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tinyE: Yeah.....no.

DeLoreans had less than spectacular engines and were covered in stainless steel. They are beautiful cars but there is NO WAY you are getting one up to 80MPH unless you are driving it down a fucking runway. :P

You'd be better off putting the Flux Capacitor in a Dodge Dart. :P
There were russian MIGs made of stainless steel...

or speaking with KSP language... add moar boosters!
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tinyE: Yeah.....no.

DeLoreans had less than spectacular engines and were covered in stainless steel. They are beautiful cars but there is NO WAY you are getting one up to 80MPH unless you are driving it down a fucking runway. :P

You'd be better off putting the Flux Capacitor in a Dodge Dart. :P
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Lin545: There were russian MIGs made of stainless steel...

or speaking with KSP language... add moar boosters!
Are you equating the engine on a fighter jet with the one on a DeLorean? :P
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There's a lot of sadness in this thread but if it helps cheer anyone up, I'm staying.
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tinyE: Are you equating the engine on a fighter jet with the one on a DeLorean? :P
Was there difference? Thing set the ground on fire. Its living proof that bricks fly faster, just add a bigger capacitor :D
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tinyE: Are you equating the engine on a fighter jet with the one on a DeLorean? :P
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Lin545: Was there difference? Thing set the ground on fire. Its living proof that bricks fly faster, just add a bigger capacitor :D
Okay, you and I need to sit down with a pen, some paper, a bottle of Jägermeister and figure this thing out.
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Who is the beneficiary of the last will and testicle?

If you think I'm going to make a joke about tinyE being the beneficiary of Emob's estate then you're sadly mistaken.

That silly joke would get me reported and my post low rated, I'm better than that.
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fables22: In all honesty, I'm pretty shocked at the amount of people who seem to think the rules are "negotiable" or will change because they personally dislike them, especially if they repeatedly try and make it clear just how much they dislike them. Or because they personally dislike moderation. I tried to ask the community where they wanted to take the forum in the future, and how they want it to be moderated, and all we got out of it were disgusting arguments, and nothing changed. There's a very good reason as to why rules, in general, exist, and why we don't live in anarchy.

The current state of the forum discourages healthy discussions and, by extension, discourages new users from wanting to take part in those discussions. And the times when hate speech was a subjective matter are long gone too - it's become a lot more than just that.
Thing is, "hate speech" laws have not only failed to make this world a better place, they've actually made it worse, because now more than ever before, people hear 1 or 2 "bad" words and decide that person X or person Y is a "hater", or person X or Y is a "degenerate", and stop listening. And when we stop listening to one another, societies, institutions and families become more dysfunctional, rather than less dysfunctional.

LONG before hate laws showed up people were getting booted out of forums for wishing harm or death on others. In no way, shape, or form, are hate laws necessary to effectively deal with such problems, and people who feel safer for them are setting themselves up for a nasty fall because "out of sight, out of mind" leaves you more vulnerable, rather than less vulnerable.

That said, please give us an off-topic subforum, sooner rather than later, and do what is necessary to restore a modicum of civility. I personally prefer less moderation, rather than more, but I appreciate the situation you're in. You're not going to leave everyone happy, and you're not obligated to, but evenhandedness would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Post edited March 03, 2017 by richlind33
If you don't really care about reading the huge walls of text in quotes in more quotes, you don't really notice anything.

I'm blissfully ignorant and just post music in the music thread mostly. Or actually just talk about videogames.
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tinyE: Are you equating the engine on a fighter jet with the one on a DeLorean? :P
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Lin545: Was there difference? Thing set the ground on fire. Its living proof that bricks fly faster, just add a bigger capacitor :D
I have no idea what is currently going on in this thread, but that literally made me laugh out loud.
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Bookwyrm627: I have no idea what is currently going on in this thread, but that literally made me laugh out loud.
It's even funnier if you say it in a heavy Russian accent.
Why not the final solution? Just close down the forums like Bioware did. Then nobody can write words others can be offended by.
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tinyE: Good idea, but who are the "actual trolls"?
The others.
So anyway, take care Emob. Also I enjoy browsing r/The_Donald.
I saw this thread after visiting the forum for the first time in awhile, and here's my two cents.
I never posted very often in the forum, partly because I'm not a prolific poster anywhere--I spend more time reading--and partly because of the structure of the forum. I eventually pretty much abandoned even reading the forum, since it seemed that every time I came, it was complaints, rants, and conspiracy theories (as a side note, my dislike of conspiracy theories is a major reason why I like System Shock 2 better than Deus Ex). This was a disappointment, since before that I had found that the presence of older gamers here meant you were likely to get more articulate posts than on Steam.
Getting back to the structure of the forum, I think having no link to game forums from the store page, and hiding the game forum link in a drop-down menu on a game's library page, lowers traffic to specific game forums, making it difficult to have discussions about particular games. Worse, the general forum throws all topics together, forcing anyone looking for game-related content to wade through seas of pointless forum games and political posts. The mere provision of an off-topic section would make it easier to use.
The larger issue is this: sometimes I want to argue about politics, or culture, or movies, or whatever, but sometimes I don't. Sometimes I need a break. If I consistently find myself confronted with views I find abhorrent, I'll just leave. So will most other people. Now when it comes to my pet issue, I have a lot more tolerance for argument, because I care enough to try to convince the world. But that tolerance doesn't exist elsewhere in my life, so I prefer discussion forums that kick out people who cause trouble, or at least quarantine them. The true genius of a place like Reddit is not the upvoting/downvoting system, but the fact that subreddits allow you to drill down to the specific topics you care about, avoid the people who annoy you, and have either a vigorous argument or a therapy session as you prefer.
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I'll ante up and raise, so here are my three cents:

I've always liked GOG's lax forum moderation line as i generally prefer "too much freedom of speech" than too little. I prefer people having lots of information (some true, some false, some in between) available and having to make their own mind about it, or even just dismiss all of it. Just like I am against our national "hate speech laws", mainly because they are also misused quite a lot, most glaring example being the judgment of Jussi Halla-aho for pointing out the double standards of our prosecutor general.


But this is GOG's forums. If they feel certain kinds of writings here may affect their business negatively, e.g. because many people don't like to hang around here anymore, they have every reason to moderate such texts away. GOG might just as well decide that only discussion about games is allowed in the forums, or even discussion only about GOG games (e.g. talking about Steam or console games wouldn't be allowed here). Or, they might even decide to close the forums completely.

And they have every right to do that. Even if I'd miss the forums (or even merely the lax moderation line), I'd still be here as a customer, as long as they provide the games I like, in the form I like (DRM-free).

Heck, people buy games from Humble Bundle without complaining about HB's forums and moderation line... mainly because they don't even have forums (the last time I checked). Forums are a nice thing to have, but not a necessity for a business.
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