Posted April 22, 2016
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Tarm
MK III
Registered: Sep 2008
From Sweden
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§pec†re
Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted April 22, 2016
The N64 joystick was better because it used the same tech in ball mice.
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HunchBluntley
language geek
Registered: Jul 2014
From United States
Posted April 22, 2016
The stick was crap -- I had 3 different N64 controllers, and all of the sticks were terribly loose after just a year or two of use.
I suppose this experience could vary depending on which games one played, but if you ever played a Mario Party game, or Super Smash Bros., or any number of others, joystick abuse -- e.g., spinning it rapidly in a circle, or flipping it side-to-side as fast as possible -- was pretty much a requirement to do certain things within such a game (performing special moves, getting back up after being knocked down, etc.). What's worse, all that wear and tear could leave the joystick housing with tiny bits of plastic grit (ground off the "ball" of the stick during the aforementioned vigorous activity) stuck in there, potentially causing further abrasion, as well as causing performance problems and general annoyance when using the stick. (Fortunately, there were till some games in those days that didn't require the stick to be used much, if at all.)
It was a nice early try, but it was poorly-thought-out, and was easily surpassed by Sony's DualShock. (Though at least the 64's controller was less uncomfortable for long-term use than the Dreamcast controller.)
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I suppose this experience could vary depending on which games one played, but if you ever played a Mario Party game, or Super Smash Bros., or any number of others, joystick abuse -- e.g., spinning it rapidly in a circle, or flipping it side-to-side as fast as possible -- was pretty much a requirement to do certain things within such a game (performing special moves, getting back up after being knocked down, etc.). What's worse, all that wear and tear could leave the joystick housing with tiny bits of plastic grit (ground off the "ball" of the stick during the aforementioned vigorous activity) stuck in there, potentially causing further abrasion, as well as causing performance problems and general annoyance when using the stick. (Fortunately, there were till some games in those days that didn't require the stick to be used much, if at all.)
It was a nice early try, but it was poorly-thought-out, and was easily surpassed by Sony's DualShock. (Though at least the 64's controller was less uncomfortable for long-term use than the Dreamcast controller.)
EDIT: closed parenthesis
Post edited April 23, 2016 by HunchBluntley
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§pec†re
Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted April 22, 2016
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I suppose this experience could vary depending on which games one played, but if you ever played a Mario Party game, or Super Smash Bros., or any number of others, joystick abuse -- e.g., spinning it rapidly in a circle, or flipping it side-to-side as fast as possible -- was pretty much a requirement to do certain things within such a game (performing special moves, getting back up after being knocked down, etc.). What's worse, all that wear and tear could leave the joystick housing with tiny bits of plastic grit (ground off the "ball" of the stick during the aforementioned vigorous activity) stuck in there, potentially causing further abrasion, as well as causing performance problems and general annoyance when using the stick. (Fortunately, there were till some games in those days that didn't require the stick to be used much, if at all.
It was a nice early try, but it was poorly-thought-out, and was easily surpassed by Sony's DualShock. (Though at least the 64's controller was less uncomfortable for long-term use than the Dreamcast controller.)
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shoveling
Hokuto no yaoi
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted April 22, 2016
thanks obama...
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ScotchMonkey
60.27% Through!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Denmark
Posted April 22, 2016
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Sure, we aren't in the 90s anymore, but I still believe that any console exploitation exceeding 6 years is long.
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most console generations are between 4 to 6 years
it was sony who pushed for a decade life cycles
the ps 1 lasted from 1994 till 2004
the ps 2 from 2000 till 2014 for an eyebrow raising 14 years
the ps3 is 11 years old and still going
ms killed the 2001 xbox after 4 years
but the 360 lasted 11 years
It crapped itself after 3 and a half. This was the upgraded version too with the new chipset.
My Halo Reach version though is still going pretty strong. After it goes I'm not sure I'll stick with console games since B/C is still sketchy. Sure the Xbone has 100 games listed but they are not MY games.
Maybe I'll join the PC master race at last.
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snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted April 22, 2016
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most console generations are between 4 to 6 years
it was sony who pushed for a decade life cycles
the ps 1 lasted from 1994 till 2004
the ps 2 from 2000 till 2014 for an eyebrow raising 14 years
the ps3 is 11 years old and still going
ms killed the 2001 xbox after 4 years
but the 360 lasted 11 years
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It crapped itself after 3 and a half. This was the upgraded version too with the new chipset.
My Halo Reach version though is still going pretty strong. After it goes I'm not sure I'll stick with console games since B/C is still sketchy. Sure the Xbone has 100 games listed but they are not MY games.
Maybe I'll join the PC master race at last.
though i dont really like them i stack my consoles and the slim actually uses the vents on the top for active cooling
i nearly ended up frying my xbox slim and my ps3 because of that
i generally just get the original console instead of relying on its replacement for back wards compatibility
at least then i know it will work all the time
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ScotchMonkey
60.27% Through!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Denmark
Posted April 23, 2016
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It crapped itself after 3 and a half. This was the upgraded version too with the new chipset.
My Halo Reach version though is still going pretty strong. After it goes I'm not sure I'll stick with console games since B/C is still sketchy. Sure the Xbone has 100 games listed but they are not MY games.
Maybe I'll join the PC master race at last.
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/4077a1333538f88dec8edce2b936776e137c6d3b2d791e872072115a9b4f1fcb_avm.jpg)
though i dont really like them i stack my consoles and the slim actually uses the vents on the top for active cooling
i nearly ended up frying my xbox slim and my ps3 because of that
i generally just get the original console instead of relying on its replacement for back wards compatibility
at least then i know it will work all the time
We should just make one big console and have Mexico pay for it.
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snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted April 23, 2016
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though i dont really like them i stack my consoles and the slim actually uses the vents on the top for active cooling
i nearly ended up frying my xbox slim and my ps3 because of that
i generally just get the original console instead of relying on its replacement for back wards compatibility
at least then i know it will work all the time
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/37aa2f2f3a2d2c910c33f6b6bfbeed61569284c0bf23fc784940f10a9a707c0e_avm.jpg)
We should just make one big console and have Mexico pay for it.
that thing is about the size of a dvd box
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ScotchMonkey
60.27% Through!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Denmark
Posted April 23, 2016
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We should just make one big console and have Mexico pay for it.
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that thing is about the size of a dvd box
Its all such a pain in the ass. PC Master Race HO!
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snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted April 23, 2016
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Fairfox
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted April 23, 2016
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Post edited April 23, 2016 by Fairfox
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HunchBluntley
language geek
Registered: Jul 2014
From United States
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Fairfox
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted April 23, 2016
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sunshinecorp
Ordained Dudeist
Registered: Jul 2011
From Greece