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paladin181: Does it promote violence more than Mortal Kombat or COD? I don't agree with the ideology of the game but damn. Now we're blaming video games for causing violence like some bored, old, out-of-touch politicians? Because it doesn't share our ideology? Death to Germans in video games is cool, death to Middle Eastern "terrorists" in games is cool. Death to Capitalists is bad? Violence against an inherently unfair system wherein the rich are unjustly rewarded for abusing the poor and then stealing the biggest chunk of the reward after the poor did literally 99% of the work is bad? Forgive me if these economic terrorists ruining lives is just as bad to me as the bombing terrorists. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against capitalism, I'm against unregulated capitalism where executives can grant themselves giant multimillion dollar bonuses while their employees choose between rent and food.
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Orkhepaj: yes
cause for promotion what matters is how strongly you can resemble real people as the targets of the violence
like if they would make a game where you had to assassinate someone who is so strongly resembles a real politician everybody can see what their aim was is for me promoting violence
same with groups
Is GTA a violence simulator? You can kill police in that game, as a black man even if you're playing San Andreas or V online. Again, in FPS, you're often killing specific looking people from real places, so that argument doesn't hold water.

Who specifically was targeted? Have you even played the game, or are you upset because in a flash of irony, someone told you to be?

Stick to your one-liner troll posts. I'm not sure you're properly equipped to actually engage in a discussion, yet.
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morolf: Given the kind of sentiment expressed in your profile description, it's rather silly if you complain Gog doesn't ban users. Because by any standard you'd be high up on the ban list yourself. imo you should do the smart thing and change that.
It's an old Ukrainian(I think) saying. Nothing wrong about it.
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Արսեն:
Look, I think I can understand why you feel that way, but you really should change it, before a moderator sees it. I think you're running a good risk of getting banned otherwise.
Post edited May 03, 2021 by morolf
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Արսեն:
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morolf: Look, I think I can understand why you feel that way, but you really should change it, before a moderator sees it. I think you're running a good risk of getting banned otherwise.
I thank you for your concern.
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Արսեն: It's an old Ukrainian(I think) saying. Nothing wrong about it.
Ashamed of what she sees at day, the sun sets with a blush.
For the wounds of daggers may heal, but those caused by the tongue shall never.
And one bad deed may soon beget another.
As wisdom doesn't grow like beards, or else every goat was a prophet.

I, personally, would have opted for another Armenian proverb:
Everybody is born with three ears, one on the left of their head, one on the right, and one in their heart.
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paladin181: Now we're blaming video games for causing violence like some bored, old, out-of-touch politicians?
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GamezRanker: No, some of us are just of the opinion that games/media somewhat influence people(some more than others)....and in today's day(where a number of people rely on the net and any source for their beliefs/opinions) even more so.....especially when combined with other sources(social media posts/etc).

Also there's a big diff between the politicians and some of us here: some of us don't want said games to be banned

As for this game: I find a game that more or less makes all cops out to be bad a bit different than a game where someone fights some members of some criminal group(gang, terr*rists, etc).
Some people, including the one I responded to said the game shouldn't be on GOG. You do not speak for anyone but yourself.

Games have been influencing people for years. COD and similar FPS Military shooters have been used as military recruiting tools for years, as have movies like Platoon and Top Gun. No one batted an eye about the US Army using games to recruit and even train soldiers, theoretically making more efficient killers of our young people and conditioning them that turban- and balaclava-wearing Middle Eastern people are evil terrorists in the wake of the USS Cole bombing and 9/11. So the whole American propaganda has been ok, but someone else promoting ideas you don't like is suddenly bad? Again, I don't agree with the message, but as an American veteran, I support to death their right to say it.
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paladin181: Military shooters have been used as military recruiting tools for years, as have movies like Platoon
Wait... what? Platoon? The Oliver Stone movie? As a recruiting tool? How... I mean... error... does not compute...

I mean, sure, this looks fun! Where do I sign up?
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paladin181: FPS Military shooters have been used as military recruiting tools for years, as have movies like Platoon and Top Gun
o_O

Wut? That film where the only character that retains a last shred of human decency (the one played by Willem Dafoe) ends up getting fragged by his own teammate? That film? Anyone who sees Platoon and goes "Hey, I'd like to have myself some of that action!" would have to be a pretty disturbed individual to begin with.

edit: lol, ninja'd by Breja! xD
Post edited May 03, 2021 by fronzelneekburm
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paladin181: Some people, including the one I responded to said the game shouldn't be on GOG.
Well that's one aspect where they and I differ.

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paladin181: No one batted an eye about the US Army using games to recruit and even train soldiers
In such cases, (afaik) the army/etc weren't usually the ones making the games....many such games were/are(afaik) made by other companies mainly/solely to entertain. In this case, however, the actual devs are likely(if not certainly) using it to spread the messaging to players directly(and during a time/in a country where such things are already happening).

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paladin181: Again, I don't agree with the message, but as an American veteran, I support to death their right to say it.
I agree with that......let them make their games(that is their right)....I just won't be playing them, is all.
Post edited May 03, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Enebias: Hey GOG staffers, look at the main page. Remember when you threatened to ban me when I made the pun "Paradicks Entertainment" (whopps I did it again)?

And when you said "no politics allowed"? Isn't that time to ban some users here for serious violations so that maybe sane people can enjoy some civil discussions once more? Thank you.
Stay mad, satanist.
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paladin181: Some people, including the one I responded to said the game shouldn't be on GOG.
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GamezRanker: Well that's one aspect where they and I differ.

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paladin181: No one batted an eye about the US Army using games to recruit and even train soldiers
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GamezRanker: In such cases, (afaik) the army/etc weren't usually the ones making the games....many such games were/are(afaik) made by other companies mainly/solely to entertain. In this case, however, the actual devs are likely(if not certainly) using it to spread the messaging to players directly(and during a time/in a country where such things are already happening).

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paladin181: Again, I don't agree with the message, but as an American veteran, I support to death their right to say it.
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GamezRanker: I agree with that......let them make their games(that is their right)....I just won't be playing them, is all.
If you honestly think all those Middle Eastern hunting simulators weren't blatant propaganda, I really don't know what to say. And at the time they were released, those issues were ongoing as well. In both cases the game makers are championing the cause they believe in.
Post edited May 03, 2021 by paladin181
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LOL the comment on both sides are now full of downvotes. Look like both sides are on full throttle anger bahahahaha!
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paladin181: If you honestly think all those Middle Eastern hunting simulators weren't blatant propaganda, I really don't know what to say. And at the time they were released, those issues were ongoing as well. In both cases the game makers are championing the cause they believe in.
You're possibly forgetting one other equally valid explanation besides your own(for such games being made): pandering and appealing to what people are interested in atm(like companies now and lgbt issues, etc)

And yes, while those games were released such issues were ongoing...but for one thing: those issues were happening on the other side of the world for the most part(i.e. kinda hard for pasty faced young adults to imitate such games vs the stuff in this game).
Post edited May 03, 2021 by GamezRanker
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This was the first time I haven't claimed a free game.
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Nervensaegen: For the wounds of daggers may heal, but those caused by the tongue shall never.
I dunno, sounds a bit like bleeding heart libshit assertions that "words are violence" to me. Whatever happened to Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?

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Nervensaegen: As wisdom doesn't grow like beards, or else every goat was a prophet.
This I like. This is a good line. A+

Myself, I like the line "We weep for the cry of a bird, but not the blood of a fish. Blessed are those who have a voice". I think it might have some relevance to current events, but I'm not sure. It's just something I heard it in cartoon a long time ago, and it sounded good.
Post edited May 03, 2021 by BoozeJunky