it in that thread as that is why he made it, I respectfully suggest that you just leave him to it and ignore the thread. one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
I see your point and I'll strongly consider it, out of respect for you and the way in which you have addressed me about it.
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Lord_Kane: TinyE with all due respect, I know and agree that infowars is complete garbage, but. he has the right to post it in that thread as that is why he made it, I respectfully suggest that you just leave him to it and ignore the thread. one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
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tinyE: I see your point and I'll strongly consider it, out of respect for you and the way in which you have addressed me about it.
Well you are a friend (at least thats how I see you) so I felt that was the only way to address it.
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Lord_Kane: one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
He already has been proven wrong over and over again. And he ignores that and continues to spam the same bullshit over and over again. Following your logic, as long as spammers make new thread to spam in, it's ok. Fine then - next time there appears athread about russian girls or something like that don't you dare report it.

I for one see much less of a problem with the nigerian princes of the world then people who willfully spread lies, misinformation and slander.
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Lord_Kane: one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
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Breja: He already has been proven wrong over and over again. And he ignores that and continues to spam the same bullshit over and over again. Following your logic, as long as spammers make new thread to spam in, it's ok. Fine then - next time there appears athread about russian girls or something like that don't you dare report it.

I for one see much less of a problem with the nigerian princes of the world then people who willfully spread lies, misinformation and slander.
I am not arguing about the content of his infowars thread Breja, not at all. I agree with you 100 percent about it, let me make that clear, but I feel in the case with those who are part of the church of alex jones if he doesnt do it there, he is going to do it in any thread that is about current events, if he does it in his own propaganda thread, then its contained and the people who go there can make up their own minds about the content therein, and while yes it is lies, misinformation and slander I agree with you there 100 percent but isnt the responsiblity on us to prove that it is? and let the will of the people decide? if we start forcing viewpoints then we would be no better then those Alex Jones claims are after him.

Censorship even with good intentions is still censorship.
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Lord_Kane: TinyE with all due respect, I know and agree that infowars is complete garbage, but. he has the right to post it in that thread as that is why he made it, I respectfully suggest that you just leave him to it and ignore the thread. one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
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tinyE: I see your point and I'll strongly consider it, out of respect for you and the way in which you have addressed me about it.
No,you wont because you don't know how.
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Lord_Kane: one day he may be proven right or wrong, but constant harassing him over what he believes is not the correct way to handle it, and so far as long as its contained to that thread I dont see an issue here.
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Breja: He already has been proven wrong over and over again. And he ignores that and continues to spam the same bullshit over and over again. Following your logic, as long as spammers make new thread to spam in, it's ok. Fine then - next time there appears athread about russian girls or something like that don't you dare report it.

I for one see much less of a problem with the nigerian princes of the world then people who willfully spread lies, misinformation and slander.
All you do is bullshit,so what's the difference?
Post edited October 24, 2016 by Tauto
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Breja: He already has been proven wrong over and over again. And he ignores that and continues ...
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Lord_Kane: and while yes it is lies, misinformation and slander I agree with you there 100 percent but isn't the responsibility on us to prove that it is?
To note, it's really hard to have a discussion and talk about things when it's constantly blanketed with 'conspiracy theory' and 'that source is discredited so you lost' arguments.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll admit it. But nothing so far has stood out that way. What's even weirder is when he talks about something, and then the next week there's an article exactly what he was talking about.

But we'll have to see. Although honestly I'd rather be wrong.
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Lord_Kane: and while yes it is lies, misinformation and slander I agree with you there 100 percent but isnt the responsiblity on us to prove that it is?
a) No. No it's not. The burden of proof always lies with the accuser.

b)Regardless of that, people have proven it in that thread over and over again.

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Lord_Kane: Censorship even with good intentions is still censorship.
It will never cease to amaze me how people use that word. It's not censorship. We're not going to put him in prison. He can go and start a blog, a vlog on YT, tweet to his heart's content or shout from a street corner. Wanting him to to stop polluting this forum with his bullshit is not censorship. Not any more than wanting any other spammer to GTFO. He was never even kind enough to answer my question of why he feels compelled to spam this here, rather then use any of the other options I mentioned, despite users asking him to stop again and again. Not only does he not stop, he doesn't even have the decency to answer that, and I asked him like four times.

Just imagine this isn't an internet forum, of on online store. Imagine this is a old fashined actuall gaming store, where people come to buy physical games, and the regulars also hang around, talk, sit at tables, play some of the games, talk about nerdy stuff, argue about D&D etc. And then one guy starts to preach that conspiracy stuff, he's just standing there, talking and talking, giving out pamflets about it - don't you think the people who hang around the store to have a good time have the right to ask him to stop or get out? Is that censorship?

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rtcvb32: If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll admit it. But nothing so far has stood out that way.
No you won't and yes it did. Numerous times. You're lying through you teeth and you know it. It has happened over and over in that thread, and you always just ignore it and keep spamming. You're lying, or you're genuinely so insane yoor mind doesn't register what is actually happening.
Post edited October 24, 2016 by Breja
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Lord_Kane: and while yes it is lies, misinformation and slander I agree with you there 100 percent but isnt the responsiblity on us to prove that it is?
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Breja: a) No. No it's not. The burden of proof always lies with the accuser.

b)Regardless of that, people have proven it in that thread over and over again.

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Lord_Kane: Censorship even with good intentions is still censorship.
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Breja: It will never cease to amaze me how people use that word. It's not censorship. We're not going to put him in prison. He can go and start a blog, a vlog on YT, tweet to his heart's content or shout from a street corner. Wanting him to to stop polluting this forum with his bullshit is not censorship. Not any more than wanting any other spammer to GTFO. He was never even kind enough to answer my question of why he feels compelled to spam this here, rather then use any of the other options I mentioned, despite users asking him to stop again and again. Not only does he not stop, he doesn't even have the decency to answer that, and I asked him like four times.

Just imagine this isn't an internet forum, of on online store. Imagine this is a old fashined actuall gaming store, where people come to buy physical games, and the regulars also hang around, talk, sit at tables, play some of the games, talk about nerdy stuff, argue about D&D etc. And then one guy starts to preach that conspiracy stuff, he's just standing there, talking and talking, giving out pamflets about it - don't you think the people who hang around the store to have a good time have the right to ask him to stop or get out? Is that censorship?
Ah I was not aware of that, as I never actually read the thread more then once so I apologize, it just seemed to me you guys where attacking him for his beliefs, but I am in the wrong here.
Post edited October 24, 2016 by Lord_Kane
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Breja: a) No. No it's not. The burden of proof always lies with the accuser.

b)Regardless of that, people have proven it in that thread over and over again.

It will never cease to amaze me how people use that word. It's not censorship. We're not going to put him in prison. He can go and start a blog, a vlog on YT, tweet to his heart's content or shout from a street corner. Wanting him to to stop polluting this forum with his bullshit is not censorship. Not any more than wanting any other spammer to GTFO. He was never even kind enough to answer my question of why he feels compelled to spam this here, rather then use any of the other options I mentioned, despite users asking him to stop again and again. Not only does he not stop, he doesn't even have the decency to answer that, and I asked him like four times.

Just imagine this isn't an internet forum, of on online store. Imagine this is a old fashined actuall gaming store, where people come to buy physical games, and the regulars also hang around, talk, sit at tables, play some of the games, talk about nerdy stuff, argue about D&D etc. And then one guy starts to preach that conspiracy stuff, he's just standing there, talking and talking, giving out pamflets about it - don't you think the people who hang around the store to have a good time have the right to ask him to stop or get out? Is that censorship?
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Lord_Kane: Ah I was not anywhere of that, as I never actually read the thread more then once so I apologize, it just seemed to me you guys where attacking him for his beliefs, but I am in the wrong here.
Well...I will admit there is room for improvement on my end and I am torn here. Yes I could ignore him but at the same time, I do feel what he is doing, even if all of his theories are right on, is harming the forum, This IS A GAME FORUM, not an Elect Donald Trump President Forum. Again I'm torn, because I'm always posting crap that has NOTHING to do with gaming myself, the difference is when someone calls me on it, I admit I'm being a dickhead and stop doing it. I think a little humility and common courtesy on his end could go a long way to getting Breja and myself off of his ass. I admit I'm wrong 100 times a day. I'd like to see him do it once. :P
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tinyE: This IS A GAME FORUM
And this is a general thread, not strictly related to games.

There's threads about guessing movies, programming, Single words, Technical advice for buying hardware, OS issues, book clubs, games that make good porn titles, avatars, advertisements, music, rants, youtube channels (gaming and otherwise), DRM, Internet & Internet speed, beliefs and morals...

And that's mostly glancing at the last few days and a few off the top of my head.
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tinyE: This IS A GAME FORUM
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rtcvb32: And this is a general thread, not strictly related to games.

There's threads about guessing movies, programming, Single words, Technical advice for buying hardware, OS issues, book clubs, games that make good porn titles, avatars, advertisements, music, rants, youtube channels (gaming and otherwise), DRM, Internet & Internet speed, beliefs and morals...

And that's mostly glancing at the last few days and a few off the top of my head.
Look its a GENERAL DISCUSSION FORUM
that means anything can be discussed

Even alex jones and as long as rtcvb32 keeps it to his thread, we should be fine with it, I dont care if you agree with it or not, if you find it spammy, you find it spammy, but rtcvb32 has promised to keep it contained there, and as far to my knowledge he has, but technically, it isnt spam. and yes I am sorry to Breja for calling it censorship that was the WRONG use of the word. but as far as I see, it aint harming anyone, he isnt spreading software that will harm your computer, he isnt threatening people, there is no risk of harm (except maybe intellectually) but weather or not you agree with me on this I dont care, just leave the guy alone as long as he contributes to the other forum sections and keeps his alex jones propaganda to his thread its fine. let bygones be bygones, let people be people both smart and dumb.

Dont like what is posted on the thread? dont read it. I dont for that reason, but I aint going to single rtcvb32 out because of it, and think of him any less because of it either.

If you view me differently because this is my view of the situation, then so be it, but it wont change my respect for Breja, Tauto, rtcb32 or TinyE because ultimately we are still a community of drm free gamers and I respect you all because of it.

thats my rant and two cents about it.
Post edited October 24, 2016 by Lord_Kane