Posted September 20, 2017

Gremlion
Lol in one letter - Ы
Registered: Dec 2012
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vsr
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Posted September 20, 2017
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Everyone has a right to be strong. Especially if there is a bully which beats anyone having own opinion (which is different from bully's one) and you don't want to be the next beaten poor fellow. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post edited September 20, 2017 by vsr

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 20, 2017

Edit: I think I should source my statements. Here is interview with one of rocket engineers of Yuzhnoe, revealing how easy it is to access (80-era) rocket engine hardware, which is still more than sufficient for ICBM.
Post edited September 24, 2017 by Lin545

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 20, 2017
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Seriously, USA is by far not the brightest example of corruption fighting or corruption absence. Corruption, defined as a violation of adherence to the law, require that the law is sufficiently equitable, that law servants research the facts sufficiently and handle them absolutely neutrally. It also requires non-alerted, non-militaristic state of government... People with high moral standards. Thats moving target, something to strive for. A fairy tale for the unsuspecting.

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Post edited September 20, 2017 by vsr

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 20, 2017
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vsr
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Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
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DaCostaBR
Dayman: Fighter of the Nightman
Registered: Sep 2012
From Brazil
Posted September 21, 2017

Counter claim: "Thats an outright lie. Recently an ukrainian UPA-supporter has won the lower court in Russia. How is this possible in authoritarian regime?"

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 21, 2017

The guy is hated by common street folk, because he writes tong-in-cheek non-sense. I would personally probably beat whip him with a stick because he deserves it. In this case, he called musicians that were onboard the plane flying towards Syria to cheer up troops fighting ISIS - "propagandists" and "deserved to die". He has links to UPA and UPA has long supported to islamists, here is youtube video - v=i9H7UAGAr8U.
So unless you support ISIS, I doubt there can be second opinion on his personality. Yet, the court ruled out he has freedom of speech.

DaCostaBR
Dayman: Fighter of the Nightman
Registered: Sep 2012
From Brazil
Posted September 21, 2017
After he is out of the country and it doesn't matter either way. After the state media whip up the populace against him, and people like you say "I would personally probably beat whip him with a stick because he deserves it".
Like I said, a token gesture, which will have no impact for those involved, meant only to pretend that Russia isn't an authoritarian country that stifles, or outright crushes, those who oppose Putin.
Like I said, a token gesture, which will have no impact for those involved, meant only to pretend that Russia isn't an authoritarian country that stifles, or outright crushes, those who oppose Putin.

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 21, 2017

Edit: since its actually pretty hard to find english version, I found this piece, enjoy, its verifiable.
Post edited September 21, 2017 by Lin545

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 21, 2017
Since vsr mentioned corruption, I found this personality. That may explain why both Gusinsky and Berezhovsky fled to UK (and not somewhere else).
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Edit: now all this is actually news to me. The Telegraph article is funny in several places: first the headline containing "Russians", but all these "gentlemen" are "Jewish";
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the second is that it gets lost defining the oligarchy as good or bad. Granted that Berezhovsky once asked Yeltsin to murder quite a large list of other oligarchs, the murders of the people in the article are quite in-line with typical 90ties mafia style, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Russians.
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Edit: now all this is actually news to me. The Telegraph article is funny in several places: first the headline containing "Russians", but all these "gentlemen" are "Jewish";
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the second is that it gets lost defining the oligarchy as good or bad. Granted that Berezhovsky once asked Yeltsin to murder quite a large list of other oligarchs, the murders of the people in the article are quite in-line with typical 90ties mafia style, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Russians.
Post edited September 21, 2017 by Lin545

richlind33
bong hits for beelzebub
Registered: Jan 2016
From United States
Posted September 21, 2017

Counter claim: "Thats an outright lie. Recently an ukrainian UPA-supporter has won the lower court in Russia. How is this possible in authoritarian regime?"

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Edit: now all is actually news to me. The Telegraph article is funny in several places: first the headline containing "Russians", but all these "gentlemen" are "Jewish"; the second is that it gets lost defining the oligarchy as good or bad. Granted that Berezhovsky once asked Yeltsin to murder quite a large list of other oligarchs, the murders of the people in the article are quite in-line with typical [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Russians]90ties mafia style.
Post edited September 21, 2017 by richlind33

Lin545
May. 24, 2022
Registered: Jun 2011
From Russian Federation
Posted September 21, 2017

But jokes aside, I meant the nationality of these gentlemen in the article, which are collectively referenced as "Russians" in terms of ethnicity, not citizenship per se. Not the criminal circles of zionist jewish structures (if there are any)... The more fitting term for them would be post-soviet oligarch mafia?.. The classic "Russian mafia" are really "New Russians", like this one. They all rose to surface with fall of USSR, and thus fall of official state prosecution system.
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As said, US series "Criminal Russia" is pretty nice series on them. Here is youtube playlist, unfortunately untranslated. It was produced by NTV (belonging to Gusinsky) and "M&E David Hamburg"(?)
Furthermore, Abramovich is Putin's friend if I am not mistaken, so I suspect there is a ton to read and discover. I am not much of an analyst though...
Post edited September 21, 2017 by Lin545