Posted November 18, 2015

Mr. D™
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Registered: Mar 2014
From Germany

Brasas
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Registered: Dec 2010
From Poland
Posted November 18, 2015

But even if you were 100% correct. Do you think the fact two of her sons died a few days ago, might, you know... cloud her judgement a tad?

Crosmando
chrono commando
Registered: Jan 2012
From Australia
Posted November 18, 2015


But even if you were 100% correct. Do you think the fact two of her sons died a few days ago, might, you know... cloud her judgement a tad?
The fact that her son become a radical terrorist and a murderer is already a pretty huge indictment on her as a parent, just like the Boston bomber's mother was just as radical as her sons.
Would not be surprised at the least if she turns out to be another Islamist with jihadist sympathies.
I honestly find it quite confusing why you Europeans keep letting immigrants into your countries who then end up killing your own people.
Post edited November 18, 2015 by Crosmando

KiNgBrAdLeY7
Слава России! ура́
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
Posted November 18, 2015
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Who said slavery got banned? Today, it wears the mask of philanthropy, globalization and multiculturalism. All while left wing crackpot-smokers think your radical terrorist and prison escapee is a good, wronged, kind soul to be hugged. Or that because they themselves don't believe in any religion, they think they can convert die-hard, hardcore zealots full of fanaticism, into humanitarianism and atheism.
Someone so stupid as to mistake a deadly enemy for a dear friend, is a danger not only to themselves, but to everyone else around them, also.
Post edited November 18, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7

Brasas
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Registered: Dec 2010
From Poland
Posted November 18, 2015

He blew himself up with the intent of killing others, that is murder.
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Why would she be upset at the death of murderers and terrorists, whoever they were?
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And you're a hoot really... I have no idea how old you are, but your assumption that all humans should follow Brutus' example is incredible to me. 0_o
Let me be clear, I have no issue that you are, or believe you are such. I myself aspire to a stoic philosophy of living. But that you seem to believe everyone is, not just should be like that...

Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
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Posted November 18, 2015
A fight in this thread? No shit. :P

Brasas
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From Poland

Bad Hair Day
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Brasas
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From Poland

Vythonaut
Per aspera ad astra
Registered: Jun 2014
From Greece

Crosmando
chrono commando
Registered: Jan 2012
From Australia
Posted November 18, 2015

Does your "stoic philosophy" include self-defense?

Brasas
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Registered: Dec 2010
From Poland
Posted November 18, 2015
It does, and more even. But don't try to change the subject please.
You are arguing that the mother "doesn't give a shit about the dead" and should "condemn ... the attacks in the strongest terms". I merely said she might have done either but the journalist may not have published it. And even if she did neither - given two of her sons have died - she might have had other stuff on her mind. Like, you know, grief. An emotion you seem to not believe is possible when your relative is a criminal. So let's be clear please, because what you believe she should do isn't actually the point. Do you admit it is possible she does give a shit or has condemned her sons or is distraught, and you just don't know about it?
Then the other point we are arguing is whether one of her sons (not the other) is or not a murderer. The facts described in the article you posted indicate the only casualty of one her sons's explosion was himself. So objectively no murder occurred. You then shifted the goalpoasts to murderous intent, so a charge of attempted murder. I'll also further muddy the waters and point out known facts regarding another bomber - the first of all at Stade the France. On the very first news I read the security guys that detected the explosive belt described that the bomber moved away from them before detonating. A passerby died anyway, but doesn't this action strike you as somewhat odd for someone with indiscriminate murderous intent?
So the question to you is. How can you be so sure about the murderous intent of her son, particularly considering he was the only casualty of his detonation?
Reality is not as black nor white as you believe mate.
You are arguing that the mother "doesn't give a shit about the dead" and should "condemn ... the attacks in the strongest terms". I merely said she might have done either but the journalist may not have published it. And even if she did neither - given two of her sons have died - she might have had other stuff on her mind. Like, you know, grief. An emotion you seem to not believe is possible when your relative is a criminal. So let's be clear please, because what you believe she should do isn't actually the point. Do you admit it is possible she does give a shit or has condemned her sons or is distraught, and you just don't know about it?
Then the other point we are arguing is whether one of her sons (not the other) is or not a murderer. The facts described in the article you posted indicate the only casualty of one her sons's explosion was himself. So objectively no murder occurred. You then shifted the goalpoasts to murderous intent, so a charge of attempted murder. I'll also further muddy the waters and point out known facts regarding another bomber - the first of all at Stade the France. On the very first news I read the security guys that detected the explosive belt described that the bomber moved away from them before detonating. A passerby died anyway, but doesn't this action strike you as somewhat odd for someone with indiscriminate murderous intent?
So the question to you is. How can you be so sure about the murderous intent of her son, particularly considering he was the only casualty of his detonation?
Reality is not as black nor white as you believe mate.

Turjake
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Finland

Titanium
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Registered: Nov 2008
From Slovenia
Posted November 18, 2015

Europe is destroying itself. As a European, it kinda sucks. :/
Post edited November 18, 2015 by Titanium

Bad Hair Day
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