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It's Throwback Thursday time! This week, we continue our focus on games that received exclusive free goodies, including concept arts, badass screenshots, and renders, all thanks to the The Video Game History Foundation. No time to waste, as we're talking about quite the infamous title: Daikatana!

"John Romero’s about to make you his b-" the game’s… unique advertising strategy, is one of the many reasons Daikatana is remembered to this day. The game is a classic FPS with interesting elements and a unique setting, as it takes place across four different time periods: 2455 Japan, ancient Greece, Norway during the Dark Ages, and San Francisco in 2030. It features approximately two dozen weapons to use, each with its own unique identity, themed to the time period you are playing in, and was a pioneer in featuring friendly NPCs meant to help you in your missions. Meant is a keyword here, as the game was met with mixed results for its numerous AI problems, amongst others. But it's a fun, rather crazy ride, in pure Romero fashion, and still very enjoyable.



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Daikatana is an underrated game, in my opinion, that has an undeserved reputation for being a "bad" game. Though it certainly has its janky issues, and there were many issues on release, there is a lot of fun to be had here. IMO, once you get past the drab, grindy opening episode (which is the one most people played in the shareware demo), the game really opens up in terms of graphics and level design. The John Romero approved community patch makes it much more playable on modern PCs, and I think even if it's not a bona fide masterpiece when all is said and done, it's an ambitious and fun experience.

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pferreira1983: You hate games don't you.
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twillight: I hate trash.
What games and generas do you like then?

HOM&M, Diabilo and Thief games are great. The 3rd Thief is probably the most easily accessible today.. I wish we could get Diabilo 2 here and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
Post edited February 07, 2022 by David9855
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twillight: I hate trash.
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pferreira1983: That's a lot of classic games to call trash.
Exactly my point.
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David9855: What games and generas do you like then?

HOM&M, Diabilo and Thief games are great. The 3rd Thief is probably the most easily accessible today.. I wish we could get Diabilo 2 here and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
Diablo is trash, and Diablo 2 is just a jumbles heap of bug and broken promises. It is the true symbol of the death of Activision/Blizard.

I've explained above why HoMM is trash, and why Thief is unaccessible for me, so dunno what's your point there.
Post edited February 07, 2022 by twillight
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Seem to remember playing it up to the point where a wizard you're after runs up a tree (?!) at which point it bugged out completely and either quit to desktop or managed to BSOD my box completely - can't remember which but it was repeatable - every time he ran up the tree it did it!

Anyone remember that or have I gone mad?

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Found this in a walkthrough:
"Editor's Note: It appears as though the infamous "Wyndrax crash bug" (the game crashing when finally killing Wyndrax) from 1.0 can still rear its head if you're playing in Win2k, so be forewarned."

Yeah - that was the one! I WAS running Windows 2000 at the time too!
Post edited February 07, 2022 by Fever_Discordia
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It seems to me with all due respect that calling something (video games) ''trash'' is just simply ignorance.
I will explain below.
In the 90's there was a small company called LJN which was part of Acclaim. This company released many video games. Honestly, LJN was not one of my favourite companies in the 90's. And I generally considered their games as regular or mediocre (in my ignorance).
LJN (Acclaim) managed to acquire the X-Men and Spiderman licenses. In the mid 90's they released Wolverine: Adamantium Rage for the SNES. A title that I played half-heartedly because, on the one hand, I found it extremely frustrating. On the other hand, I repeatedly compared it to Capcom's X-Men Wolverine. I was ignorant and I realised that years later when I gave the game a second chance to play it. The second time I played Wolverine: Adamantium Rage the experience was completely different. Today I consider it a very good video game.
Another Acclaim (LJN) video game that I considered to be very bad was Spider-Man & Venom: Maximum Carnage. Today my opinion is different. And I consider it as a SNES and PC classic. And I hope that this video game will one day find its way into the GOG catalogue so I can play it again.
The point is that, in matters of opinion, to each his own. There are gamers who love FPS, battle simulators, sports video games, graphic novels, adventure games, role-playing games, etc., there will be people who share your love for one genre or another. equally, there will also be people who dislike the driving genre, for example. But who share with others their love for rpg's. Whether someone likes or dislikes a video game is not the issue. The problem is referring to things we don't like as "trash".
Post edited February 07, 2022 by UCrest
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twillight: I hate trash.
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David9855: What games and generas do you like then?

HOM&M, Diabilo and Thief games are great. The 3rd Thief is probably the most easily accessible today.. I wish we could get Diabilo 2 here and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
Yes like many of us I have played HoM&M games (Heroes II and Heroes III) for 25 years and I still play them today. Also I do play Diablo 2 Resurrected now and it is total blast to play. For me they are just the best games you can have fun with. I also like Thief games, but I didn't play them when they first came out.
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twillight: Exactly my point.
But I don't get your point. You think classic games you listed are trash because?
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twillight: Exactly my point.
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pferreira1983: But I don't get your point. You think classic games you listed are trash because?
because they are classic? Yeah, that was strange. What a crazy website to spend time in for someone who doesn't like classic games.
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Plumb: because they are classic? Yeah, that was strange. What a crazy website to spend time in for someone who doesn't like classic games.
They are NOT classic.
The are simply ex-famous.
But the truth is they are NOT good old games. they are suffering from major, even game-breaking flaws.
They are trash.

Like HoMM, which supposed to be a strategy-game, but you can not strategize in it.
Or Diablo, especialy Diablo 2, which is just a hunk of bugs.
Or patched Fallout 2, where the patch introduced uncircumwentable bugs.
Or Daikatan, which is an uninspired, vomit-inducing plie of garbage, with controller-issues.

These are not "classic", these are BAD old games.

And even when GoG touches some good old games, we end up with some shitty remake. Look at the Beamdog-controversies. Or that instead of giving us the original Blair Witch, they decided to do some crappy reboot-game what nobody wanted, asnd given it is a new bad game, it can't be played on the average PC until 10-20 years passes. not that anyone wants to play it, but still.
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Plumb: because they are classic? Yeah, that was strange. What a crazy website to spend time in for someone who doesn't like classic games.
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twillight: They are NOT classic.
The are simply ex-famous.
But the truth is they are NOT good old games. they are suffering from major, even game-breaking flaws.
They are trash.

Like HoMM, which supposed to be a strategy-game, but you can not strategize in it.
Or Diablo, especialy Diablo 2, which is just a hunk of bugs.
Or patched Fallout 2, where the patch introduced uncircumwentable bugs.
Or Daikatan, which is an uninspired, vomit-inducing plie of garbage, with controller-issues.

These are not "classic", these are BAD old games.
So, according to you, what are these classics that you don't name? Tell us which classics you mean that are free of programming errors? Because you have referred to certain titles, but nowhere do you mention those video games that you consider to be true classics.
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UCrest: So, according to you, what are these classics that you don't name? Tell us which classics you mean that are free of programming errors? Because you have referred to certain titles, but nowhere do you mention those video games that you consider to be true classics.
The strawman is strong with this one.
Like "Tell us which classics you mean that are free of programming errors?" in response to a game that is NOTHING ELSE BUT programming errors (Diablo 2, Daikatana).

To "classics" your approach is entirely wrong.
You consider "classics" equal with "easily marketable", even if they are trashy products. But they sold good, or otherwise gained notoriety. Then you sucker people to buy them, and wash your hands, like some mockbuster studio, or low budget scum with a flashy poster.

There is a reason why the community wishlist on good OLD games are full of 2018 titles.
It is the same reason why Fifa 1,000,000 despite being the exact same game as the first one sells record high.
Or the next 1st person shooter, which is indistinguishable from ALL the others.
The reason is YOU.

GoG should rename itself to simply G, aka. "Games."

You also obviously did not read what I'v written, but as GoG sells 18+ games, here are some classics in that department:
- X-change
- Season of Sakura
- Three sisters' Story
- Cobra Mission
- Divi-Dead

The category "classics" should be checked up time to time.
One of the reason is, stuff gets old. For whatever reason.
The other reason is, cretain things at their releas can get overlooked, or was just a regional success, or simply had bad luck. Those should be re-introduced (this should be the job of GoG).

So ye, for a decade or two HoMM was popular. But looking back on it, was it good? NO! The single player campaigns were NONSENSE!
Was Diablo 2 popular? Yes it was. Was it good? NO! And for the record with the breaking of the promise of patchiing it further, and the release of the remaster, there is ZERO chance for it to be released here in the forseeable future (lucky us, don't have to suffer the shame that game is).

But you want some game I consider currently classics?
Sure, why not:
- unpatched Fallout 2
- unpatched Planescape Torment
- Day of the Tentacle (includes Maniac Mansion)
- Jagged Alliance 2
- Siege of Avalon
- Cat Quest (the longetivity is questionable here maybe)
- Might and Magic 6-7
- Monkey Island 1-3
- Baldur's Gate trilogy, original version
- Gorky 17
- Phantasmagoria 2
- Galador (I certainly hope so)
- Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara (likely)

And there are potentialy good games to be released, like:
- Fallout Tactics, stabilized version, with race-options for the single player campaign
- G.O.L.E.M
- Abomination: the nemesis project (hopefully with dub options)
- Blair Witch Project Part 1
I dunno, I'm not payed for this.

But instead what do we get?
Some lazy, outdated ports of Castlevania and Contra? If they are this desperate, why not friggin Pokemon? With option to merge whatever generation they pick into one game, because that franchise is nothing but a scam. Still potentialy miles better than that Konami-pack. And Gen1 actualy had hard puzzles, and maybe Gen3 was kinda balanced.

If at all, because recently GoG only released new games.
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Fever_Discordia: Seem to remember playing it up to the point where a wizard you're after runs up a tree (?!) at which point it bugged out completely and either quit to desktop or managed to BSOD my box completely - can't remember which but it was repeatable - every time he ran up the tree it did it!

Anyone remember that or have I gone mad?

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Found this in a walkthrough:
"Editor's Note: It appears as though the infamous "Wyndrax crash bug" (the game crashing when finally killing Wyndrax) from 1.0 can still rear its head if you're playing in Win2k, so be forewarned."

Yeah - that was the one! I WAS running Windows 2000 at the time too!
Wyndrax Tower (Part 2 of 2, or E3M4b) was infamous for how buggy it was - the bug you mentioned is particularly unfortunate, but not the most enduring: even after patch 1.2, the reload system was broken on this level, and the only way to complete it without cheating was to pull off a successful playthrough of it in one go without saving and reloading (not particularly difficult, but still). These problems are gone with unofficial patch 1.3.
A shame it became infamous due to bugginess, as Wyndrax Tower is overall very good (both parts), not only one of the highlights of Episode 3, but also the wizard Wyndrax himself is a better boss encounter than the main villain of the episode (Nharre). It's one of the more ambitious encounter designs of the game, with quite a bit of openness depending on how you approach it, and having Wyndrax running off after taking too much damage - opening a secret passage and leading you to a new part of the map entirely in the process - is a welcome change from the simple Artificial Aggressiveness (with no room for Intelligence) exhibited by the majority of the game's enemies.

EDIT: corrected a typo
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UCrest: So, according to you, what are these classics that you don't name?
Probably best to just ignore that other user.....they seem to just be trolling(using an overdone trolling technique....i.e. labelling a bunch of things people like on some site as trash with little in the way of actual criticism/reasoning) at this point.



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Sat42: Wyndrax Tower
That bit, and also that entire episode was very good.....one of my favorite episodes alongside the greek episode(and coming in at a near second place is the first episode).
Post edited February 10, 2022 by GamezRanker
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UCrest: So, according to you, what are these classics that you don't name?
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GamezRanker: Probably best to just ignore that other user.....they seem to just be trolling(using an overdone trolling technique....i.e. labelling a bunch of things people like on some site as trash with little in the way of actual criticism/reasoning) at this point.
Yes, you're right. Thanks, @GamezRanker.

In my case, the top 3 best stages (or episode) in Daikatana, in order from first to last, are the following:

1. Greece.
2. Middle Ages.
3. The first stage.

Honestly, the first time I played Daikatana I felt frustrated when I started it. The first stage (or episode) is quite difficult compared to Greece and the Middle Ages. You get the feeling as a player that the difficulty level will be higher in the following stages. That creates a bit of frustration at the beginning and, at the same time, keeps you excited for what is to come in the later stages. Too bad the difficulty drops off at the end. :( Sorry to be repetitive. But the more you get into the game, the better it gets. And your expectations get higher and higher. So in the end it's a bit disappointing.

I hope that one day with the community patch all the bugs in the programming of the title can be solved. Daikatana deserves it.

A big hug :)
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UCrest: Yes, you're right. Thanks, @GamezRanker.
NP

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UCrest: Too bad the difficulty drops off at the end. :(
And the end boss is lackluster...still, a fun ride for the most part.

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UCrest: I hope that one day with the community patch all the bugs in the programming of the title can be solved. Daikatana deserves it.
And perhaps a sequel as well :)
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UCrest: I hope that one day with the community patch all the bugs in the programming of the title can be solved. Daikatana deserves it.
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GamezRanker: And perhaps a sequel as well :)
I would be more inclined towards a remake with a lot of development work behind it. Even a standalone expansion that completes the main plot with more content would be a great idea.

Time travel is an interesting idea if done with good planning. Proof of that, Chrono Trigger, to cite one example.

The parallel between the master sword (Legend of Zelda) and the Daikatana (or katana) is also interesting and cliché at the same time. In both cases, the sword or katana awaits a new hero. It doesn't matter whether the sword is hidden in the bowels of a sacred forest or the katana is at the bottom of the sea or a lake. The idea revolves around the generational change embodied by a new main character or by the same character with new attributes.

The problem is how to approach the story and improve the concept without it feeling like more of the same.

:)
Post edited February 10, 2022 by UCrest