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tfishell: snip

However, if Reddit is any indication of how many older gamers feel about these games, I think GOG really missed out on a chance to make some decent money through these games.
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HypersomniacLive: But did they? Skimming through the reddit page reveals that people are more than happy to get them on Steam - I spotted only one single post asking about a GOG release and it went answered.
What I meant was if GOG had gotten them first, they would have essentially been exclusives for the time being, and I think people would have flocked to GOG to buy them rather than Steam.

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tfishell: However, if Reddit is any indication of how many older gamers feel about these games, I think GOG really missed out on a chance to make some decent money through these games.
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tburger: Hmm...I think it is a good question for this Twitch.tv...?
Well, I think Turnipslayerr told me all he could, and anyone else I ask the question to I expect to get the "ol' runaround".
Post edited April 20, 2014 by tfishell
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AdamR: Googling the letters and numbers brought up the 1992 L.A. Riots... Any games based on that? :P
heh if that were REALLY the clue I'd guess Bad Day L.A.!
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/american-mcgee-presents-bad-day-la
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Fever_Discordia: heh if that were REALLY the clue I'd guess Bad Day L.A.!
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/american-mcgee-presents-bad-day-la
Oh boy, I'd rather go with Sudeki.
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Fever_Discordia: heh if that were REALLY the clue I'd guess Bad Day L.A.!
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/american-mcgee-presents-bad-day-la
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Grargar: Oh boy, I'd rather go with Sudeki.
personally, either would be fine by me
I think next week's release is going to be Ōllamaliztli. It's not a video game, but it's a classic. GOG will somehow manage to distribute bas-relief adorned stone circular hoops and hard solid rubber balls worldwide for people to play their Ōllamaliztli matches.

Enough with the indies, GOG, bring the classics back, goddammit! We need Ōllamaliztli, a TRUE Good Old Game. Which should shut the whiners up for a bit.
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groze: I think next week's release is going to be Ōllamaliztli. It's not a video game, but it's a classic. GOG will somehow manage to distribute bas-relief adorned stone circular hoops and hard solid rubber balls worldwide for people to play their Ōllamaliztli matches.

Enough with the indies, GOG, bring the classics back, goddammit! We need Ōllamaliztli, a TRUE Good Old Game. Which should shut the whiners up for a bit.
How the heck do you even pronounce that?
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groze: I think next week's release is going to be Ōllamaliztli. It's not a video game, but it's a classic. GOG will somehow manage to distribute bas-relief adorned stone circular hoops and hard solid rubber balls worldwide for people to play their Ōllamaliztli matches.

Enough with the indies, GOG, bring the classics back, goddammit! We need Ōllamaliztli, a TRUE Good Old Game. Which should shut the whiners up for a bit.
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Grargar: How the heck do you even pronounce that?
In Portuguese and Spanish we call it 'tlatchtli', which should be easier to pronounce, I guess. Ōllamaliztli would be the uncensored international DRM-free definitive edition.

[EDIT] It goes without saying, but obviously with flat worldwide "fair" pricing, so that US citizens have to pay more for it due to currency conversion, because unless it's an Australian or European paying more for games, it's all good.
Post edited April 20, 2014 by groze
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tfishell: What I meant was if GOG had gotten them first, they would have essentially been exclusives for the time being, and I think people would have flocked to GOG to buy them rather than Steam.

snip.
Ah, I see now.
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tfishell: What I meant was if GOG had gotten them first, they would have essentially been exclusives for the time being, and I think people would have flocked to GOG to buy them rather than Steam.

snip.
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HypersomniacLive: Ah, I see now.
I mean, obviously I could be wrong, but really you could say this about any beloved classics - more people will be excited to see them on Steam because more people use Steam. Look at System Shock 2, I Have No Mouth, etc.

It kind of brings up the question (or at least one I sometimes ponder), could GOG have gotten to where they are today by not having any exclusive titles?

EDIT: Polygon covered the re-release - maybe this adds a little credibility to what I was saying about popularity? http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/19/5631520/humongous-games-steam-pc-return
Post edited April 20, 2014 by tfishell
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Epitaph666: Sudeki's cover is really cool though (always loved huge japanese boobs).

Hope it's Hexen or (one hit wonder) STRIFE!
Strife would be excellent! ^_^
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tfishell: I mean, obviously I could be wrong, but really you could say this about any beloved classics - more people will be excited to see them on Steam because more people use Steam. Look at System Shock 2, I Have No Mouth, etc.

It kind of brings up the question (or at least one I sometimes ponder), could GOG have gotten to where they are today by not having any exclusive titles?
This is a good question, so good that I'd like it to be answered during the Twitch TV streaming event.
My guess would be that it would have probably taken GOG longer and more effort, and would have required for them to adopt some changes sooner.
Back when GOG started, Steam still had a good number of issues with its service and not all people were that eager to make the jump, at least not as their exclusive place to go for PC gaming; even without the exclusives, GOG would still have gotten a number of agreements first (given how even today, Steam is not actively after reviving classics), thus it would have had a decent chance to attract folks and get them to stay around, more so if GOG stepped up their game sooner than they did in terms of guaranteeing working versions, offering good support, providing a different update system and releasing newer titles.
This of course begs the question if they would have been in a financially sound enough state to do all these things sooner, I guess that if they were determined to stay around and grow, they would have made more sacrifices in terms of revenue and profit.

But since we can't turn back time, we won't ever know for sure.
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tfishell: Well, I think Turnipslayerr told me all he could, and anyone else I ask the question to I expect to get the "ol' runaround".
You're probably right...
Ah well - releasing those games on Steam is a reasonable decision from Tommo/Night Dive point of view - they will surely sell more copies there than here. On the other hand making those games Steam exclusives - would not be reasonable as they should sell them in as many places as they can. Maybe it will be Steam exclusive for a month (like SS2) and they will pop up here?

I just can't accept the scenario in which GOG reject those games at all.
Post edited April 20, 2014 by tburger
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tfishell: Well, I think Turnipslayerr told me all he could, and anyone else I ask the question to I expect to get the "ol' runaround".
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tburger: You're probably right...
Ah well - releasing those games on Steam is a reasonable decision from Tommo/Night Dive point of view - they will surely sell more copies there than here. On the other hand making those games Steam exclusives - would not be reasonable as they should sell them in as many places as they can. Maybe it will be Steam exclusive for a month (like SS2) and they will pop up here?

I just can't accept the scenario in which GOG reject those games at all.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, my slim hope is that GOG will bring them as bundle deals once all the games have been released on Steam. Steam has all the Spy Fox games for $20 (although 6.99 or 4.99 separately), so I'd like to think GOG could bring the 3 SF adventure games for 9.99 and the two arcade titles for 9.99.

But whatever happens, I'm going to let GOG do what they want and not complain too much, even though I doubt I'll agree with where their future leads and thus not be as active or supportive. This event has also been (another) wake-up call to worry about my own future and not a company that has its own people to keep it alive.

If what you have said about newer games is true, I have to wonder how GOG hopes to achieve that. If they can't bring various older games DRM-free, how do they expect to bring AAA newer games DRM-free? Or maybe it will be an avalanche of indie games?
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AdamR: Googling the letters and numbers brought up the 1992 L.A. Riots... Any games based on that? :P
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Fever_Discordia: heh if that were REALLY the clue I'd guess Bad Day L.A.!
GTA San Andreas also features them.
Fingers crossed for Hexen, own it on steam but would buy it on gog drm free for sure.