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BKGaming: It would most likley be a calculated appropriate response like in Syria.
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morolf: The difference is that unlike Syria North Korea actually has the means to hit back,
No they don't. NK is a puppet of China they do not do anything without thee Okay of China including threats to the USA and its allies. NK would not last 7 days in all out war with SK and the USA. China will not allow their puppet to be destroyed just like in 1950's when they came to their aid they will do so again. So whatever NK does China needs to pay as well.
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morolf: The difference is that unlike Syria North Korea actually has the means to hit back,
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FlyByU: No they don't. NK is a puppet of China they do not do anything without thee Okay of China including threats to the USA and its allies. NK would not last 7 days in all out war with SK and the USA. China will not allow their puppet to be destroyed just like in 1950's when they came to their aid they will do so again. So whatever NK does China needs to pay as well.
Claiming they're a mere puppet of China is an exaggeration, in fact it seems Kim Jong-Un purged his uncle and others because they were seen as too close to China. China does have some economic leverage over NK, but they can't just order them around.
And you think war with China might be a good idea???? Well, good luck then!
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FlyByU: No they don't. NK is a puppet of China they do not do anything without thee Okay of China including threats to the USA and its allies. NK would not last 7 days in all out war with SK and the USA. China will not allow their puppet to be destroyed just like in 1950's when they came to their aid they will do so again. So whatever NK does China needs to pay as well.
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morolf: Claiming they're a mere puppet of China is an exaggeration, in fact it seems Kim Jong-Un purged his uncle and others because they were seen as too close to China. China does have some economic leverage over NK, but they can't just order them around.
And you think war with China might be a good idea???? Well, good luck then!
A good Commie is a dead one!
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FlyByU: A good Commie is a dead one!
Both China and North Korea aren't really communist in any meaningful sense nowadays. China is basically nationalist...and North Korea is ultra-nationalist, with the racial purity of the Korean people one of their core values.
Anyway, if there's war you should be drafted if you're so enthusiastic about it.
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Tauto: President Trump is doing a great job and he will go into history as a great reformer and a credit for lifting the U.S.out of the Obama tip.And next week we might get a secret society caught out and named.Stay tuned folks,that is unless you are on the far left and consider all he has done as rubbish and can prove it.That's right,I'm far right and nothing you can say will change my view but being just plain stupid is the left and you keep sucking up the bullshit from the Washington Post as it leads you around by the nose.Have a nice day.
Pass the drugs man I want to smoke that crap and hallucinate too
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morolf: Claiming they're a mere puppet of China is an exaggeration, in fact it seems Kim Jong-Un purged his uncle and others because they were seen as too close to China. China does have some economic leverage over NK, but they can't just order them around.
And you think war with China might be a good idea???? Well, good luck then!
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FlyByU: A good Commie is a dead one!
Sometimes I think there are more talks about Communism in USA than in anywhere else. ;D
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FlyByU: A good Commie is a dead one!
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vsr: Sometimes I think there are more talks about Communism in USA than in anywhere else. ;D
There is it's called the Democrat party, and it was infiltrated back in the 1920's by the 1990 they became a communist party. Several Republican's are also Communist in ideal as well. Funny how Russia got out of that mess, and stupid people in the USA want to try it out.
Post edited January 25, 2018 by FlyByU
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Post edited January 26, 2018 by tinyE
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tinyE: for fuck's sake, someone close this thing already
Why, it's stayed quite civil so far, and nobody forces you to read it.
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vsr: Sometimes I think there are more talks about Communism in USA than in anywhere else. ;D
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FlyByU: There is it's called the Democrat party, and it was infiltrated back in the 1920's by the 1990 they became a communist party. Several Republican's are also Communist in ideal as well. Funny how Russia got out of that mess, and stupid people in the USA want to try it out.
Communism means a planned economy, state ownership of the means of production, collectivized agriculture, a Marxist view of history. You can't really claim that Democrats and Republicans stand for any of this. Nobody of importance in today's USA proposes a hardcore alternative to capitalism. So the communist label is inappropriate.
Post edited January 25, 2018 by morolf
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FlyByU: A good Commie is a dead one!
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vsr: Sometimes I think there are more talks about Communism in USA than in anywhere else. ;D
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FlyByU: There is it's called the Democrat party, and it was infiltrated back in the 1920's by the 1990 they became a communist party. Several Republican's are also Communist in ideal as well. Funny how Russia got out of that mess, and stupid people in the USA want to try it out.
=> A good democrat is a dead one. And a good "several republicans" too. :-/
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tinyE: for fuck's sake, someone close this thing already
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morolf: Why, it's stayed quite civil so far, and nobody forces you to read it.
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FlyByU: There is it's called the Democrat party, and it was infiltrated back in the 1920's by the 1990 they became a communist party. Several Republican's are also Communist in ideal as well. Funny how Russia got out of that mess, and stupid people in the USA want to try it out.
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morolf: Communism means a planned economy, state ownership of the means of production, collectivized agriculture, a Marxist view of history. You can't really claim that Democrats and Republicans stand for any of this. Nobody of importance in today's USA proposes a hardcore alternative to capitalism. So the communist label is inappropriate.
“The Communist Manifesto,” published in 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, is considered the pivotal moment in people starting to use the terms ... that transition, called socialism, the representatives of people should be in charge of the means of production, and guide the society toward communism.

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels stated in the Communist Manifesto and later works that "the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat".

AKA Democrat Ideals AKA Communist Ideals.
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FlyByU: “The Communist Manifesto,” published in 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, is considered the pivotal moment in people starting to use the terms ... that transition, called socialism, the representatives of people should be in charge of the means of production, and guide the society toward communism.

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels stated in the Communist Manifesto and later works that "the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat".

AKA Democrat Ideals AKA Communist Ideals.
The US Democrats are in favor of the dictatorship of the proletariat????
As a foreign observer, I was under the impression they're only a bit less plutocratic than the Republicans and stopped caring much about the working class a few decades ago...and anyway, even back during FDR's New Deal they weren't about socialism in the European sense, let alone communism.
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FlyByU: “The Communist Manifesto,” published in 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, is considered the pivotal moment in people starting to use the terms ... that transition, called socialism, the representatives of people should be in charge of the means of production, and guide the society toward communism.

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels stated in the Communist Manifesto and later works that "the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat".

AKA Democrat Ideals AKA Communist Ideals.
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morolf: The US Democrats are in favor of the dictatorship of the proletariat????
As a foreign observer, I was under the impression they're only a bit less plutocratic than the Republicans and stopped caring much about the working class a few decades ago...and anyway, even back during FDR's New Deal they weren't about socialism in the European sense, let alone communism.
When people do socialism, it's democratizing; when govt's do socialism, it has the opposite effect.

FDR and the New Dealers loved socialism -- *inverse* socialism -- meaning socialism for the privileged few.
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tinyE: for fuck's sake, someone close this thing already
You know, if you weren't pathologically compelled to post in every single thread despite having nothing to say, we could have just spam reported the necro post and sent this thread back to where it was.
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Post edited January 26, 2018 by tinyE