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Posted November 25, 2014
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P1na: I'm going to bump this a bit, as I'm still concern about the measures planned in case of alien invasion.
be more concerned about the GOGbear underground!
Post edited November 25, 2014 by Sachys
Posted November 25, 2014
Hmm interesting. Seems like much of it is aimed at the new client coming out.
Posted November 25, 2014
I want to keep using gog services. So i need to have my questions answered, please. Pretty please? Providing short, accurate answers for merely 2 small questions, isn't that hard now, is it?

2.2 When you buy or install GOG games, you might have to agree to additional contract terms with the developer/publisher of the game (e.g. they might ask you to agree to a game specific End User Licence Agreement).
Damn, does this mean possible DRM intrusion, sneakily, the back door, legal way?

7.1 Occasionally we may need to patch or update GOG service s or GOG content (for example to add or remove features or to resolve software bugs). We need these rights in order to keep GOG.com running efficiently.
Add or remove features? Like that Rockstar stunt over there at Steam's, deleting soundtrack (game content) from a legally purchased game, later on?
Post edited November 25, 2014 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Posted November 25, 2014
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: I want to keep using gog services. So i need to have my questions answered, please. Pretty please? Providing short, accurate answers for merely 2 small questions, isn't that hard now, is it?

2.2 When you buy or install GOG games, you might have to agree to additional contract terms with the developer/publisher of the game (e.g. they might ask you to agree to a game specific End User Licence Agreement).
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Damn, does this mean possible DRM intrusion, sneakily, the back door, legal way?
It shouldn't.


7.1 Occasionally we may need to patch or update GOG service s or GOG content (for example to add or remove features or to resolve software bugs). We need these rights in order to keep GOG.com running efficiently.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Add or remove features? Like that Rockstar stunt over there at Steam's, deleting soundtrack (game content) from a legally purchased game, later on?
Like the Imperial Glory Mac removal, tracks from soundtracks (or entire soundtracks) being removed from bonus contents, developers' CD being removed from Uplink, The Witcher calendar changing from 2012 to 2013. If you already have the files on your disk, they won't be modified. If you don't have them, you'll have to grab the new ones.
No idea how that interacts with Galaxy.
Posted November 25, 2014
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: I want to keep using gog services. So i need to have my questions answered, please. Pretty please? Providing short, accurate answers for merely 2 small questions, isn't that hard now, is it?

Damn, does this mean possible DRM intrusion, sneakily, the back door, legal way?
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JMich: It shouldn't.

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Add or remove features? Like that Rockstar stunt over there at Steam's, deleting soundtrack (game content) from a legally purchased game, later on?
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JMich: Like the Imperial Glory Mac removal, tracks from soundtracks (or entire soundtracks) being removed from bonus contents, developers' CD being removed from Uplink, The Witcher calendar changing from 2012 to 2013. If you already have the files on your disk, they won't be modified. If you don't have them, you'll have to grab the new ones.
No idea how that interacts with Galaxy.
Hey man, you are clockwork. Very dependable! Glad to have people around like you. Even if you are part steam man.

The witcher calendar was actually pretty nice. I loved having it printed and hanged. Very considerate from gog to keep it updated. But i actually was worried about USEFUL content being updated/removed (steam style). Thanks. Yet, i would still like some clarification and confirmation (reassurance mostly) from a blue person...
Post edited November 25, 2014 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Posted November 25, 2014
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Sachys: be more concerned about the GOGbear underground!
You mean GOG uses slave labor underground to hold the world's surface in place? And they're planning to rebel? This sounds awfully lovecraftian, but luckily gogbears are cute and cute things would never do anything to harm humans. Right? ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
Posted November 25, 2014
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: But i actually was worried about USEFUL content being updated/removed (steam style).
Like soundtracks, developers' CD, mac versions? Yes, they have been updated/removed in the past. If you already had the files, you still had the files, though you couldn't download them again. No idea if/how Galaxy changes that though, and I also can't recall them removing game content from the installers, though there have been comments about languages being removed (not sure about it though).
Posted November 25, 2014
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Sachys: be more concerned about the GOGbear underground!
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P1na: You mean GOG uses slave labor underground to hold the world's surface in place? And they're planning to rebel? This sounds awfully lovecraftian, but luckily gogbears are cute and cute things would never do anything to harm humans. Right? ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
SERVERS - not surface.

...and yes I fear they may be people eaters of the non purple variety!
Posted November 25, 2014
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Sachys: SERVERS - not surface.

...and yes I fear they may be people eaters of the non purple variety!
*gasp* non purple variety? But that's the worse variety!

Don't... don't tell me the man from delmonte is involved in this as well?
Posted November 25, 2014
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Starmaker: You "own" it in the same sense adults "own" their accounts, but your parent or guardian should consent to it.
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Nirth: Should? That doesn't sound like a word that belongs in laws. Besides, what if they they aren't aware? I was merely curious if there was anything more than plausible deniability for a company's protection.
??? Is there anything lost in translation?
If you're an unemancipated kid, your parents/guardians have the final say on whether you can use an online service such as GOG, Steam, and Facebook (to prevent child exploitation and whatnot). If they don't consent, you can't use it. GOG assumes that if you're a kid who signed up for the service, you have your parents' permission. If you actually don't and it comes up, GOG reserves the right to cancel the hell out of your account for aggravated tosbreaking.
Posted November 25, 2014
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gamesfreak64: ... in case someone gets onto your accounts and redeems all the gift codes you have.

-> aha.... well assuming that:

there is no breach in GOG, or being attacked
NOONE guesses the PW i make they are impossible to remember or to guess because they are illogical
goes for all online accounts i have
i dont know any pw by head, its impossible .... cause they simply dont make sence

noone will spends days on that , i think they rather try a bank acces then game accounts :D
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Pheace: That's because currently a GOG account has no value. In the future, with store credit and there possibly being a trading market (cross region trading creating a regular buyerbase) there could be *some* value to getting someone else's account, though it would have to grow for a couple of years to be worth anything I imagine. But who knows what they'll add in the future.

If, and for whatever reason, someone in the future is after someone else's GOG account however, please don't think a 'complex' password is going to save you from it. How complex it is is meaningless when the bulk of security compromises these days is through phishing or malware, both disregarding your password entirely.
most online acounts already have an option to deposit real cash into either the local curency or online currency depending of the site

gamersgate uses bluecoins , so.....
lol i never upgrade to more then 10 maybe 20 bucks, then i also buy something using those store credits, so what could be possibly in reserve in my case? 5 lousy bucks....
So i dont see the problem :D

about phishing:
if the windows is up2date, the browser is up2date, and you have a good AV and a malware (realtime) then your 90% covered , erst is up to the user, never click on anything you see, eventhough it looks like i came from a trusted source,
there are many scams pretending to be youtube or google, stating that your account will be deleted if you dont take action by clicking a certain link.
Every person who fall for that nonsense is subject to malware and phishing dont believe evrything you see or read, always check for yourself never click on everything....

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: I want to keep using gog services. So i need to have my questions answered, please. Pretty please? Providing short, accurate answers for merely 2 small questions, isn't that hard now, is it?

2.2 When you buy or install GOG games, you might have to agree to additional contract terms with the developer/publisher of the game (e.g. they might ask you to agree to a game specific End User Licence Agreement).
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Damn, does this mean possible DRM intrusion, sneakily, the back door, legal way?

7.1 Occasionally we may need to patch or update GOG service s or GOG content (for example to add or remove features or to resolve software bugs). We need these rights in order to keep GOG.com running efficiently.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Add or remove features? Like that Rockstar stunt over there at Steam's, deleting soundtrack (game content) from a legally purchased game, later on?
ouch that would be sneaky it it would happen.....
google on buy legit drm free music .... you get tons of results, also the story that itunes removed DRM from the music but, the drm be still active on other things like audiobooks, movie etc etc etc

Another nice thing i discoverd (google is our friend :D)
It sems that eventhough the old drm is gone from the mpo3 music you buy, it seems they use a certain 'watermark' or some like it.... this way youre not limited to listen the music on 1 device, you can now use it on many devices :D
BUT that 'watermark' will check to see and compare if it has been legally bought .... so it has a check to prove and compare if its a legit mp3.
basically they kill that bad awfull drm from the music you bought, , but they still have to use another mean thing that we cant see, we dont know it and we cant see anything sending info....
So basically they will always see the musicbuyer as a potential thief.

Well thats typically the music industry those blighters bite the hand that feeds them :D

edit: googled
and i found some older posts, the latest i can find for now was 2012, but the watermark in mp3 (instead of DRM)is still used apparently.
Just because a number of people did/ have done/ do bad things, the entertainment sees all people as infringers
thats kinda sore for us the people who do buy the stuff legit.....
Post edited November 25, 2014 by gamesfreak64
Posted November 25, 2014
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P1na: I'm going to bump this a bit, as I'm still concern about the measures planned in case of alien invasion.
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Sachys: be more concerned about the GOGbear underground!
lol GOGbear....


bear is beiing used as a name for cops/police isnt it ?;D

"Bear"
a police officer.


Old movie Convoy (chris christofferson) i think i have the movie on dvd (bought of course)
there's a funny song
nice classic funny movie
and of course smokey and the bandit 1,2,3 (own them on collection dvd)

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KiNgBrAdLeY7: But i actually was worried about USEFUL content being updated/removed (steam style).
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JMich: Like soundtracks, developers' CD, mac versions? Yes, they have been updated/removed in the past. If you already had the files, you still had the files, though you couldn't download them again. No idea if/how Galaxy changes that though, and I also can't recall them removing game content from the installers, though there have been comments about languages being removed (not sure about it though).
'watermarks'..............
old article, but since old habits die hard, i dont expect those music blighters to come clean so that watermark stuff is still in it i assume:D

link:
the-digital-reader.com/2012/12/26/ars-reports-that-the-recording-industry-dropped-drm-thats-not-true

i gues theres plenty more naughty stuff thats beiing done by the big bad music boys
Post edited November 25, 2014 by gamesfreak64
Posted November 25, 2014
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gamesfreak64: 'watermarks'..............
old article, but since old habits die hard, i dont expect those music blighters to come clean so that watermark stuff is still in it i assume:D
Watermarking is not DRM. DRM prevents you from using unauthorized content (or content seen as unauthorized), watermark uniquely identifies the file. You can still copy the file, pass the file and use the file on as many machines as you want, but the origin of the file is visible. Similar to the VIN on a car's engine.

And GOG didn't use any watermarkings, since that would make the digital signing of the installers a huge pain, not to mention the logistics of distributing those.
Posted November 25, 2014
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Nirth: Should? That doesn't sound like a word that belongs in laws. Besides, what if they they aren't aware? I was merely curious if there was anything more than plausible deniability for a company's protection.
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Starmaker: ??? Is there anything lost in translation?
If you're an unemancipated kid, your parents/guardians have the final say on whether you can use an online service such as GOG, Steam, and Facebook (to prevent child exploitation and whatnot). If they don't consent, you can't use it. GOG assumes that if you're a kid who signed up for the service, you have your parents' permission. If you actually don't and it comes up, GOG reserves the right to cancel the hell out of your account for aggravated tosbreaking.
well lucky for me i am old .... i dont need anyones permission for anything :D
Posted November 25, 2014
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gamesfreak64: 'watermarks'..............
old article, but since old habits die hard, i dont expect those music blighters to come clean so that watermark stuff is still in it i assume:D
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JMich: Watermarking is not DRM. DRM prevents you from using unauthorized content (or content seen as unauthorized), watermark uniquely identifies the file. You can still copy the file, pass the file and use the file on as many machines as you want, but the origin of the file is visible. Similar to the VIN on a car's engine.

And GOG didn't use any watermarkings, since that would make the digital signing of the installers a huge pain, not to mention the logistics of distributing those.
true... but it is a form of limitation, and most people don't like it , if they didnot care then there wouldn't be so many posts about it on the internet.

I think its about time that windows gets a new feature: a possibility to see what traffic is beiing send and received by each program (.exe or dll) that is on our disk
and an option to block it, as for now that windowsfirewall is shit, it doesnt do anything.
I am very curious of what is beiing send and received behind our backs....

i have a good antimalware and AV , sometimes so called installers contain PUP (potentially unwanted program)

google on
PUPS are Persistent

ignore the articles about dogs and wolves :D
few results show up from various av and antimalware tools, check these out

mcaffee says: PUPs are usually made by a legitimate corporate entity
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