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GreasyDogMeat: This was the first time I haven't claimed a free game.
This is one of my first(minus the ones I missed)....I have even claimed some in genres I don't play much.

sidenote: love the colors and lines in yer avatar
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paladin181: If you honestly think all those Middle Eastern hunting simulators weren't blatant propaganda, I really don't know what to say.
I don't think they were. At the time they were made, it hadn't been THAT long ago that video games were being demonized as violent murder simulators teaching kids to shoot up schools. Publishers liked to court controversy for attention, but there was a huge market for "safe" murder sims in which it was socially acceptable to shoot at a particular enemy. And, well... 9/11 kind of painted a huge target on the back of the middle east. Democrat, Republican... pretty much everyone except Ron Paul was chomping at the bit to get in on the neocon bandwagon and start bombing brown people for the black gold they were sitting on, or to secure one of those sweet military contracts for their constituents. They didn't really start to change their tune and call bullshit until the next election cycle was gearing up.

Before that, you had an absolute glut of military shooters in which you were fighting either fictional space aliens or Nazis. Because aliens don't exist and Nazis were a socially acceptable target to shoot at. It was getting worn out, and people were cracking jokes about the trend lasting longer than the actual war. The market was primed for a change of target, and middle eastern based terrorism was topical. Besides, most of those games didnt' exactly paint the US or military service in the best of light. If you just look at the surface, they seem pretty right-wing, but most of the plots revolved around the US military and all of their bravado being stupidly goaded into conflicts and getting played by Russian splinter cells, or S. American dictators, or greedy PMCs, or the Military Industrial Complex/The Patriots. They were quite often portrayed as puppets siging up to serve their country, and instead being betrayed by rich elites into doing their dirty work. Again, topical. It could well be argued that many popular titles were subversive propaganda to undermine faith in the military by pulling a bait & switch. Not all of them were as on the nose as Spec Ops: The Line. How many of them actually portrayed the US presence in the middle east as being a postitive influence in the region? As the US being the unambiguous good guys spreading peace and democracy through repeated carpet bombing?
Post edited May 03, 2021 by BoozeJunky
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The more paladin181 posts the more I think he's a RINO... and clearly missing the messaging in a lot of games and movies.
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GreasyDogMeat: The more paladin181 posts the more I think he's a RINO... and clearly missing the messaging in a lot of games and movies.
Part of me thinks he has the wrong Roosevelt as his profile picture.
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kohlrak: Part of me thinks he has the wrong Roosevelt as his profile picture.
Yup, because people who stand for action are not relevant as opposed to excessively liberal policies that did damage it took years to recover from. Right. It's almost like a person can have their own opinions about issues without toeing a party line because the source of ideas is far less important than the merit of ideas themselves. But thanks for playing.
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GreasyDogMeat: The more paladin181 posts the more I think he's a RINO... and clearly missing the messaging in a lot of games and movies.
I'm a moderate conservative. I've never been far right.
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paladin181: I'm a moderate conservative. I've never been far right.
Based on how you view certain movies and games it sounds more like you 'slightly lean right'. Taken political compass tests... always land smack dab center right. I know and argue with people who are 'far right'. Would you also consider Modern Warfare 2 to be right wing propaganda?
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paladin181: I'm a moderate conservative. I've never been far right.
Give it a year or so, and you'll be far right whether you want to be or not.
Shit, look at me... I used to be downright progressive not all that long ago. Now I'm a Nazi, apparently.

See ya in the gulags, comrade.
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GreasyDogMeat: Based on how you view certain movies and games it sounds more like you 'slightly lean right'. Taken political compass tests... always land smack dab center right. I know and argue with people who are 'far right'. Would you also consider Modern Warfare 2 to be right wing propaganda?
Who said anything about right wing propaganda...? I think maybe some assumptions were made about what I actually said. I said they were propaganda, not right-wing propaganda. And propaganda isn't always a bad thing. As far as Modern Warfare 2, was that the war with Russia? I haven't played all the COD games and the details tend to blur together on the ones I have.
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BoozeJunky: Give it a year or so, and you'll be far right whether you want to be or not.
Shit, look at me... I used to be downright progressive not all that long ago. Now I'm a Nazi, apparently.

See ya in the gulags, comrade.
Yeah. Probably. We'll be there sooner or later. Almost no one progressive enough for the new world order.
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paladin181: As far as Modern Warfare 2, was that the war with Russia? I haven't played all the COD games and the details tend to blur together on the ones I have.
Yes, the game with the infamous "no russian" level.
(the game which asked me TWICE if I wanted to skip it...at game launch and before it)
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kohlrak: Part of me thinks he has the wrong Roosevelt as his profile picture.
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paladin181: Yup, because people who stand for action are not relevant as opposed to excessively liberal policies that did damage it took years to recover from. Right. It's almost like a person can have their own opinions about issues without toeing a party line because the source of ideas is far less important than the merit of ideas themselves. But thanks for playing.
You're right, that was overly cynical.

That said, we sitll haven't recovered. Many of those left wing policies of the other Roosevelt still exist.
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GreasyDogMeat: The more paladin181 posts the more I think he's a RINO... and clearly missing the messaging in a lot of games and movies.
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paladin181: I'm a moderate conservative. I've never been far right.
RINO means "overly moderate" or "corporate shill."
Post edited May 03, 2021 by kohlrak
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paladin181: Who said anything about right wing propaganda...? I think maybe some assumptions were made about what I actually said. I said they were propaganda, not right-wing propaganda. And propaganda isn't always a bad thing. As far as Modern Warfare 2, was that the war with Russia? I haven't played all the COD games and the details tend to blur together on the ones I have.
Replace 'right wing' with 'military'. Point being you're mistaking the propaganda with the exact OPPOSITE of its intent. Propaganda that a 'right winger' would never view as being 'pro military'.
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The "We Will Ryot" game giveaway
(starring: various goggers as robbie rotten & the game devs as the ice cream salesman)
Post edited May 03, 2021 by GamezRanker
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squid830: Wait, what? How exactly is Duke Nukem "left wing"?!?
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kohlrak: I just saw your edit. I've seen another article or two, before, but this is the only one i could pull out to back up this claim right now: duke himself.

My understanding was that it was supposed to be satire on the right wing. And it failed so hard the left won't stop punishing it. Keep in mind the era in which duke 3d was released, too. I could've been reading too much into it, though, but i vaguely remember reading something like that.
Jon St. John is not Duke Nukem. I'm guessing that he just got paid to read some lines. I think that it would be a pretty safe bet that Bruno Ganz doesn't have the same views as Adolf Hitler. Your case isn't very convincing at the moment.

My attempted reply to your reply to me is hanging for some reason.

I'm getting the feeling that GOG is censoring my reply to you but I can't imagine why that would be the case. It seems pretty bizarre in any case. I thought that it might have been the length of the post but your post seemed similarly long. I might try and post a reply to it here, maybe. Done (afterwards I managed to post those screenshots in a direct reply to your post, it got up momentarily but then quickly disappeared. I really don't know what the issue is here):
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paladin181: I'm a moderate conservative. I've never been far right.
I haven't really been looking to closely at a lot of posts in this thread but a question:

Do any conservatives identify as being "far right"?

I suspect that even people who are regarded as far right by nearly everybody wouldn't identify themselves as such.
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paladin181: I'm a moderate conservative. I've never been far right.
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BartonFink: I haven't really been looking to closely at a lot of posts in this thread but a question:

Do any conservatives identify as being "far right"?

I suspect that even people who regarded as far right by nearly everybody wouldn't identify themselves as such.
what is far right?