Move on, you've won.

Won what? My Steam games still seem to work today, just like yesterday and the day before that going on 10+ years now.

And we don't know when that is going to happen. Months, years, probably decades?

For all we know modern online DRM games server would shut down when pigs learn to fly.

Halo 1 was released back in 2001, it's servers are still up and running even after more than a decade.

Sure Halo does not have drm but other games do.

Unfortunately I don't think that the truth is quite so flattering. If you were to determine the average gamer IQ it would fall far short of the 100 mark. On average, gamers aren't that bright and publishers have been exploiting the hell out of that fact for a long, long time now. That's why the games industry has the most ludicrously bad outright contempt demonstrated for its customers of any industry. They can get away with it, so that's what they do.

It's a bit like how dolphins are much more highly regarded than shrimp. As gamers, we're in the shrimp category.

Not as with my case, again. I certainly hope you don't run into those bad experiences as it'll hurt you. A lot. The service is designed to work well ONLY if you always play well with them, which not a majority of people could achieve consistently.

I thought shrimp are the console gamers and we are somewhere on the tuna level. ;)

Pigs learn to fly? Then they should be flying now, where are these flying pigs?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130802/12464524046/ea-faces-class-action-suit-over-sports-titles-online-gaming.shtml
http://whosgamingnow.net/discussion/16/complete-list-of-game-titles-shutdown
http://www.ea.com/1/service-updates
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/03/gamespy-multiplayer-shutting-down-hundreds-of-games-at-risk

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But the tuna consist of the mobiles and gamers that don't mind DRM or not strong willed enough to resist it.

Those strong enough to resist it is at the plankton level. Even me myself is just one foot in the plankton level, while 90% of my games funds is on GoG, I can't resist helping some developers when they go steam only because I have good experience with them. Thankfully Stardock comes to GoG now.

I think you'll have trouble finding anyone here who says "I like DRMs". "I like Steam" or "I like this DRM'd game" are possible, but it's not the DRM itself that will be liked, just the rest of the service/game.
But some will not be as bothered by DRM as you are. Everybody has its own priorities. Personally, I'm middle ground, DRMfree in games is a nice bonus but not sort of some holy cause (I'm more concerned about DRMs in ebooks).

No reason to go all high and mighty over it like you were personaly insulted.

And especially no reason to throw insults yourself, like the way you incidentally put "DRM lover" just after your 2 sayings about pigs. Not cool, man. :/

See what you will, pig-headed avatar.

This discussion should be about why people go the piracy route for products they are clearly using to their fullest (game = play through) and are not ready to pay good money for good products.

Instead we are still at the level weather DRM itself is good just because we have Steam users here clearly so far invested in this shit, they don't even want to admit it's bad contrary to e.g. GOG. Pathetic.

sooo... when you say "majority" - which population are you revering to? The population of Zimbabwe? Because if you are talking about gamers in the western world - you have about 10M currently online players disagreeing with you.

Or did you mean gOg users? Then this is also not quite as cleat cut, as most gOg users do not even frequent the forums, and they are also Steam users who use gOg as it is intended - i.e. just anther game store among many.

Or did you mean "people who have problems with Steam" - in which case ... it is self-explanatory....

Yes, I know you had problems with Steam, and I do know some people do - but it does not make it a majority.

Personally , I have not said whether DRM is good or bad at all in this discussion. What I have objected to is the terms being used. I feel if you really want to combat DRM - try to be a grownup. you get more respect that way and have a better chance of influencing people.... But from your last post here, I guess you disagree. Me feeling is that an approach like yours do the movement more harm than good.

As it's mentioned before, if a 'majority' of people had issues accessing Steam on a regular basis then it would not even have a quarter of the amount of people buying off the platform as it does now.

It had even more issues at its launch, I seriously don't know how it rocketed. So it can't be issues that are pulling the average joes in. How I view it though is that the big players started being enticed by 'ooooh, free DRM!' and then started using Steam. Gamers being not really bright, they jumped ship to a broken mess because that was their only way. Why do you think Valve rocketed then despite the VERY rocky start?

Exactly. People tend to forget, that all this DRM business costs a lot of money (which could have been invested into content or fixing bugs, btw).
After publishers started putting most PC games on Steam for DRM, gamers had three choices:
a) give in
b) pirate
c) stop extending their library

I chose c) for several years and only started buying games again here on GoG and the old Humble Bundle, not the current Humble Steam Bundle as it is now.

Most people will have chosen a mix of a) and b), I guess.

What? Hahahahahahaha! say again, hahahahahah!

Damn these die-hard Steam cultists are great for a laugh.