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General discussionValve's Steam Machines Have Run Out Of Steam(126 posts)(126 posts)
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Posted June 04, 2016
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vicklemos: They're in for the long term, I suppose. Hard to know what will happen; can definitely tell that the way the """advertised""" it was simply surreal. In the worst way, I mean.
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snowkatt: so you mean it wil be a money tar pit trap and wil linger for a slog as valve can afford it before they pull the plug in 2025 after it cost them north of 5 billion ?
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tinyE: I got us way off topic, sorry.

Can someone explain to me exactly WHAT the Steam Machine did and why anyone would want one?
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snowkatt: and in so far i know a steam machine made it "easier" to have the console experience with a "pc"
I accomplished that with a controller I bought on Amazon for $25. :P
Posted June 04, 2016
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snowkatt: so you mean it wil be a money tar pit trap and wil linger for a slog as valve can afford it before they pull the plug in 2025 after it cost them north of 5 billion ?

and in so far i know a steam machine made it "easier" to have the console experience with a "pc"
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tinyE: I accomplished that with a controller I bought on Amazon for $25. :P
the real reason valve sunk money in the steam machines was because it was a back up plan in case microsoft went flippy and turned windows in to a walled garden
that didnt happen
so now its a machine with out a market

considering windows 10 however things may change
but currently the steam machines are pretty much shite and dead in the water
Posted June 04, 2016
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snowkatt: so you mean it wil be a money tar pit trap and wil linger for a slog as valve can afford it before they pull the plug in 2025 after it cost them north of 5 billion ?
Onlly the gawd above knows ;P
All I know is that you jus can't market something that way, especially something with so much potential and stuff..
Posted June 04, 2016
When I read about this arstechnica.com article yesterday I decided to go to 3 of my local GameStops

In that 7 months time frame I asked all 3 of those GameStop's managers how many Steam Machines sold in their stores, 2 of them said none of them sold at all they were just sitting there, the 3rd GameStop manager said he managed to sell only 1 Steam Machine in that 7 months.

They also seem to feel like bridges have been burned between GameStop and VALVe. The managers also said they heard worse stories all over the country.

I went to a Best Buy and the Best Buy manager told me that they only sold 10 in that 7 months.

I think a total of only 10,000 Steam Machines have sold world wide. 20,000 if I'm going tops.

The Alienware Alpha or whatever that is sold has Windows 10 on it.

I see a lot of people who asked friends about the Steam Machines wanting to replace their consoles and they are told they don't have Day 1 video games released for sale on it because of SteamOS or Linux and they are asked what's the point? And they decide to purchase a PlayStation 4 (PS4) or Xbox One.

Due to GameStop, not the CEO but the managers feeling bridges burned between them and VALVe. I do not see the Steam Machines being a long term bet. VALVe will just quit having them be sold in the next 2 years.

VALVe needs to go back to developing and improving software you know like video games.

Half-Life 3 please VALVe and Portal 3, and Day of Defeat 2? and a new IP.
Posted June 04, 2016
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Johnathanamz: Half-Life 3 please VALVe and Portal 3, and Day of Defeat 2? and a new IP.
if valve launched the steam machines with half life 3 and portal 3 it would have sold like gangbusters
but apparently that wasnt what they were going for
Posted June 04, 2016
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Johnathanamz: Half-Life 3 please VALVe and Portal 3, and Day of Defeat 2? and a new IP.
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snowkatt: if valve launched the steam machines with half life 3 and portal 3 it would have sold like gangbusters
but apparently that wasnt what they were going for
Well one things for sure, the 3 GameStop managers feel like bridges have been burned between GameStop and VALVe in terms of business to sell hardware, but for selling software like video games they feel like that's what VALVe is good at and should just sell video games instead at GameStop.
Posted June 04, 2016
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Posted June 04, 2016
Yep, I knew this was a bad idea from the get go, Just like those shitty steam achievements and those annoying card drops!

Quite frankly I'm amazed sparks didn't start shooting out of it!
Post edited June 04, 2016 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted June 04, 2016
I think unless valve can secure day 1 Linux release for AAA games steam machine won't be appealing to anyone. I read many discussion asking if they should buy one and always answered 'just build a PC and buy the controller'
Posted June 04, 2016
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Fairfox: Valve has turned into teh suck; all that hosting of mobile gamies has rotted their collective brain :/
At this point if VALVe keeps on developing Steam Machines to manufacturers and it doesn't sell like 1 million or more in the next 2 years and doesn't end up developing brand new video games to sell, slowly but surely people will leave Steam.

Reading on neogaf people who start saying now that CD Projekt RED is better they have their own store front and develop and sell video games.

Imagine one day gog.com being as big as Steam and there still no Half-Life 3 sold on Steam by then and CD Projekt RED has Cyberpunk 2077, some new video game IP, Cyberpunk 2100, another new video game IP, maybe bought out some classic old abandoned video games to develop new sequels to sell for them all on gog.com.

Meanwhile it is the year 2025 and still no Half-Lfie 3 for sale on Steam...
Posted June 04, 2016
Scrap the machines, focus on the controller (which is apparently very good)
Posted June 04, 2016
It's the same conundrum facing Linux gaming in general (and GOG as well): people want to play specific big name title X which is only available on platform A. Developers of title X don't want to bring it to platform B because 'too small market share and, eh, so much work to port'. Ergo, platform B's market share cannot grow.
A gross exaggeration on my part, but you get the picture.
Post edited June 04, 2016 by SCPM
Posted June 04, 2016
The amount of units sold is only poor in relation to the investment that Valve put into the project, it's very early days and let's face it the Steam Machines are only really going to interest a certain type of person but Valve are in it for the long run and it could end up being quite viable as a VR/ gaming machine but it's not something that would ever appeal to me.
Posted June 04, 2016
Er...could somebody explain to me what these things are? I'm familiar with the controller, but these, I never heard about.
Posted June 04, 2016
I'm laughing. I already knew this was coming. This will teach Valve not to do anything unnecessary.

Linux for gaming on a console-like device. That's just ridiculous combo.



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Johnathanamz: At this point if VALVe keeps on developing Steam Machines to manufacturers and it doesn't sell like 1 million or more in the next 2 years and doesn't end up developing brand new video games to sell, slowly but surely people will leave Steam.

Reading on neogaf people who start saying now that CD Projekt RED is better they have their own store front and develop and sell video games.

Imagine one day gog.com being as big as Steam and there still no Half-Life 3 sold on Steam by then and CD Projekt RED has Cyberpunk 2077, some new video game IP, Cyberpunk 2100, another new video game IP, maybe bought out some classic old abandoned video games to develop new sequels to sell for them all on gog.com.

Meanwhile it is the year 2025 and still no Half-Lfie 3 for sale on Steam...
You've been bitching about Steam and you're now complaining about no Half Life 3? Are you moron or what?

Half Life 3 meme is getting old.
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