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Posted October 16, 2016
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snowkatt: and not a one trick pony ?
hmmm lets see

diablo 1 a dungeon crawler grindfest
diablo 2 a dungeon crawler grindfest
diablo 3 hey guess what another dungeon crawler grind fest
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amok: 1 trick

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snowkatt: warcraft an rts
warcraft 2 an rts
warcraft 3 yet another rts
star craft oooh an rts
star craft 2 wow yet another rts
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amok: 2 tricks

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snowkatt: looks like a one trick pony to me
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amok: 2 tricks, so far

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snowkatt: but wait !
what about world of warcraft then ? an mmo ?
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amok: ah... 3 tricks

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snowkatt: still building on that warcraft setting and so does heartstone
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amok: 4th trick

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snowkatt: overwatch is the first truly new thing blizzard has done in decades but yeah not a one trick pony right ?
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amok: 5th trick.

So, by your count, Blizzard is at least a 5 trick pony
nope still a one trick pony or two at best
at least rockstar and nintendo diversify



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snowkatt: in other words when did EA turn to shit ?
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bela555: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you’re really not that price sensitive at that point in time'"

Around this time...
so fairly recently then

and they'd wrong if that happens to me id hurl my controller
pitch a fit
and either remove the game from my fucking HD or if its a console version return it right the fuck now
Post edited October 16, 2016 by snowkatt
Posted October 16, 2016
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snowkatt: never cared for blizzard
a one trick pony with bland boring grindy games
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Elenarie: Diablo 3 = 30+ million copies sold
Overwatch = 20+ million players in less than a year
Starcraft 2 = most successful RTS of all time
Hearthstone = most successful CCG of all time
Warcraft = most successful MMO of all time

Not a one trick pony, I'd say.
Under which standards is Starcraft 2 most succesfull RTS of all time?
Posted October 16, 2016
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snowkatt: nope still a one trick pony or two at best
at least rockstar and nintendo diversify
He just listed 5 completely different genres they've worked on.

You're just putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING!".
Posted October 17, 2016
Does anyone remember The Lost Vikings? Also a Blizzard game.
Posted October 17, 2016
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Elenarie: Diablo 3 = 30+ million copies sold
Overwatch = 20+ million players in less than a year
Starcraft 2 = most successful RTS of all time
Hearthstone = most successful CCG of all time
Warcraft = most successful MMO of all time

Not a one trick pony, I'd say.
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RottenRotz: Under which standards is Starcraft 2 most succesfull RTS of all time?
If the data cited on Wikipedia is to be trusted (and I'd love to see more accurate sales figures...maybe from NPD?), StarCraft has sold 11 million copies, and StarCraft 2: Wings of Liberty has sold 6 million copies. The next comparable games sales-wise are the original Populous and Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War, which have sold 4 million copies each. The original C&C and Red Alert both have sold 3 million copies.

Unless I (or someone else) can find better data, I'd take all of that with a grain of salt though.

Perhaps the other significant qualifier would be the current active playerbase, though I have no idea if anyone could get publicly available and comparable data among StarCraft vs. other major RTS franchises.
Posted October 17, 2016
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snowkatt: nope still a one trick pony or two at best
at least rockstar and nintendo diversify
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DaCostaBR: He just listed 5 completely different genres they've worked on.

You're just putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING!".
wait you mean the games i listed in the first place ?!
no way !

but hey the fact that blizzard mostly did dungeon crawling grind fests and rts games in more then 20 years
and overwatch is the first actual new genre they did since 2004 doesn tmatter right ?
Posted October 17, 2016
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snowkatt: wait you mean the games i listed in the first place ?!
no way !

but hey the fact that blizzard mostly did dungeon crawling grind fests and rts games in more then 20 years
and overwatch is the first actual new genre they did since 2004 doesn tmatter right ?
You're doing it again. You are conveniently forgetting WoW and Hearthstone.

You don't have to like Blizzard, there's plenty of reasons not to, but don't invent reasons that don't exist.
Posted October 17, 2016
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Elenarie: Starcraft 2 = most successful RTS of all time
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rampancy: Perhaps the other significant qualifier would be the current active playerbase, though I have no idea if anyone could get publicly available and comparable data among StarCraft vs. other major RTS franchises.
Age of Empires series (20 million sold)
Total War series (20 million sold)

Starcraft (1998) itself is the best selling RTS, but Starcraft 2 is not that successful.
Posted October 17, 2016
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zeogold: I don't believe you.
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snowkatt: they were actually decent once ;p
Ahem, the John Madden football games for the Genesis are a shining example.
Posted October 17, 2016
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DaCostaBR: You're doing it again. You are conveniently forgetting WoW and Hearthstone.

You don't have to like Blizzard, there's plenty of reasons not to, but don't invent reasons that don't exist.
Don't feed the Troll.
Posted October 17, 2016
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RottenRotz: Under which standards is Starcraft 2 most succesfull RTS of all time?
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rampancy: If the data cited on Wikipedia is to be trusted (and I'd love to see more accurate sales figures...maybe from NPD?), StarCraft has sold 11 million copies, and StarCraft 2: Wings of Liberty has sold 6 million copies. The next comparable games sales-wise are the original Populous and Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War, which have sold 4 million copies each. The original C&C and Red Alert both have sold 3 million copies.

Unless I (or someone else) can find better data, I'd take all of that with a grain of salt though.

Perhaps the other significant qualifier would be the current active playerbase, though I have no idea if anyone could get publicly available and comparable data among StarCraft vs. other major RTS franchises.
Im talking money,so I doubt SC2 is the most succesfull.If SC1 sold more,I dont see how current active playerbase is relevant
Posted October 17, 2016
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RottenRotz: Under which standards is Starcraft 2 most succesfull RTS of all time?
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rampancy: If the data cited on Wikipedia is to be trusted (and I'd love to see more accurate sales figures...maybe from NPD?), StarCraft has sold 11 million copies, and StarCraft 2: Wings of Liberty has sold 6 million copies. The next comparable games sales-wise are the original Populous and Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War, which have sold 4 million copies each. The original C&C and Red Alert both have sold 3 million copies.

Unless I (or someone else) can find better data, I'd take all of that with a grain of salt though.

Perhaps the other significant qualifier would be the current active playerbase, though I have no idea if anyone could get publicly available and comparable data among StarCraft vs. other major RTS franchises.
Start Craft 2 sold a fuck ton of copies in Asia, even though it tanked in the US and Europe.
Posted October 17, 2016
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RottenRotz: Im talking money,so I doubt SC2 is the most succesfull.If SC1 sold more,I dont see how current active playerbase is relevant
I'd say it could be very relevant as a game's long-term success could also be affected by the strength and size of its online playerbase, especially if we're talking about a game/genre marketing on the strength of its online multiplayer and online multiplayer community.
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rampancy: Perhaps the other significant qualifier would be the current active playerbase, though I have no idea if anyone could get publicly available and comparable data among StarCraft vs. other major RTS franchises.
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kbnrylaec: Age of Empires series (20 million sold)
Total War series (20 million sold)

Starcraft (1998) itself is the best selling RTS, but Starcraft 2 is not that successful.
Are you talking about individual titles though, or sales taken across the whole series? In the figures I found above I was comparing individual games only, though you could argue both ways if you were to take StarCraft 2's sales as a combination of WoL + HotS + LotV, or on an individual basis.
Post edited October 17, 2016 by rampancy
Posted October 17, 2016
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snowkatt: EA is seen these days as the evil empire ....
when did the slide downards began and we ended up with the monolithic monster we go now ?

in other words when did EA turn to shit ?
SecuRom 7, That is when it started to slide in my opinion.
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CARRiON.FLOWERS: Around 2007-2009 they actually took a lot of chances and devoted time to new IPs like Mass Effect, Dead Space, and Mirror's Edge.
They promoted those, they were made by other companies that they gobbled up to try and make themselves relevant again, IMHO
Post edited October 17, 2016 by clisair
Posted October 17, 2016
I think it's hard to say the exact year, because it differs from franchise to franchise. For NFS, I think it would be the year when they released NFS: Carbon, which was in 2006 if I am not mistaken.
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