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zeogold
The Puzzlemaster
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From United States
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
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gogamess
RPG's
Registered: Dec 2013
From Spain
Posted October 22, 2016
Looks Nice ^_^
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infinite9
No Longer New!
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
Posted October 22, 2016
The product looks great although I am skeptical about the dividing of the controllers. I also can imagine little kids losing them so this was definitely geared towards more cautious kids and young adults.
I heard that Bethesda has not confirmed anything about bringing Skyrim to the Nintendo Switch but that does not mean that they are not working on it. This does look like something I would purchase a couple of years after launch. Right now I am working on getting a 3DS XL and a better place to live.
I heard that Bethesda has not confirmed anything about bringing Skyrim to the Nintendo Switch but that does not mean that they are not working on it. This does look like something I would purchase a couple of years after launch. Right now I am working on getting a 3DS XL and a better place to live.
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MartiusR
Eques Christi
Registered: Dec 2010
From Poland
Posted October 22, 2016
Overall impression? Rather negative. I feel that due to "dualistic" concept of the console we rather shouldn't expect continuation of "usual" handhelds (and of course cheaper devices), so I feel the whole concept has "silent" intention to "force" to buy Nintendo's "big" console even by people, who are rather interested in buying only handheld and wouldn't even bother to buy stationary one. Which can be a risky move by the way, due to the fact that whole Switch will be probably far more expensive than handhelds released so far, therefore I wouldn't count that all/most buyers of handhelds will decide "automatically" to buy Switch as well.
And I'm guessing that I won't avoid irritation caused by some Switch exclusives (made by some third-party developers) which I would play, but definitelly not on Switch... So yeah, relase of this console will definitelly have impact on me as well, but not in the good way.
And I'm guessing that I won't avoid irritation caused by some Switch exclusives (made by some third-party developers) which I would play, but definitelly not on Switch... So yeah, relase of this console will definitelly have impact on me as well, but not in the good way.
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Gandos
A Kind of Magic
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From Slovenia
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Vainamoinen
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Registered: May 2010
From Germany
Posted October 22, 2016
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An interesting thing to aim for. We'll see if it works.
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fr33kSh0w2012
CyberFAGGOT 20 DOGSHITS!
Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted October 22, 2016
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Not dooming them, jk. They'll learn, as others did.
I hope!
Yep. From Zambia to Bulgaria, from Yemen to Guam. New kiddos on the bloco .P
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phaolo
Durik - Half-Orc
Registered: Dec 2013
From Italy
Posted October 22, 2016
Umm.. is such device (with cartridges?!) considered good nowadays, with all the mobile gaming around?
I can't imagine a positive reception if that hadn't been made by Nintendo..
I can't imagine a positive reception if that hadn't been made by Nintendo..
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tomimt
Optimum rat
Registered: May 2010
From Finland
Posted October 22, 2016
Personally I think it does looke like a pretty neat concept. The main question is if it will work as fluently as they show here. Nintendo might have something with this, if they really manage to tap both mobile Nintendo console players and the living room console players market with this one.
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted October 22, 2016
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That doesn't mean that there aren't necessarily benefits to having it on the TV. It's possible that the system increases clock speed and CUDA core usage whenever it's connected to the dock. Those huge vents at the top of the tablet have to be for something and I don't anticipate the device running that hot while it's running on battery.
Against the PS4 and Xbone though, I'd say the Switch can potentially have a hardware disadvantage along with the obvious third-party support disadvantage.
What does everyone think of cartridges? DS and 3DS backwards-compatability would be awesome, especially if they can up the frame-rates. Also seems like Nintendo is merging portable and home consoles with this one, so I now question a separate successor for the DS line.
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adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted October 22, 2016
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I like the idea of cartridges. I don't claim to understand all the ups and downs, but I believe load times are better with cartridges, and you can also save and patch directly to the cartridge. Plus they take less space and I would say are a little more durable than discs.
Someone said earlier backwards compatibility was going to be a no unfortunately (not sure if it was this thread or the other).
I'm not sure I'd like them to drop the DS line completely as I do love the potential of dual screens and touch screen.
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_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted October 22, 2016
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What third-party publishers are waiting for from Ninty is a platform that will dominate the market in the way that the PS4 is now.
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Cartridges - if well-designed - can be a superb solution though. One bus that the Sony missed with the Vita and its memory cards was the ability to download patches directly to a game cart - Nintendo could address this shortfall here. The Switch's cartridges will certainly need to be able to carry 32-64GB of data, plus maybe separate dedicated flash memory for patches and save data.
Ultimately, it boils down to how efficiently data can be transferred from the cartridge's flash memory to the console's RAM - cartridges worked in the past because there was very little data to shift around and the cartridges essentially served as part of the circuitry. Once plugged in, they were essentially already in memory. With modern architectures, those days are sadly over. We might see a noticeable drop in loading or installation times (especially in relation to the Wii U), but not significant advantages over games running from hard disk.
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lepke1979
New User
Registered: Mar 2015
From United States
Posted October 22, 2016
I think it looks good. Admittedly I have a bias toward Nintendo though. Still more likely to play something on my Wii than my XBox 360. However, I have a habit of getting consoles at near the end of their life. So won't be getting it anytime soon. For instance, got a Wii around when the WiiU came out. Trying to decide if I want a WiiU or not. But might just skip it and get the Switch in a couple years instead.
I'm curious to see what the battery life is like when not in the cradle though. One negative I see is it's height. Wouldn't fit in my media cabinet.
I'm curious to see what the battery life is like when not in the cradle though. One negative I see is it's height. Wouldn't fit in my media cabinet.
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted October 22, 2016
Yes, it seems backwards compatability is out of the window. I believe they said that in a Polygon interview? So no Wii / U or DS and 3DS games. IMO that brings up another problem, especially for Nintendo who haven't dealt with this very much, which is a possible drought of games on launch. Even the XBone and PS4 had issues with that, and they had 3rd party support.
@jam
It also makes it more important than ever for Nintendo to produce hardware to demand, as older Nintendo games will be locked out henceforth and I pray they understand the importance of keeping the WiiU in production. Nintendo seems to be utterly retarded when it comes to making enough accessories for their consoles (like undersupplied chargers, controllers and those amibos) so lets hope they don't similarly underestimate the importance of having Bayonetta and Smash machines in the market.
@adalia
I also read crats load faster and we know they're superior to scratchable disks. IMO the cartridges also signal another important thing; Nintendo's views on digital distribution. It would be great to see blank cartridges for sale which can hold a certain amount of games that may be downloaded off the digital store. It would mean infinite storage and a simple account-association system can make it work like GOG, where the cartridges are like GOG-installers.
Also, given the expensive nature of cartridges, I'd have guessed they would have analyzed DD more seriously and found out the truth that there is potential there. As consoles slip more and more away from the quick insert-and-play devices they were, a digital-only or hardware optional solution may be completely superior, IMO. Either way, they should at least have those games digitally available as well.
Another thing as well. If they can match the hardware, 3rd part support alone will make the console a winner since a 3rd party supported console with Nintendo exclusives is probably the best buy out of the 8th/9th gen consoles in the heads of most gamers (certainly is for me) .
@jam
It also makes it more important than ever for Nintendo to produce hardware to demand, as older Nintendo games will be locked out henceforth and I pray they understand the importance of keeping the WiiU in production. Nintendo seems to be utterly retarded when it comes to making enough accessories for their consoles (like undersupplied chargers, controllers and those amibos) so lets hope they don't similarly underestimate the importance of having Bayonetta and Smash machines in the market.
@adalia
I also read crats load faster and we know they're superior to scratchable disks. IMO the cartridges also signal another important thing; Nintendo's views on digital distribution. It would be great to see blank cartridges for sale which can hold a certain amount of games that may be downloaded off the digital store. It would mean infinite storage and a simple account-association system can make it work like GOG, where the cartridges are like GOG-installers.
Also, given the expensive nature of cartridges, I'd have guessed they would have analyzed DD more seriously and found out the truth that there is potential there. As consoles slip more and more away from the quick insert-and-play devices they were, a digital-only or hardware optional solution may be completely superior, IMO. Either way, they should at least have those games digitally available as well.
Another thing as well. If they can match the hardware, 3rd part support alone will make the console a winner since a 3rd party supported console with Nintendo exclusives is probably the best buy out of the 8th/9th gen consoles in the heads of most gamers (certainly is for me) .