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Remember that site VG/27, that got offended about that one time that one GOG employee made a Tweet of a Postal 2 Screenshot and had him fired? They are know on a crusade to "destroy gamers".

Rock Bottom Journalism - With Incentives - VG247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cm7_LTyf3s
It's like they're TRYING to be more disgusting with each new day.
I have nothing but contempt for the majority of videogame "journalists" nowadays and VG247 well they are easily one of the worst if not the worst one and lives of writing insulting articles about people they call "gamers" as if it's the only thing we do in our daily lives but hey, they can continue for all i care because with every new article they dig themselves deeper into ground and tanks credibility even more on the minus scale.

There is no need to lower yourself to their standards, in fact some of these journalists strike me as highly unstable if not outright psychotic lunatics, shame really what has happened to these outlets.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by ChrisGamer300
Videogame journalism has always been a very "special" thing... Since the very beginning of the gaming press, I'd say.
In the 80s there were already rumors that some journalists were bribed by the game publishers in order to inflate game reviews.

The entertaining video below covers the case of Renegade 3. One of gaming's greatest shames and a terrible way to kill a franchise, which previously had already produced 2 fantastic titles. Also focusing on how a broken and hideous game got marvelous press reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOYGAfmH8WI
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Yeshu: Remember that site VG/27, that got offended about that one time that one GOG employee made a Tweet
No, but thankfully they can always count on people like you, who will get offended about them getting offended to give them some publicity and remind me.

The Internet in a nutshell.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by Breja
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karnak1: Videogame journalism has always been a very "special" thing... Since the very beginning of the gaming press, I'd say.
In the 80s there were already rumors that some journalists were bribed by the game publishers in order to inflate game reviews.

The entertaining video below covers the case of Renegade 3. One of gaming's greatest shames and a terrible way to kill a franchise, which previously had already produced 2 fantastic titles. Also focusing on how a broken and hideous game got marvelous press reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOYGAfmH8WI
Reminds me of the Driver 3 review controversy.
As with all Internet-related nuisances, it's best to just ignore them I think. These sorts of problems do just disappear when you don't pay attention to them. Games Journalists (like YouTubers) thrive on creating and spreading drama.
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Karterii12: As with all Internet-related nuisances, it's best to just ignore them I think.
Unfortunately, they cannot be ignored, because the toxic ideologies they push are now very much the status quo for the how the vast majority of AA and AAA devs now pro-actively ruin their games in order to directly pander & conform to their toxic ideologies.

The latest & biggest example of that is "The Last of Us 2," but that one game is just a drop in the bucket compared to the countless others that also suffer from the exact same kind of thing and for the same exact reason.

So to ignore them is to let that ruination of modern games remain unchallenged, and thus it will always continue into the future until if & when gamers start rising up and challenging it en masse.

Game "journalists" & the toxic forum groups who share their toxic ideologies need to be strongly & rigorously opposed, not just 'ignored.' 'Ignoring them' is exactly why they are winning - and why the content of games is losing - and have been doing so for the past 10 years or so.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Karterii12: As with all Internet-related nuisances, it's best to just ignore them I think.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Unfortunately, they cannot be ignored, because the toxic ideologies they push are now very much the status quo for the how the vast majority of AA and AAA devs now pro-actively ruin their games in order to directly pander & conform to their toxic ideologies.

The latest & biggest example of that is "The Last of Us 2," but that one game is just a drop in the bucket compared to the countless others that also suffer from the exact same kind of thing and for the same exact reason.

So to ignore them is to let that ruination of modern games remain unchallenged, and thus it will always continue into the future until if & when gamers start rising up and challenging it en masse.

Game "journalists" & the toxic forum groups who share their toxic ideologies need to be strongly & rigorously opposed, not just 'ignored.' 'Ignoring them' is exactly why they are winning - and why the content of games is losing - and have been doing so for the past 10 years or so.
I have considered AAA games garbage for about 2 decades by now. At first I thought it was because I was rarely distracted by pretty graphics, voice acting and all that other stuff they put in when just throwing money at a poorly designed game to get people to think it was worth buying. Your comment however, makes me think my low opinion of AAA games may be do to something else, in part at least .
Game journos are absolute scumbags pieces of shits...... more news at 11.
Yeah I wish there would be less political "activism" in gaming and movies of today. Music, well, I don't care, keep singing about your alleged revolution or how Trump is great there.

Interesting how two highly-anticipated games, Cyberpunk 2077 and The Last Of Us 2, are quite on the different edges of this... discussion. Cyberpunk is still constantly under fire by the identity politics activists, while TLOU2 gameplay and story was leaked and seems kinda preachy and... odd. Something about a transgender person murdering the father and daughter of the previous game, all the bad guys are white Christian males (some right-wing Christians who are against gays and LGBTGHUEI people etc. etc.) Yeah ok, I wasn't buying that game anyway as I don't have a PS4.

It'll be interesting to see how those two games will succeed, and whether either of them will suffer in sales because of part of the potential customers hating the setting etc. At least CP2077 doesn't seem to pushing some specific political agenda, while TLOU2 does seem to.

Sexuality and identity politics should be kept out of games, unless there is a real reason for it to be in the game (like relationships and romance in games etc.). As I keep telling: I have no idea if Garrett in Thief games is straight or gay or fluid-gender... and I don't need to know. Being gay or straight doesn't affect your hiding abilities. Well, unless you dress up like Liberace or Elton John, I guess.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by timppu
Seeing a gaming magazine attack gamers I'm mostly curious about who their target demographic is. I mean, I've never seen a magazine dedicated to veteran cars claim "veteran car owners are idiots, come here and we'll tell you why".

Am I missing some brilliant 3D-chess here?
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timppu: Yeah I wish there would be less political "activism" in gaming and movies of today. Music, well, I don't care, keep singing about your alleged revolution or how Trump is great there.
That doesn't bother me per se... if the devs really want to bring some political point across. I mean games like Papers Please or This War of Mine are political. Most cyberpunk games are to some extend (since "punk" is), The Witcher (after the books), Bioshock, and certainly many more.

As long as the game is true to itself, the message is a valid part of the product and fits it - why not. If the game is too preachy, or it propagates some ideology I can't stand (ie. "white supremacy", or "real war is a fun adventure") I won't play it. But I see games as art, and art can do many things, including political things.

What I can't stand is tacked on, slimy virtue signalling. If you make a game with trans-person as the protagonist, it shouldn't be to show off how "diverse" you are, it should be because you want to tell a story about this special condition, show the world from their unique point of view.
If you want to make a game about "Trump making America great again", by all means do - but don't give me an off-the-mill strategy/economy games with tacked on Trump images and paroles, the game should be a "Trump Stomp" all the way (although I'm afraid this can only end in a caricature, intended or not). If you want to make a game about the victory of communism, the same applies. Show me what communism means for you, why I would want to win this game. Don't give me Heroes of Might and Magic with Lenin, revolutionaries and some red paint, thinking that "sells" it.
Selling your soul for a few klicks, that's beyond pathetic.
Spineless cockroaches being spineless cockroaches, sadly that is nothing new. :/

Edit:
I mean 'gaming journalists' as a whole, I'm not reffering to this article specifically.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by NuffCatnip
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DadJoke007: Seeing a gaming magazine attack gamers I'm mostly curious about who their target demographic is. I mean, I've never seen a magazine dedicated to veteran cars claim "veteran car owners are idiots, come here and we'll tell you why".

Am I missing some brilliant 3D-chess here?
Gamin journalist media became it's own sub group who seams to be mostly trying to become spokesmen for big publishers. The level of hostility to the people that actually buy and play games is just absurd.
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timppu: Yeah I wish there would be less political "activism" in gaming and movies of today. Music, well, I don't care, keep singing about your alleged revolution or how Trump is great there.
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toxicTom: That doesn't bother me per se... if the devs really want to bring some political point across. I mean games like Papers Please or This War of Mine are political. Most cyberpunk games are to some extend (since "punk" is), The Witcher (after the books), Bioshock, and certainly many more.

As long as the game is true to itself, the message is a valid part of the product and fits it - why not. If the game is too preachy, or it propagates some ideology I can't stand (ie. "white supremacy", or "real war is a fun adventure") I won't play it. But I see games as art, and art can do many things, including political things.

What I can't stand is tacked on, slimy virtue signalling. If you make a game with trans-person as the protagonist, it shouldn't be to show off how "diverse" you are, it should be because you want to tell a story about this special condition, show the world from their unique point of view.
If you want to make a game about "Trump making America great again", by all means do - but don't give me an off-the-mill strategy/economy games with tacked on Trump images and paroles, the game should be a "Trump Stomp" all the way (although I'm afraid this can only end in a caricature, intended or not). If you want to make a game about the victory of communism, the same applies. Show me what communism means for you, why I would want to win this game. Don't give me Heroes of Might and Magic with Lenin, revolutionaries and some red paint, thinking that "sells" it.
Those games are political in the sense that they tackle very broad political subjects (oppressive governments, civilians in war torn countries etc.) while most AAA games outright state "this good! this bad!" while using straw men characters.

As long as the game is true to itself, the message is a valid part of the product and fits it - why not. If the game is too preachy, or it propagates some ideology I can't stand (ie. "white supremacy", or "real war is a fun adventure") I won't play it. But I see games as art, and art can do many things, including political things.

What I can't stand is tacked on, slimy virtue signalling. If you make a game with trans-person as the protagonist, it shouldn't be to show off how "diverse" you are, it should be because you want to tell a story about this special condition, show the world from their unique point of view.
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Mr.Caine: All art is political in one way or another. It's hilarious you imply the difference between "slimy virtue signaling" and a meaningful handling of diversity,as if narrow minded [alt]right leaning gamers could ever handle any form of diversity and treating games as actual art. Anything that provokes sheltered white nerds is MUH BIASED POLITICAL AGENDA FOR DEM EVIL SJW
I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYMz8qMg-Q8

There is a difference between political discussion and propaganda.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by Yeshu