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Posted January 01, 2016
This segment has a dramatic plot twist you won't see coming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcEsT5j1NM8
Posted January 01, 2016
I haven't watched more than about 25 hours total of WWE this year, though most weeks I skim Raw results to see if anything happened. Instead I've been watching stuff from NJPW, to TNA, to Lucha Underground to ROH. I even attended a few indie shows over the last year and had a blast!

Wrestle Kingdom 10 is in a few days and I plan to watch the whole thing from 2am when it starts here until its over.
Posted January 01, 2016
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timppu: Fake wrestling and MMA in the same thread? That's like discussing about the happenings of real war zones of the world, and Team Fortress 2 team battles. Sure there is shooting in both, but...

I've never really found fake wrestling interesting, but MMA yes. Oddly though, I started getting a bit uneasy watching MMA fights, some of them are just so brutal. That's especially odd because I trained some too (but didn't compete), then I started to get squeamish watching them.

Maybe I should try watching fake wrestling after all, at least I know it is fake...
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Emob78: Because a thread titled 'MMA/UFC/Pride/Kung-Fu/Karate/Kendo-but no pro wrestling because it's fake' was a bit long for a thread header.

Here's a quick mini doc on the beginning of UFC. Interesting to see the changes over the years.

Brutal beginnings of the UFC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuzImQo7cdg
The two, "professional wrestling" and mixed martial arts have no relationship whatsoever, hence some(myself included) being confused by the title of this thread. One is an acrobatic, atrocious form acting "entertainment", whilst the other is a competitive sport, governed by rules and regulations.
Posted January 01, 2016
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Emob78: Because a thread titled 'MMA/UFC/Pride/Kung-Fu/Karate/Kendo-but no pro wrestling because it's fake' was a bit long for a thread header.

Here's a quick mini doc on the beginning of UFC. Interesting to see the changes over the years.

Brutal beginnings of the UFC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuzImQo7cdg
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Tarnicus: The two, "professional wrestling" and mixed martial arts have no relationship whatsoever, hence some(myself included) being confused by the title of this thread. One is an acrobatic, atrocious form acting "entertainment", whilst the other is a competitive sport, governed by rules and regulations.
Just follow Brock Lesnar around. It'll all make sense eventually.
Posted January 01, 2016
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Emob78: Just follow Brock Lesnar around. It'll all make sense eventually.
Like following CM Punk's signing at UFC? Nope it doesn't make sense at all, and the modern iteration of wrestling and mixed martial arts share no relation other than their historic link to catch wrestling and shootfighting.

I cannot imagine anyone who has had any understanding of combat grouping the two together.
Posted January 01, 2016
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Emob78: Just follow Brock Lesnar around. It'll all make sense eventually.
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Tarnicus: Like following CM Punk's signing at UFC? Nope it doesn't make sense at all, and the modern iteration of wrestling and mixed martial arts share no relation other than their historic link to catch wrestling and shootfighting.

I cannot imagine anyone who has had any understanding of combat grouping the two together.
That's fine. You're also free to make your own thread with whatever subject you desire. Sky's the limit. This is my thread, and it makes perfect sense to me. So buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Posted January 01, 2016
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Tarnicus: Like following CM Punk's signing at UFC? Nope it doesn't make sense at all, and the modern iteration of wrestling and mixed martial arts share no relation other than their historic link to catch wrestling and shootfighting.

I cannot imagine anyone who has had any understanding of combat grouping the two together.
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Emob78: That's fine. You're also free to make your own thread with whatever subject you desire. Sky's the limit. This is my thread, and it makes perfect sense to me. So buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Oh there's plenty of rides to be enjoyed in wrestling. Take this killer move for example :P
Posted January 01, 2016
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Emob78: That's fine. You're also free to make your own thread with whatever subject you desire. Sky's the limit. This is my thread, and it makes perfect sense to me. So buckle up and enjoy the ride.
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Tarnicus: Oh there's plenty of rides to be enjoyed in wrestling. Take this killer move for example :P
Wow. He just hip tossed his opponent using his dick. Mighty impressive. Guy looks like a shrunken version of Rick Rude... a version of Rick Rude that has He-Man power in his penis. That guy is gonna go places.

And here's a great way to end the year, (one of) ECW's chair incidents. Kinda reminds of gog forum chats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxldOEOnzPA
Posted January 01, 2016
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Emob78: Wow. He just hip tossed his opponent using his dick. Mighty impressive. Guy looks like a shrunken version of Rick Rude... a version of Rick Rude that has He-Man power in his penis. That guy is gonna go places.

And here's a great way to end the year, (one of) ECW's chair incidents. Kinda reminds of gog forum chats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxldOEOnzPA
I know and I'm very upset that I was never taught this special move in any of the martial arts training I've had! Perhaps it falls under the category of "too dangerous to train" :D

That chair incident was far more than I was expecting! Darn it, you managed to get a chuckle out of me watching that. I need to practise maintaining a better defensive guard :P
Posted January 02, 2016
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Emob78: That's fine. You're also free to make your own thread with whatever subject you desire. Sky's the limit. This is my thread, and it makes perfect sense to me. So buckle up and enjoy the ride.
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Tarnicus: Oh there's plenty of rides to be enjoyed in wrestling. Take this killer move for example :P
Uh oh. It's escalating. Does that count as a combo move?

Joey Ryan flips 5 guys with his penis at the same time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQeV40fdcQA
Posted January 02, 2016
Oh, that would be bad to make it a WWE-only thread! There's so much more to enjoy in smaller promotions (although WWE became good again recently, at least for me, with the Wyatt family, Kevin Owens, etc...)!

Lookup for (in USA)
- CHIKARA
- PWG
- CZW (if you're more into really bloody wrestling)

or (in Japan)
- DDT (so that's where Joey Ryan got the magic schlong's techniques)
- Hustle
- Osaka pro
these three promotions being comedy-oriented
or the undying
- NOAH
- AJPW
- NJPW
and don't overlook Dragon Gate promotion, also in Japan!

Personnally, CHIKARA was by far my best promotion, WWE included, because of over-the-top-yet-very-good-at-wrestling characters, nice storylines andexcellent referees!
Posted January 02, 2016
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xa_chan: Oh, that would be bad to make it a WWE-only thread! There's so much more to enjoy in smaller promotions (although WWE became good again recently, at least for me, with the Wyatt family, Kevin Owens, etc...)!

Lookup for (in USA)
- CHIKARA
- PWG
- CZW (if you're more into really bloody wrestling)

or (in Japan)
- DDT (so that's where Joey Ryan got the magic schlong's techniques)
- Hustle
- Osaka pro
these three promotions being comedy-oriented
or the undying
- NOAH
- AJPW
- NJPW
and don't overlook Dragon Gate promotion, also in Japan!

Personnally, CHIKARA was by far my best promotion, WWE included, because of over-the-top-yet-very-good-at-wrestling characters, nice storylines andexcellent referees!
Don't forget the GFW. Though to be fair, I'm not entirely sure that the GFW exists beyond the imagination of Jeff Jarrett.
Posted January 02, 2016
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Tarnicus: Oh there's plenty of rides to be enjoyed in wrestling. Take this killer move for example :P
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Emob78: Uh oh. It's escalating. Does that count as a combo move?

Joey Ryan flips 5 guys with his penis at the same time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQeV40fdcQA
Thank you Emob78, you just showed me the purpose of this thread for myself - to watch that clip! Granted I did watch WWF/WWE/??? when I was child and my favourites was Andre the Giant. I was fascinated by difference, as most kids are, and someone with acromegaly("Jaws" from James Bond was another) was like seeing real magic!

Edit: intergender wrestling with lollipops shoved where the sun don't shine? This Joey Ryan guy takes his career very er seriously lol This is a softcore version of er "adult wrestling" that I've "read" about on the net lol
Post edited January 02, 2016 by Tarnicus
Posted January 02, 2016
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xa_chan: Oh, that would be bad to make it a WWE-only thread! There's so much more to enjoy in smaller promotions (although WWE became good again recently, at least for me, with the Wyatt family, Kevin Owens, etc...)!
*snip*
Japanese MMA/shoot-fighting/kickboxing organisations I've followed the past 17 years since I first became interested in MMA:

SHOOTO
RINGS
Pancrase
Pride
K-1
Rizin (did anyone watch Fedor's comeback fight? What a joke of a mismatch!)

USA

WEC
Strikeforce
UFC (all 3 owned by Zuffa now and consolidated to UFC, including Pride - big blow to MMA this acquisition)
Glory Kickboxing
Bellator
World Series of Fighting

Other

Cage Rage (UK)
M1 (Russia)
ONE Fighting (Singapore, shows in many parts of Asia)

Edit: added Bellator and WSOF. I need sleep to get my writing and comprehension skills reset :)
Post edited January 02, 2016 by Tarnicus
Posted January 02, 2016
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xa_chan: Oh, that would be bad to make it a WWE-only thread! There's so much more to enjoy in smaller promotions (although WWE became good again recently, at least for me, with the Wyatt family, Kevin Owens, etc...)!
*snip*
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Tarnicus: Japanese MMA/shoot-fighting/kickboxing organisations I've followed the past 17 years since I first became interested in MMA:

SHOOTO
RINGS
Pancrase
Pride
K-1
Rizin (did anyone watch Fedor's comeback fight? What a joke of a mismatch!)

USA

WEC
Strikeforce
UFC (all 3 owned by Zuffa now and consolidated to UFC, including Pride - big blow to MMA this acquisition)
Glory Kickboxing

Other

Cage Rage (UK)
M1 (Russia)
ONE Fighting (Singapore, shows in many parts of Asia)
I watched a lot of K-1 and Pride when they were on top of TV programs, but recently they have really faded away...
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