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reaver894: I enjoy it and also use it as a way to take 5 mins out and just relax.
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Wishbone: This is one aspect of smoking that non-smokers should really try to emulate. When working in a job that requires concentration and problem solving, going outside for 5 minutes every once in a while to get some fresh air and clear your mind is really beneficial to your productivity. I experience time and time again that I find the solution to some technical problem I'm dealing with while I'm outside having a smoke break. It's not the cigarette that does it, it's just leaving your desk and taking a breather. Most non-smokers are really bad at taking those short, frequent breaks, because there's nothing pushing them to do it. But they should, they really should.
Cant agree more, I work in customer service so after speaking to some of the retards we have in the UK if I didnt take that 5 mins out every now and again id get taken away in a padded van i think

Edit: My line of work might also explain why I can be a sarcastic prick sometimes come to think of it.
Post edited May 24, 2015 by reaver894
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snowkatt: i have family members who smoke
All my close family members have quit smoking by now. It seems there is still hope even if an individual has smoked for decades. :)
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fishbaits: As a non smoker, I never minded folk smoking in bars/clubs et al.
For some reason I can't stand cigarette smoke. I can't breathe if a person is smoking near me and I start feeling ill. :(
Post edited May 24, 2015 by 0Grapher
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reaver894: Cant agree more, I work in customer service so after speaking to some of the retards we have in the UK if I didnt take that 5 mins out every now and again id get taken away in a padded van i think

Edit: My line of work might also explain why I can be a sarcastic prick sometimes come to think of it.
You do know the NotAlwaysRight website, right? Otherwise, get your ass over there right now ;-)
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snowkatt: i have family members who smoke
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0Grapher: All my close family members have quit smoking by now. It seems there is still hope even if an individual has smoked for decades. :)
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fishbaits: As a non smoker, I never minded folk smoking in bars/clubs et al.
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0Grapher: For some reason I can't stand cigarette smoke. I can't breathe if a person is smoking near me and I start feeling ill. :(
Alas, growing up I had no option but to get used to it, with one parent smoking a pack a day & the other going through 60-80 cig`s a day.

Wondering, do you have Asthma? Sounds like something a mate went through before he found out, worth finding out.
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reaver894: Cant agree more, I work in customer service so after speaking to some of the retards we have in the UK if I didnt take that 5 mins out every now and again id get taken away in a padded van i think

Edit: My line of work might also explain why I can be a sarcastic prick sometimes come to think of it.
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Wishbone: You do know the NotAlwaysRight website, right? Otherwise, get your ass over there right now ;-)
Hehe, yup I know the site.
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fishbaits: Alas, growing up I had no option but to get used to it, with one parent smoking a pack a day & the other going through 60-80 cig`s a day.

Wondering, do you have Asthma? Sounds like something a mate went through before he found out, worth finding out.
I have absolutely no respect for parents that smoke when the child is around!!! D:

However, my mother was a smoker when I was a child and when she was smoking I had to keep a large distance from her -I don't see many other children do that. Later, she quit smoking, partly because of me.
There are things - such as cigarette smoke - that I simply couldn't get used to up to this point. It might very well be that I have a slight case of asthma but it's only cigarette smoke that I have a problem with.
Edit: I mean that only cigarette smoke has me slmost suffocating... Other smoke does cause that problem.
Post edited May 24, 2015 by 0Grapher
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fishbaits: Alas, growing up I had no option but to get used to it, with one parent smoking a pack a day & the other going through 60-80 cig`s a day.

Wondering, do you have Asthma? Sounds like something a mate went through before he found out, worth finding out.
me ? no
and i never said my parents smoke

its cousins and aunts and uncles i have that smoke
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0Grapher: All my close family members have quit smoking by now. It seems there is still hope even if an individual has smoked for decades. :)

For some reason I can't stand cigarette smoke. I can't breathe if a person is smoking near me and I start feeling ill. :(
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fishbaits: Alas, growing up I had no option but to get used to it, with one parent smoking a pack a day & the other going through 60-80 cig`s a day.

Wondering, do you have Asthma? Sounds like something a mate went through before he found out, worth finding out.
Isn't always the case but can be, personally I developed asthma about 3 years ago (never knew you could develop it) stopped smoking for 18 months and was having terrible problems with a chronic cough (i don't get the wheeze i get the cough and also am hypersensitive to the inhalers -.- ) went through a really stressful time and started smoking again, haven't felt better since well before my diagnosis. I know the long term effects will mess that up, but for the time being intil there is an alternative for my asthma or I move to vaping im happy smoking. But like I said, I enjoy it. As bad as it is I like it.
Some author I forgot wrote a column about e-cigarettes and smoking in one of the many newspapers we have. I don't remember much of it, but one thing is still stuck in my head (I think of it whenever I see someone smoking an e-cigarette). The author wrote about how smoking was "cool" a couple of years ago. You were a rebel and a cool guy when you were smoking. But today? All that's left of the former rebels, are outcasts who're hiding in a corner, sucking on a felt pen-like piece of plastic ;)

I stopped smoking.. uhm... five or six years ago!? I dont even remember^^ No e-cigarettes, no patches, no reducing, no nothing. I just stopped it 100% without any substitutes. I smoked 25-30 cigarettes a day and 40+ when I was drinking something with friends in a bar. The only "problem" I had was that I didn't know what to do when I had "nothing to do" (waiting for a bus, drinking coffee, hanging around with people, etc.). Days felt much longer for the first two weeks. And my lungs felt... empty. There was a little bastard sitting behind my chest, whispering "Suck, suck, suck, suck, suck!" whenever I was inhaling air oO But that was it. No nervousness or other signs of withdrawal...
I've used the vaping thing for more than a year, and coming from a background in molecular biology, it has to be mentioned that vaping is absurdly safe.

Anyway, I think it is better than tobacco, and for people who want to quit smoking it is a legitimate way to help them do so.

Can't recommend it enough, but be prepared to learn to maintain the vaping device, run out of battery at the worst moments, need a new coil at the worst moments, and so on.

But the benefits are worth the hassle, can't recommend it enough.
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Atlantico: I've used the vaping thing for more than a year, and coming from a background in molecular biology, it has to be mentioned that vaping is absurdly safe.

Anyway, I think it is better than tobacco, and for people who want to quit smoking it is a legitimate way to help them do so.

Can't recommend it enough, but be prepared to learn to maintain the vaping device, run out of battery at the worst moments, need a new coil at the worst moments, and so on.

But the benefits are worth the hassle, can't recommend it enough.
Ive studied psychology and the mechanics of addiction in post secondary and even conducted classes in harm reduction in the area of youth gambling.

Unlike the finger waging propagandist media that the government disseminates we actually engaged and educated the audience with examples of risk vs rewards and tying it all into Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

I see vaping as an effective tool to get what you crave without harming yourself with smoking tobacco.

That being said there is still concern about the effect of aerosolized PG.
Post edited May 24, 2015 by ScotchMonkey
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ScotchMonkey: Ive studied psychology and the mechanics of addiction in post secondary and even conducted classes in harm reduction in the area of youth gambling.

Unlike the finger waging propagandist media that the government disseminates we actually engaged and educated the audience with examples of risk vs rewards and tying it all into Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

I see vaping as an effective tool to get what you crave without harming yourself with smoking tobacco.
or haming others with second hand smoke for that matter

but there will always be finger wagging propagandists working on fear to further their own agenda
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Cavenagh: I feel 1000% better now, not caughing my guts up in the morning, does anyone else vape on here.
I have for like two years and I'm trying to quit, have only been taking two or three puffs a day lately, just enough so I won't go crazy when seriously stressed out. My health greatly improved after switching from cigarettes to e-cigarettes at first but at this point I'm experiencing other symptoms which get a bit weaker but don't go fully away when I put that shit away. Frankly I'm shitscared that e-cigarettes may have done even bigger harm to my body than regular cigarettes would have in the same time and want to get myself checked out very soon. Shortness of breath, chest pains, an irregular heartbeat, you name it. Seriously, just quit smoking and vaping altogether. It can't possibly be good but it can sure as hell be dangerous. And that's not including the (admittedly small) fire risk due to malfunctioning batteries.
How exactly are we enforcing the 18+ rule on this thread? :P
I have an e-cig but it's rather "low end." I don't know if they're all basically the same or not.

I really wanted to like it - it tastes good, no smoke, no smell... but when I inhale, it gives me a feeling in my chest I don't like - a sort of tightness that I don't experience with regular cigarettes, more akin to that feeling you get when smoking marijuana. And if I inhale the way I do with a regular cigarette, it makes me cough, which regular cigarettes don't do. I can take a really deep breath on a regular cigarette and not even feel it, but I do with the e-cig. The vapor, perhaps (and no, I'm not one of those people who think "Oh no, I'm sucking water into my lungs.")