Posted March 29, 2020
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted March 29, 2020
Because putting someone at L-1 creates a risk of accidental or "accidental" hammer.
Because Carradice was already asked to claim.
Because it was 4-5 so there was a chance that zazak, whom I thought more scummy might become the wagon.
Because there was enough players online to make this unnecessary in this situation.
Because Carradice was already asked to claim.
Because it was 4-5 so there was a chance that zazak, whom I thought more scummy might become the wagon.
Because there was enough players online to make this unnecessary in this situation.
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted March 29, 2020
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Because Carradice was already asked to claim.
Because it was 4-5 so there was a chance that zazak, whom I thought more scummy might become the wagon.
Because there was enough players online to make this unnecessary in this situation.
According to you (and many others I believe) this accidental (or not) hammer situation might benefit anti-town players, so either gogtrial can't count even though I replied with my vote for Carradice included in bold (301) to which I get also reply (310) or it was done intentionally.
And since you are so experienced in this game could you please help me to understand how is it even a pro-town to shout about PR and Nuking, also cursing mafia and jokingly (of course) admit hating being a scum (post 109)
Gogtrial, can't say for the others but I don't feel comfortable so if you please comment on how you haven't seen my vote from previous reply and not double check for L-1 situation. Also you mentioned that SirPrimalform was pinged several hours before, yes, but why not just put him again in a latter post?
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vote Carradice
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gogtrial34987
Go for the eyes!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Netherlands
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted March 29, 2020
Editorial spirit possessed you afterall.
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gogtrial34987
Go for the eyes!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Netherlands
Posted March 29, 2020
*sigh* Ok, consciously slowing down with posting. I'm always way too trigger happy when there's a new day to dive into after two days of quietude.
Belated happy birthday to Joe, and happy birthday to SPF!
Belated happy birthday to Joe, and happy birthday to SPF!
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted March 29, 2020
He was Clear Rivers, a teen possessed by Alexie Gradie, Neutral Haunter.
(Modified Compulsive Visitor)
I will not specify the 'modified' bit further. But a little hint: read carefully! To haunt and to hunt are two different things.
A Visitor can visit someone. Compulsive means he has to do it each Night.
(Modified Compulsive Visitor)
I will not specify the 'modified' bit further. But a little hint: read carefully! To haunt and to hunt are two different things.
A Visitor can visit someone. Compulsive means he has to do it each Night.
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted March 29, 2020
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Interesting enough, that reply was another instance of you missing one of my actions, namely already pinging SPF earlier.
I guess it's possible that you're also an option for scum on Carradice's wagon after all, fearing it wouldn't take off on its own. Were you defending zazak with your vote?
So maybe using that line #300 was a good excuse for the accidental hammer, who knows.
I might subconsciously defending Zazak. To be honest I'm afraid of his active detective stuff. He mentioned that Carradice dismissed him agrressively before, the one after when he voted Zazak using cryptic code "I ABC...XYX" post (42) / then unvoted later (87). I wasn't able to find anything aggressive about that, but still Zazak initially put to scum: Microfish_1, Carradice, Trent, or ZFR (post 92). And I also find ZFR and Carradice behaviour a bit odd at that time.
SirPrimalform was also on my list and his posts are mostly logical and calm. However I tried to find any kind of at least slight mistrust between ZFR and SirPrimalform and come empty.
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted March 29, 2020
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However, at risk of doing another RedFireGaming, I'm thinking this derplears Cadaver. There is just no way scum!Cadaver would jump at me on his very post this Morning without a discussion with his teammate who'd have expalined this to him.
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted March 29, 2020
Dammit! You should know better! This is your first warning. Wait for more than 10 minutes before sending a subsequent post unless someone bumps you inbetween.
Since this seems to be a merge and not an intentional modkill-invitation (i.e. an edit), I will let you off with a warning. But the next merge may have dire consequences.
Since this seems to be a merge and not an intentional modkill-invitation (i.e. an edit), I will let you off with a warning. But the next merge may have dire consequences.
Post edited March 29, 2020 by Lifthrasil
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
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gogtrial34987
Go for the eyes!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Netherlands
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted March 29, 2020
EBWOP:
I'm looking at it right now. Yes, the post #300 was crucial. I haven't seen any mentioning of SirPrimalform pinging in that post (290, also see attached). And yes, I have seen you pinging SirPrimalform before (283). I just find it odd that you put Genocide, Trent and me, but not SirPrimalform in that post (290, and no SirPrimalform from (283).
So maybe using that line #300 was a good excuse for the accidental hammer situation, who knows.
I might subconsciously defending Zazak. To be honest I'm afraid of his active detective stuff. He mentioned that Carradice dismissed him agrressively before, the one after when he voted Zazak using cryptic code "I ABC...XYZ" post (42) / then unvoted later (87). I wasn't able to find anything aggressive about that, but still Zazak initially put to scum: Microfish_1, Carradice, Trent, or ZFR (post 92). And I also find ZFR and Carradice behaviour a bit odd at that time.
As mentioned before SirPrimalform is also on my list of suspects and his posts are mostly logical and calm. However I tried to find any kind of at least slight mistrust between ZFR and SirPrimalform but come up empty.
@All: What is "derpclear"?
I'm looking at it right now. Yes, the post #300 was crucial. I haven't seen any mentioning of SirPrimalform pinging in that post (290, also see attached). And yes, I have seen you pinging SirPrimalform before (283). I just find it odd that you put Genocide, Trent and me, but not SirPrimalform in that post (290, and no SirPrimalform from (283).
So maybe using that line #300 was a good excuse for the accidental hammer situation, who knows.
I might subconsciously defending Zazak. To be honest I'm afraid of his active detective stuff. He mentioned that Carradice dismissed him agrressively before, the one after when he voted Zazak using cryptic code "I ABC...XYZ" post (42) / then unvoted later (87). I wasn't able to find anything aggressive about that, but still Zazak initially put to scum: Microfish_1, Carradice, Trent, or ZFR (post 92). And I also find ZFR and Carradice behaviour a bit odd at that time.
As mentioned before SirPrimalform is also on my list of suspects and his posts are mostly logical and calm. However I tried to find any kind of at least slight mistrust between ZFR and SirPrimalform but come up empty.
@All: What is "derpclear"?
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted March 29, 2020
I don't know what a "modified watcher" is. Why do you ask? None of the flips contained that term.