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Posted May 10, 2017
Hm, GoG = Guardians of Galaxy?
Posted May 10, 2017
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Maxvorstadt: Hm, GoG = Guardians of Galaxy?
Guardians of (the) Gullible.
Posted May 10, 2017
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GoG = Galaxy or Galaxy (it's optional)
Posted May 10, 2017
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I honestly expect gog.com to be renamed galaxy.com as some point in the near-ish future.
Posted May 10, 2017
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Matruchus: The biggest problem and really only problem is that Galaxy will get downloaded with every offline installer (aka backup installer) and it will also start the install process automatically. Sure you can stop it in the settings. But why would you need it if you wan't to use offline instalers. Plus the unnecessary additional file size (150MB) especially when its clear that people who use download option from gog store use it explicitly in order not to use Galaxy.
It would be stupid to bundle the entire Galaxy package in the installers. They can bundle a small downloader (a couple of 100KB). Also it would be nice that if you once opted out, it would stay that way for all games.
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Breja: My problem is how GOG is going about it. I said it before. If they want to just give up on DRM-free, client optional policies... that's fine. I mean, not with me, I won't be on board for that, but I know that that's their prerogative. But they should do so clearly and openly, not slowly encroaching on their old user base, circoumventing their own promises and sputing obviously bullshit marketing speak. I know it might be a silly thing to expect in business today, but GOG could choose to have some dignity and treat the customers that made them a success in the first place with enough respect to be upfront about their policies.
100% agree with you, Breja. But it doesn't appear that this is the way they're going to go..
Posted May 10, 2017
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mechmouse: Been here over 4 years, heavily active on this forum and a serious proponent for GoG and DRM free gaming.

And I happily use galaxy.

Do I think GoG have made a mistake in bundling Galaxy with the offline installers? Yes,big time.

But I most definitely don't think its an attempt to sneak Galaxy onto those that don't want to use it. They're simply trying to make it easier for the migrating users from the other platforms that have only experienced client based gaming.

GoG need to readdress the issue.
^100% THIS ^

Been a longtime GOG customer and also a happy Galaxy user. Yet I too agree that Galaxy should not be a part of GOG installers.
Specially because I need the offline installers in order to install the games to my netless laptop.
Posted May 10, 2017
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Breja: My problem is how GOG is going about it. I said it before. If they want to just give up on DRM-free, client optional policies... that's fine. I mean, not with me, I won't be on board for that, but I know that that's their prerogative. But they should do so clearly and openly, not slowly encroaching on their old user base, circoumventing their own promises and sputing obviously bullshit marketing speak.
Well they did clearly and openly inform peoples, nearly a week beforehand, that the new offline installer would include an option to install Galaxy. You might no like having to click on an extra check box at every install (and honestly I share mechmouse opinion that they could have handled that before especially knowing how over-sensitive peoples are on the matter) but you cannot say that they did it "sneakily" or tried to hide it.

They could perfectly have added the Galaxy install option on all installers without telling anybody.
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karnak1: ^100% THIS ^

Been a longtime GOG customer and also a happy Galaxy user. Yet I too agree that Galaxy should not be a part of GOG installers.
Specially because I need the offline installers in order to install the games to my netless laptop.
I think the majority of complaints are directed toward the method GOG is using and not the fact that Galaxy will be included in the installers. Yes, for some the added size will be a concern, as they have limited bandwidth. And it's still a choice that you can opt out of (so there's no issue for your netless laptop). No, it's the fact that you have to choose to opt-out of installing Galaxy if it's included in the installer.

This is negative marketing (NO, I don't want your software) as opposed to positive (YES, please). And it's an insidious practice designed to capture the unwary by having them install your software unintentionally.

GOG's line is many people aren't all that tech-savvy, so asking them to tick a checkbox is too much for them to figure out on their own - but they can apparently figure out how to navigate to the site, create an account, purchase a game, navigate to their library, and click the links to get the game installer in the first place. But they can't figure out how to check 'Yes, I'd like to install Galaxy' when they fire up the installer. So, these poor tech-befuddled folk need to have that box ticked 'yes' by default.

Now, are you picking up what GOG's laying down here? I know I'm not.
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Breja: My problem is how GOG is going about it. I said it before. If they want to just give up on DRM-free, client optional policies... that's fine. I mean, not with me, I won't be on board for that, but I know that that's their prerogative. But they should do so clearly and openly, not slowly encroaching on their old user base, circoumventing their own promises and sputing obviously bullshit marketing speak.
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Gersen: Well they did clearly and openly inform peoples, nearly a week beforehand, that the new offline installer would include an option to install Galaxy. You might no like having to click on an extra check box at every install (and honestly I share mechmouse opinion that they could have handled that before especially knowing how over-sensitive peoples are on the matter) but you cannot say that they did it "sneakily" or tried to hide it.

They could perfectly have added the Galaxy install option on all installers without telling anybody.
Yeah, they clearly informed the people who happen to visit the forum in a thread that isn't even a sticky, about forcing us download Galaxy with our games, pushing their client in the guise of doing it for the conveniece of those users who don't use offline installers in the first place. Truly, the model of honest, respectful treatment of your user base. Give me a break.
Posted May 10, 2017
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Gersen: Well they did clearly and openly inform peoples, nearly a week beforehand, that the new offline installer would include an option to install Galaxy. You might no like having to click on an extra check box at every install (and honestly I share mechmouse opinion that they could have handled that before especially knowing how over-sensitive peoples are on the matter) but you cannot say that they did it "sneakily" or tried to hide it.

They could perfectly have added the Galaxy install option on all installers without telling anybody.
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Breja: Yeah, they clearly informed the people who happen to visit the forum in a thread that isn't even a sticky, about forcing us download Galaxy with our games, pushing their client in the guise of doing it for the conveniece of those users who don't use offline installers in the first place. Truly, the model of honest, respectful treatment of your user base. Give me a break.
Yeah I had honestly no idea they were going to do this until I seen Fables post as I often take breaks from the forums.
Posted May 10, 2017
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I don't get it: what actually happened? GOG included OPTION to DOWNLOAD and INSTALL Galaxy in the game installer? Totally optional and not required to play the game? Uncheck it in the installer and everything is fine. Where is the problem? Or you install all games just be repeatedly clicking Next button without reading what installer says to you? If so, then you are doing it wrong because there might be important information like choosing what components you want installed. :)

And I started playing game on home PC in early 90s. It is time, when you HAD to edit autoexec.bat and config.sys manually, to launch the game with sound or launch it at all! And now, the same people who says that they liked old games back then (whan you sometimes had to adjust your MS-DOS in addition to installing any game) can't uncheck ONE option in the installer?!?!?! What happened to you?!
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Posted May 10, 2017
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Breja: Yeah, they clearly informed the people who happen to visit the forum in a thread that isn't even a sticky, about forcing us download Galaxy with our games, pushing their client in the guise of doing it for the conveniece of those users who don't use offline installers in the first place. Truly, the model of honest, respectful treatment of your user base. Give me a break.
What do you want them to do ? Make a press release or a worldwide TV spot ?

You might not like what they are doing, and like I said I am no huge fan of it either, but you cannot say that they tried to hide it or didn't inform peoples beforehand.
Posted May 10, 2017
The persecution complex some of you guys have with this is baffling.
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Breja: Yeah, they clearly informed the people who happen to visit the forum in a thread that isn't even a sticky, about forcing us download Galaxy with our games, pushing their client in the guise of doing it for the conveniece of those users who don't use offline installers in the first place. Truly, the model of honest, respectful treatment of your user base. Give me a break.
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Gersen: What do you want them to do ? Make a press release or a worldwide TV spot ?

You might not like what they are doing, and like I said I am no huge fan of it either, but you cannot say that they tried to hide it or didn't inform peoples beforehand.
Front page announcement, or is that too much work?
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