Posted March 19, 2014
wpegg
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DarzaR
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Posted March 19, 2014
DarzaR: They are different communities who hate(?) eachother(?). I need some information first. What exactly website do you mean?
wpegg: I would like to know who is corrupting Prince Harry to put him on the Russian throne. wpegg
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Posted March 19, 2014
DarzaR: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383100/Former-Kremlin-diplomat-calls-Prince-Harry-vacant-throne.html#ixzz1LMQCeWTs , most other sources are russian, so im not sure what they are of real use for you. And they are mostly social-network based i guess, so dont expect hilarious webdesign features anyway.
Thankyou. I believe I can solve one of your conspiracy theories for you. There is a man called Paul Dacre. He is a particularly extremist news editor that likes to shock, or simply surprise people into buying his paper. I suggest you read up on him to understand that that story was in part in jest, and in part a part of his instanity.DarzaR
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Posted March 19, 2014
DarzaR: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383100/Former-Kremlin-diplomat-calls-Prince-Harry-vacant-throne.html#ixzz1LMQCeWTs , most other sources are russian, so im not sure what they are of real use for you. And they are mostly social-network based i guess, so dont expect hilarious webdesign features anyway.
wpegg: Thankyou. I believe I can solve one of your conspiracy theories for you. There is a man called Paul Dacre. He is a particularly extremist news editor that likes to shock, or simply surprise people into buying his paper. I suggest you read up on him to understand that that story was in part in jest, and in part a part of his instanity. wpegg
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DarzaR
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From Russian Federation
Posted March 19, 2014
1. Did you read the article? 2. How come it somehow become "my conspiracy", my exact words, because i damn need to improve my language skills. In short - why you are now disproving something, what was claimed only by you?
Trilarion
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From Germany
Posted March 23, 2014
Just reading a bit from the beginnings of the crisis as it was discussed here from one month ago. And so much happened since then.
On the other hand the coming weeks have the risk of it getting even worse. I heard today that russian troops concentrate on the border to Ukraine. It may be propaganda or just conincidence but it also may be the very first beginning of a war. My estimation now is that Putin might be crazy enough to try such a thing.
But we will get to know.
Did I already say that I'm scared. I guess I mentioned that later in this thread about one or two times. And in this context I couldn't care less for Crimea or what happens there as long as Russia doesn't attack somewhere else. Maybe that is the goal of the whole thing or maybe not.
Shadow0603: ...
What an allegation. But well, it was half true, occupation was guessed right, only occupying country was the wrong one. Trilarion: In principle Yanukovich should already be facing trials because of existing anti corruption laws (if they exist). It shouldn't be a task for the opposition to help him out of office. Obviously everything that is democratic is very weak in the Ukraine. A failed state. We have a chance to help there, mostly financial in case they do the right thing. Ukraine is very close to germany, just one country away. We have to help the democracy and fight the corruption and save people from getting killed. That is what I would demand as principle guided behavior. I hope it comes across as non too propaganda misled talk. :)
Shadow0603: Well, Germany can occupy Ukraine and bring the light of democracy, but I doubt that you ready to pay the price:). On the other hand the coming weeks have the risk of it getting even worse. I heard today that russian troops concentrate on the border to Ukraine. It may be propaganda or just conincidence but it also may be the very first beginning of a war. My estimation now is that Putin might be crazy enough to try such a thing.
But we will get to know.
Did I already say that I'm scared. I guess I mentioned that later in this thread about one or two times. And in this context I couldn't care less for Crimea or what happens there as long as Russia doesn't attack somewhere else. Maybe that is the goal of the whole thing or maybe not.
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From Serbia
Posted March 23, 2014
It's very funny to me to realize we're just playthings of big countries. And that it's mostly animal farm logic when independence is concerned: some people can declare independence yet some can't. When it was cool to rip apart my country nobody even mentioned our territorial integrity yet now Ukraine's territory is sacrosanct :D
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From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2014
dr.zli: It's very funny to me to realize we're just playthings of big countries. And that it's mostly animal farm logic when independence is concerned: some people can declare independence yet some can't. When it was cool to rip apart my country nobody even mentioned our territorial integrity yet now Ukraine's territory is sacrosanct :D
I think "funny" is not a right word for such things.Crosmando
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Posted March 24, 2014
Oh so I saw this article in the news about the new Crimean attorney general.... *rubs sweat from forehead*
Post edited March 24, 2014 by Crosmando
dr.zli
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From Serbia
Posted March 24, 2014
dr.zli: It's very funny to me to realize we're just playthings of big countries. And that it's mostly animal farm logic when independence is concerned: some people can declare independence yet some can't. When it was cool to rip apart my country nobody even mentioned our territorial integrity yet now Ukraine's territory is sacrosanct :D
AzureKite: I think "funny" is not a right word for such things. DarrkPhoenix
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Posted March 24, 2014
One of the things to take into consideration there is that the UK, US, and Russia had all signed an agreement to to respect and protect Ukraine's territorial sovereignty in exchange Ukraine giving up its arsenal of nuclear weapons (which were left over from when it was part of the USSR). There's a big worry that with Russia flat out wiping its ass with that agreement and the UK and US not doing much to stop it the likelihood of any other countries making similar agreements drops dramatically, and on the contrary it seems to send the message that the only way for smaller countries to avoid being pushed around by the larger ones is for them to have a nuclear arsenal.
Siannah
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From Switzerland
Posted March 24, 2014
It wasn't cool, at no point in time. However, two different situations, only one including ethnical cleansing. I won't claim who did what, where, when and why nor point around with the finger of blame, because there's way too much dirt on each side. But Serbia picking up the role of the victim, isn't really.... fitting.... either.
dr.zli
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From Serbia
Posted March 24, 2014
dr.zli: When it was cool to rip apart my country nobody even mentioned our territorial integrity yet now Ukraine's territory is sacrosanct :D
Siannah: It wasn't cool, at no point in time. However, two different situations, only one including ethnical cleansing. I won't claim who did what, where, when and why nor point around with the finger of blame, because there's way too much dirt on each side. But Serbia picking up the role of the victim, isn't really.... fitting.... either. But that's not relevant here, relevant fact is that the same scenario happens in Ukraine - Russia wants to grab a hold of strategic ports and resources for their country because pro-kremlin regime is done for. Referendum is organized without the consent of central government and Crimea is now independent.
If that's wrong in your book then we should just bring back former republics back into Yugoslavia and/or Kosovo into Serbia :D
What bothers me are double standards: if that behavior is bad then by all means don't make precedents, all animals are equal.
Only thing is, breakdown of Yugoslavia and independence of Kosovo happen to be good for the west so they're cool. Crimean independence is bad for them so west is not cool with it.
Only thing is - they can't do anything now because they already sent the message to all separatists in the world that it's cool to ignore central government and go for it.
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From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2014
Siannah: It wasn't cool, at no point in time. However, two different situations, only one including ethnical cleansing. I won't claim who did what, where, when and why nor point around with the finger of blame, because there's way too much dirt on each side. But Serbia picking up the role of the victim, isn't really.... fitting.... either.
dr.zli: During Yugoslav civil war all sides did their fair share of ethnic cleansing, murder and rape. Serbian people is victim as much as any other. But that's not relevant here, relevant fact is that the same scenario happens in Ukraine - Russia wants to grab a hold of strategic ports and resources for their country because pro-kremlin regime is done for. Referendum is organized without the consent of central government and Crimea is now independent.
If that's wrong in your book then we should just bring back former republics back into Yugoslavia and/or Kosovo into Serbia :D
What bothers me are double standards: if that behavior is bad then by all means don't make precedents, all animals are equal.
Only thing is, breakdown of Yugoslavia and independence of Kosovo happen to be good for the west so they're cool. Crimean independence is bad for them so west is not cool with it.
Only thing is - they can't do anything now because they already sent the message to all separatists in the world that it's cool to ignore central government and go for it.