tinyE: for fuck's sake, someone close this thing already
morolf: Why, it's stayed quite civil so far, and nobody forces you to read it.
FlyByU: There is it's called the Democrat party, and it was infiltrated back in the 1920's by the 1990 they became a communist party. Several Republican's are also Communist in ideal as well. Funny how Russia got out of that mess, and stupid people in the USA want to try it out.
morolf: Communism means a planned economy, state ownership of the means of production, collectivized agriculture, a Marxist view of history. You can't really claim that Democrats and Republicans stand for any of this. Nobody of importance in today's USA proposes a hardcore alternative to capitalism. So the communist label is inappropriate.
“The Communist Manifesto,” published in 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, is considered the pivotal moment in people starting to use the terms ... that transition, called socialism, the representatives of people should be in charge of the means of production, and guide the society toward communism.
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels stated in the Communist Manifesto and later works that "the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat".
AKA Democrat Ideals AKA Communist Ideals.